The End of the World

Here is an example of a Giant as historically depicted in an ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic:

A3_Hydra_Full.jpg


[Note: The giant is located in the lower part of the image (centered). The giant also appears to have a *****]
 
You clearly don't know much about Mayans.

And neither do you, they're such a big deal because they were very smart for their time, we do actually have much better science, astronomy, mathematics, etc. now.

TBadora said:
[**** about giants]

You are kidding, right?
 
And neither do you, they're such a big deal because they were very smart for their time, we do actually have much better science, astronomy, mathematics, etc. now.



You are kidding, right?

Whether we have better astronomy than the Mayans is still a mystery for the most part, because it is difficult to confirm something without being sure about what you know in the first place. We use devices and instruments to find astronomical bodies, whereas they didn't (as far as we know). A lot of the things we've recently observed in the cosmos, the Mayans had recorded long ago. Whether our mathematics system is better is only assumed, as their number system is still not fully understood today. Complex calculations that would be considered staggering today, were solved by the Mayans accurately, without using some of todays modern algorithms. They never used fractions! They appeared to have an excellent grasp of physics, long before the dawn of Newtonian physics. They obviously knew thing we don't! Their Calender was waay more accurate than ours is now. Their Calender system was so detailed and complex that it even took into account the slight pole-shifting of our planet (it even took into account unpredictable future pole-shifts). It also took into account where our planet is in the galaxy! (something that we are still struggling with, to an extent). Among others, the Mayan's had such a detailed knowledge about our planet with respect to space, that they are known to be able to accurately extrapolate future planetary occurrences like floods. This is one of the reasons why their prediction of disaster in 2012 is so significant. Obviously, stating that they are a big deal because they are 'smart or their time' is an understatement, as many civilizations before them can be considered 'smart for their time' but are not held as significant as the Mayan civilization. We have yet to find out how the Mayans managed to accomplish tasks that are still difficult to grasp. Whatever they knew, we currently don't. So yeah, you obviously don't know what you are talking about, so please don't pretend to know.

And I have no idea where you got that second quote from.

I have no idea why your ignorance concerned me so much as to invoke me to go into so much detail in explaining how wrong you were. Consider yourself lucky for the added knowledge :oldrazz:
 
The world will end before the Sun goes all red

I'm thinking around 30,000,000 years or something like that
 
Corinthian™;13182962 said:
The world will end before the Sun goes all red

I'm thinking around 30,000,000 years or something like that


But I heard that it was going to end Dec 21st 2012!?!?!?

Now I'm sad, I didn't want to buy any Christmas presents that year. :csad:
 
Whether we have better astronomy than the Mayans is still a mystery for the most part, because it is difficult to confirm something without being sure about what you know in the first place. We use devices and instruments to find astronomical bodies, whereas they didn't (as far as we know). A lot of the things we've recently observed in the cosmos, the Mayans had recorded long ago. Whether our mathematics system is better is only assumed, as their number system is still not fully understood today. Complex calculations that would be considered staggering today, were solved by the Mayans accurately, without using some of todays modern algorithms. They never used fractions! They appeared to have an excellent grasp of physics, long before the dawn of Newtonian physics. They obviously knew thing we don't! Their Calender was waay more accurate than ours is now. Their Calender system was so detailed and complex that it even took into account the slight pole-shifting of our planet (it even took into account unpredictable future pole-shifts). It also took into account where our planet is in the galaxy! (something that we are still struggling with, to an extent). Among others, the Mayan's had such a detailed knowledge about our planet with respect to space, that they are known to be able to accurately extrapolate future planetary occurrences like floods. This is one of the reasons why their prediction of disaster in 2012 is so significant. Obviously, stating that they are a big deal because they are 'smart or their time' is an understatement, as many civilizations before them can be considered 'smart for their time' but are not held as significant as the Mayan civilization. We have yet to find out how the Mayans managed to accomplish tasks that are still difficult to grasp. Whatever they knew, we currently don't. So yeah, you obviously don't know what you are talking about, so please don't pretend to know.

And I have no idea where you got that second quote from.

I have no idea why your ignorance concerned me so much as to invoke me to go into so much detail in explaining how wrong you were. Consider yourself lucky for the added knowledge :oldrazz:

So did they predict a flood for 2012?
 
The World will never be brought to ruin or be destroyed. But the people that are ruining the Earth by War, Pollution, ect. will be destroyed.

Revelation 11:18

- But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time for the dead to be judged, and to give [their] reward to your slaves the prophets and to the holy ones and to those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.”
 
Yes. Some scholars believe so. To the extent where the globe will be all water. Ever seen Waterworld?. A lot like that.

Even though i completely disagree...I think a Waterworld would be fun.

