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Discussion in 'The Flash' started by $0UL3$$, Mar 12, 2014.
Definitely the movie-version.
OK, when I read the reports a few weeks ago I was expecting something overelaborate and needlessly bulky but I hold my hands up and admit that I'm happy to be proved wrong. I think it looks great for the most part. There are still things that I would change [more red in the dark 'body suit' base layer, more white in the emblem, maybe different wings on the ear but apart from that, I totally dig it. Love the fact that the lighting bolt has the 3 points as opposed to the previously mooted 2 [never felt that version of the emblem].
I tell you what though - you can definitely see the difference between a TV budget and movie budget.
I'm going to say the TV version is better. I mean, it could use brighter colors, sure. . . but the movie version has those awkward plastic armor plates. Not only do they make little sense for a speedster, but they distort his physique in odd ways, especially around the shoulders.
A clear one.
Both look good, but I do prefer the TV version. The TV version was definitely made on a 'shoe-string' budget, while the Movie Version was probably made by Bruce Wayne.
Sculpted armour is just so regressive to me - the lazy way of doing things in the 90s/00s. Superhero costumes have moved on to more interesting techniques and styles these days (for example, the current Captain America suits are so unlike anything that would have even been thought of in the 90s/00s) - the movie Flash suit just seems to me what we would have got 10-20 years ago. And it's what many Bat-fans were dying to see the Batsuit movie away from for so long and they finally got it - but the Flash is back in 90s/00s mode.
I wish it was just more like the undersuit we see, but in the brighter red. I don't want the rigid elements. It's okay I guess, it just should have been much more interesting.
It does show that the TV version could definitely be brighter though, I agree.
Speedsters travel at incredible speeds and engage in combat. There is no reason for them to dress as say track runners. This is a suit he made from scraps and he's place them to look good and protect himself. He's not like Superman who is invulnerable or Batman whose got the money.
They are trying to show that Barry made this all himself with limited funds.
Agree to disagree. I think Sculpted armor is still relevant. Remember that we got all these other costumes. Do we really need Flash is a red superman suit? The 90's/00's armor plating style was different. They were purely trying make thicker spandex and there was no style to the pads. The flash suit has interesting curves and patterns. There is also wear and tear.
Captain America has a terrific suit, I don't want to at all knock it but it's approached from a military standpoint. But it's also using that plate style design. It just hides it better with cloth and muted colors.
Batman? Different strokes. Not every fan wanted to see a BVS or JL style suit. But for me, you need to show different styles and have character.
In the end I think some people are very unfair.
Speedsters travel at incredible speeds, with incredible reflexes. The priority over all else should be lightness and flexibility, because a speedster's defense is "don't get hit". Insofar as collisions are an issue, armor should be unnecessary next to the same speedster magic that keeps air resistance from being an issue. Realize this isn't primarily a matter of realism, so much as theme and style. It just looks bizarre for the Flash to have a costume that says "armor" moreso than Batman, despite the Flash being more able to not-be-hit.
Well it is the prototype suit, we know Miller will also sport another more streamlined suit later in the movie. I mainly hope the movie's second suit doesn't have any big black sections, they just look off.
Where is the info that there will be another suit?
From the JL set visits/reports we got awhile back.
Alright, after the reveal of Superman's suit, I think it's high time that the CW revamps every character's costume, who doesn't belong to the Arrow crew. Flash, Kid Flash, Zoom, Reverse Flash, Vixen and Firestorm need a serious overhaul.
The Flash costume is actually pretty damn good. I'd just add a bit of more yellow to the costume.
I've seen a lot of talk lately about how The Flashs' costume is now being surpassed by those around him and I agree but what changes would you like to see?
I personally have no problems with the cowl, I think it's very well done. The material of the suit needs to change imo, something more like Hoechlin's Superman. The symbol is perfect, no complaints there. The colour is really bad, watching this week's episode with Barry standing next to Jesse in full costume not only showed hard dark Barry's is but also how well the red of Jesse's worked. I also think they need to find some kind of replacement for the belt, the big bulky buckle has never worked imo. Lastly I think it's high time they give him the yellow boots, Wally and Jesse's suits both both showed the differation in colours worked really well.
On another note Grant really needs to bulk up a bit, I know the flash isn't meant to be muscle bound but he should have more than is currently being displayed or have grant wear a muscle suit under the costume.
The TV version is superior, and the lighter red, white-symbol costume is better than the one depicted here. The movie version is too busy and segmented. It looks like a Kai Arts toy instead of a functional uniform.
Not a fan of the rigid parts movie suit. Is it held on with twine? But my biggest beef with the TV show Flash suit is the Belt and the boots.
I was going to make the very same comment. The movie version looks too busy. Though I would prefer the TV version was a brighter red.
I generally like it. I would prefer if it was the same material as the CW TV Superman suit (not absolutely identical, but more ... spandex-like and less leather-esque). Much like everyone else, I'd also like it to be a brighter red. And I wouldn't mind if the mask was tweaked a little, especially around the chin (although it's better than it was).
Otherwise, it's pretty good. I'm not sure I would go with yellow gloves and boots, but I wouldn't be opposed to the gold highlights on the costume being a brighter yellow.
I actually really like Grant's costume, but there are a few things they could improve.
I would make the red brighter overall. But have a bit of a color differentiation between the leather and the athletic fibre, so it's a little less bland. I would prefer a yellow belt and a thick yellow bolt around the gloves.
Yellow boots are a staple of the character, but would come off a little "rain boot-y" I think in action. But we could probably get some yellow accents in there to make it a little better.
I don't think the difference between the two suits really shows the difference between TV and movie budgets... they are deliberately different styles, and I'm sure the movie one IS more expensive... but I think the TV show could have something very comparable to the movie one if they wanted to... my reasoning for that being that the Atom suit Brandon Routh wears seems to have a pretty similar apparent production value as the movie Flash, with similar materials and construction methods.
TV Flash just looks the way it does because that's how they like it. And it's probably more durable and easy to work with too.
The Atom suit cost them a fortune, 90k+ to make, they could spend that type of money on The Flash costume but I doubt they want to. They are "cheap" when it comes to their suits, there is a reason why they use so much pleather and it isn't perfected to the actors body.
You know it's just a homemade version right? He'll get a polished one by the end of the movie.
Don't get hit seems fine until he does get hit. Then the audience goes "Why isn't he wearing any armor?". Yes trying to be utterly realistic is detrimental.
But again the moment he get's hit. The audience will ask themselves how such a smart guy didn't think up any defense.
Now this idea of lightness and flexibility. Armor can be light and flexible. The guy isn't wearing 200 pounds of metal for defense. This stuff is very strong but also very light.
Flexibility? We it's segmented armor. His pecs don't need to be flexible. The segmentation was made that way so he could move around.
So we got a speedster who shouldn't get hit but if he does then he's got light flexible armor to protect him.
As to Batman. Well I think this post was made before they revealed the newer Batsuit. Well I think Batman armored suit makes up for Flash having armor.
Now back to the tv show. Kid Flash and Jay Garrick the Real Flash have vibrant red suits. This dark red will no longer do. This dull yellow/gold will no longer do. Hey it worked back at the start but now Flash needs a serious upgrade. The only downside to the Kid Flash suit is that it seems to lack a little flexibility which can be easily resolved. Also I would mind if they also gave Grant the muscle suit they gave Kid Flash. Then again that might be why Kid Flash carries himself in a weird way.
Barry's definitely due for a new costume, wouldn't be surprised to see him get it in season 4.