But only if Kevin Costner is there
 
Yes. Some scholars believe so. To the extent where the globe will be all water. Ever seen Waterworld?. A lot like that.
I don't think there's enough water on earth to do that, even if every glacier melted completely and all under-ground water sources came to the surface. Water is gradually added to our planet (from space, actually), but not quickly enough to cause that sort of flooding, and certainly not by 2012. It's a ridiculous theory.

Besides, some organisms would survive, which leads us right back to the definition of the, "end of the world." Is it when:

A) Mankind disappears?
B) When all life on earth disappears?
C) When the world is physically destroyed?

We don't know the significance of the end of the calendar, if there even is any.
 
Yes. Some scholars believe so. To the extent where the globe will be all water. Ever seen Waterworld?. A lot like that.
Oh no
Were all doomed to a hamy performance and stiff dialogue.
Leather pants that never have a chance to dry=fallout
 
The World will never be brought to ruin or be destroyed. But the people that are ruining the Earth by War, Pollution, ect. will be destroyed.

Revelation 11:18

- But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time for the dead to be judged, and to give [their] reward to your slaves the prophets and to the holy ones and to those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth

That would make sence,humanity is destroyed.So animals can reclaim the planet,they were around before humans came about..and will remain when humans are gone.

Giants?I belive they existed in the past...
 
The world will come to an end. That is fact. However, nobody knows when this will occur, although, certain governments are doing their damn best to hasten the process.
 
That would make sence,humanity is destroyed.So animals can reclaim the planet,they were around before humans came about..and will remain when humans are gone.

Giants?I belive they existed in the past...

No..you misread what the scripture says. It said to bring to end those ruining the earth, it did not say all of humanity.

There will always be humans on Earth
 
Did anybody take a second to look at the image I posted at the top of this page. Take a good look at the chamber where the giant is on the lower section. It's really interesting. It looks as though they are breeding humans, or cloning.
 
And I have no idea where you got that second quote from.

I have no idea why your ignorance concerned me so much as to invoke me to go into so much detail in explaining how wrong you were. Consider yourself lucky for the added knowledge :oldrazz:

I have no idea where you got the idea that the Mayans had all that knowledge, and I don't want to get into it. But I was saying you have to be kidding in that you think giants are real (and apparently cloning people now).
 
Maybe scientists will accidentally create a man-made blackhole and suck our planet into itself, lol.
 
I have no idea where you got the idea that the Mayans had all that knowledge, and I don't want to get into it. But I was saying you have to be kidding in that you think giants are real (and apparently cloning people now).


Dude, you already got served. And now you are gonna provoke another one from him? Take it like a man and walk it off. Who cares who believes what.
 
Dude, you already got served. And now you are gonna provoke another one from him? Take it like a man and walk it off. Who cares who believes what.

How did I get served? He made a series of statements that, being as lenient as possible, are only debatable, with no back-up at all. That's not exactly a "serving", which by the way is a phrase I didn't think anyone actually used without irony. All that aside, I wasn't even looking for an argument or anything, I was asking about his belief in giants.
 
I don't believe Giants currently exist. I believe there is evidence that points to the direction that they had existed in the past. But you probably wouldn't want me to go into that one either, because there is nothing I can show or write to convince you of anything, is there?
The cloning thing was a speculation based on the illustration, go back and read it again.
 
I believe that giants may have been a possibility but there isnt enough evidence to support that .
 
No honestly I thought that one, even if I didn't think you were right, is really interesting as giants are a really important motif in folk culture all over the world. It's a part of pretty much every culture's mythology.

It's just the Mayan calendar thing either ends up being just raw speculation about their math with no solid answers, or crazy "Flying Magic Atlantean Aliens building the Pymaids" type theories. Either way there's not much raw evidence you can show and it's not as interesting to talk about.
 
If you really want to learn about it: Watch some documentaries on the subject on youtube. Tomorrow, go to your library and read some books about it. People spend many years of their lives researching this stuff and it really isn't fair for an 'average joe' to just sit back and write it all off as 'crazy' without having and solid understanding about the subject. If you aren't interested in the subject than don't talk about it as if you know stuff on it.
 
Maybe scientists will accidentally create a man-made blackhole and suck our planet into itself, lol.

No, really -- you just don't want to know this. There’s a remote, but extremely terrifying possibility our planet is about to be swallowed from within by a man-made black hole. In fact, our planet could be booby trapped with baby black holes already.

It is one weird way to go. One moment, you’re here. And the next -- you’re not. It will be sudden, and dramatic. Within seconds, the planet, with everything and everyone on it, is reduced to nothingness. Or actually: it is squeezed together into a tiny black hole, no more than 9 millimeters wide.

If you were to play back the tape of what went wrong very slowly, you would see something very peculiar. Suddenly, you would see the Earth deform. Obviously, not a very good sign. Our planet is flattened out to become a disk. Beams of radiation shoot up from where the poles used to be. And then, zzzp, the planet’s gone. Just like that. Within a split second, it would simply vanish, right before your eyes.

Understandably, on board the International Space Station, this will cause some confusion, to say the very least. Astronauts will be stunned to find that their space ship suddenly no longer orbits a planet -- but, well, nothing much really. The only thing that is out there, is a tiny black spot, invisible to the eye. Still, the speck has the same mass as the Earth. For the time being, the Space Station will remain in orbit, just like the Moon and the satellites. A very silly thing to see, of course.

Perhaps some astronauts will realize what has happened. They might recall how back in the early 21st century, physicists tried to create baby black holes in the lab. And now, many years later... Well, the black holes obviously did show up, after all.

Let's build a hole: The science of DIY black holes

Luckily, the chances of the disaster outlined above really happening should be vanishingly small. But: some risk is there all the same.
There goes the Earth...

First, you should know that in principle, making a black hole is easy. Basically, the only thing you need to do is to slam two tiny, subatomic particles together in a particle accelerator. If you use enough force, the collision should yield a tiny black hole. (To find out what a black hole is, read our section on black holes from space).

Until recently, most scientists believed creating baby black holes couldn’t be done on our planet. You would need a particle accelerator as big as the solar system, most scientists assumed. But nowadays, that's all changed. Quite a lot of physicists think a much smaller particle accelerator can do the trick, too. Such as the ‘Large Hadron Collider’ (LHC), a particle smasher to be opened in Switserland in 2007.

Luckily, a man-made black hole won’t be a roaring monster that gobbles up planets and stars. Rather, science expects an incredibly tiny baby black hole, much smaller than an atom. What's more, it should evaporate immediately. Black holes give off radiation. And our black hole would be so incredibly small and hot, it would radiate itself away in less than 0,00000000000000000000000001 seconds! That’s why physicists feel pretty confident about working with the LHC. No problem if a black hole shows up. According to the laws of physics, black holes from the lab just shouldn’t be stable.

BUT. There is always a small possibility that the predictions are wrong. Particle accelerators are there to break new ground -- to explore new physics. And the physics science is about to explore, is really new and exotic. Nobody has ever seen a mini black hole. In fact, no one has even the faintest idea how gravity works on very small objects.

So, it’s 2007, and science switches on its LHC. According to some calculations, this super particle accelerator could summon up one black hole every second! There they are: black hole, black hole, black hole; Pop! Pop! Pop! Now suppose that against all expectations, these baby black holes aren’t the fleeting, unstable mini monsters we expect them to be. Suppose they’re stable.

At first, no one would notice. They wouldn’t eat up the lab or something. Instead, they would escape. One by one, the baby black holes would leak away from the lab, going through concrete walls as if they didn’t exist. If you’re that small, traveling through solid objects is no problem: you just rarely bump into a molecule.

And then? Slowly, our refugee black holes would begin to sink towards the center of the Earth, attracted by gravity. And there, they would sit and wait.

But sooner or later, a hole will indeed bump into an obstacle. An electron, or an atom’s nucleus -- tiny stuff like that. The black hole will swallow whatever it encounters. This will make it heavier. It will have more gravity, and pull in some more particles. It will get heavier still. And suck in more and more matter.

Eventually, the black holes will merge. They will suck up the Earth’s core, the mantle, and finally -- the entire planet.

Gladly, it could take a baby black hole thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of years to mature. That should give us some time to learn more about them. But the bad news is that even in the distant future, there isn’t much we can do. You cannot find or catch a black hole that is so small you cannot even see it, and that hides deep within the molten iron core of the planet. The only option is to evacuate the planet, if we happen to discover the predictions were wrong.

So, should we leave?

Well, that’s hard to say. As far as we know, everything should be okay. Our world is constantly being bombarded by tiny, high energy particles from outer space. This should also create mini black holes, high up in the atmosphere: up to one hundred each year. And as far as we know, these black holes are indeed unstable. For the last 4,5 billion of years, our planet didn’t die.

On the other hand: in physics, quite often, a totally unexpected, new phenomenon pops up. In recent years, physicists lifted their eyebrows over dark energy, the Pioneer anomaly, the missing of the Higgs boson, the pentaquark and the suspected drift of the fundamental constants. No, we're not going to explain all that -- but the bottom line is this: physicists are constantly being surprised by weird new stuff that wasn't in the theories yet.

Now, you don't want to be such a surprise to be a black hole that has our planet for breakfast!

And then there’s this. In march 2005, scientists working on the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider in Upton, New York created a fireball that indeed looked awfully much much like a black hole.

It was unstable. In fact, it wasn't even a real black hole. Or so the scientists involved say. Perhaps the first man-made black hole is on its way to the center of the planet already!" Exit Mundi, "A Black Hole Ate My Laboratory"
 

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