The Dark Knight Rises The Great White Shark - Perfect Villain for BB3

[TheScarecrow]

Warren White (a.k.a. The Great White) was a ruthless businessman much along the lines of Lau etc. in Nolan's films. When finally brought to account for his crimes in court, White took advantage of the notoriety of Gotham City's insane residents, using the offence for his crimes and getting himself a place at Arkham - knowing that he would be able to get out of Arkham sooner than he would prison. When he couldn't take the Asylum any longer, White attempted to bribe is way out. This lead to him being left for dead in a freezer. What resulted was horrific frostbite, which left White without a nose, lips, ears, hair and even the loss of some of his fingers.

This basically transformed him into a freak and made his namesake a reality. If you ask me, this character better serves the role that many people are assigning to the Penguin and Black Mask, that being a character who shows the transformation of old-style criminals into "freaks". Plus, it's a brand new character in adaptions. Does anyone else agree that he'd be great to see?

 

[The Major]

They could just use Black Mask instead. Nolan not only likes him but he fits in the Nolan universe better with a similar plot.

 

[kid dropper]

Nolan's mentioned he favors Black Mask? link / quote, if you can?

 

[The Major]

Nolan's mentioned he favors Black Mask? link / quote, if you can?

I've heard BM was originally in an early draft from TDK.

 

[Robin91939]

That was a rumor that was never confirmed. According to those same rumors: Oswald Cobblepot was also in the script as a Russian Weapons dealer, and the film ended with a cliff hanger/Joker card like ending foreshadowing a date with Selina Kyle.

We'll never know which of these rumors was close to true, if any. There were heavy rumors, as you said, about Roman Sionis/Black Mask being in the film. Maybe in the place of Lau, but then taken out because they needed someone that would display Batman having no jurisdiction? I don't know. But it has never been substantiated that Black Mask was in any draft, other than (heavy) speculation.

-R

 

[Goodfellas]

You wanna go from The Joker in TDK to a villain lke The Great White Shark?

lol no offense i no you cant top what the Joker did in TDK but at least try and do your best using that villain is a downgrade from TDK

 

[Spider-Fan83]

by the title i was half expecting to see this...
LOL

 

[cerealkiller182]

Great White Shark the perfect villain? Probably not.

But he could definitely be cool to see

 

[namtaB]

What's his psychological link to Batman? That seems to be the guiding force behind the villains Nolan is putting in his films. That's why he said some villains don't work within the world he's created such as the Penguin. A lot of people didn't get the meaning of his comment. They were saying the Penguin is one of the most realistic villains and Nolan's comment made no sense. That's b/c they missed the whole point of his statement, there is a weak psychological link b/w Penguin and Batman which makes it difficult to put him in his approach to Batman. I see echoes of this with Warren White.

 

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Awesome

 

[Travesty]

by the title i was half expecting to see this...
LOL

Same here! LOL

 

[cerealkiller182]

What's his psychological link to Batman? That seems to be the guiding force behind the villains Nolan is putting in his films. That's why he said some villains don't work within the world he's created such as the Penguin. A lot of people didn't get the meaning of his comment. They were saying the Penguin is one of the most realistic villains and Nolan's comment made no sense. That's b/c they missed the whole point of his statement, there is a weak psychological link b/w Penguin and Batman which makes it difficult to put him in his approach to Batman. I see echoes of this with Warren White.

What are the psychological link between Maroni and Batman? My point being there is a role for any of the Rogues to be utilized in

Nevertheless Great White Shark has an origin that clearly depicts the cause and effect of escalation. Batman changes the criminals and the criminals change White considering he commited fradu or something else white collar and pled insanity. The judge says that Gotham is the last place to pead insanity and he ends up at Arkham and coming out as GWS

 

[Mutagen]

I'd rather see White in animated episodes, than a full blown movie.

I'd rather see the Penquin instead.

 

[The Guard]

No.

 

[Blaztro]

To Cereal Killer: The link is not between Batman and MAroni, but between Harvey Dent and Maroni.

And in the image of the shark attack, where's Batman's pants?

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

He and Killer Croc could make for some really ugly yet badass henchmen or heavies for a mob boss ala Penguin.

 

[Two-Face]

by the title i was half expecting to see this...
LOL

That's what I thought.

 

[cerealkiller182]

To Cereal Killer: The link is not between Batman and MAroni, but between Harvey Dent and Maroni.

No it isnt. They have 2 scenes together. Maroni is a stereotypical mobster lacking depth and Dent carries the whole movie. Theres no connection at all, not one of any depth.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

I'd better see some Anti-Shark Repellent.

 

[Crook]

What's his psychological link to Batman? That seems to be the guiding force behind the villains Nolan is putting in his films. That's why he said some villains don't work within the world he's created such as the Penguin. A lot of people didn't get the meaning of his comment. They were saying the Penguin is one of the most realistic villains and Nolan's comment made no sense. That's b/c they missed the whole point of his statement, there is a weak psychological link b/w Penguin and Batman which makes it difficult to put him in his approach to Batman. I see echoes of this with Warren White.

Except Batman Returns already proved this wrong.

Almost every reasonably popular villain in Batman's rogues gallery has a psychological link to Batman. This has been a known fact for decades. Whether that link is strong enough to hold an entire movie, is the question. But liberties can always be taken to strengthen that bond, as Burton showed with his sequel.

 

[namtaB]

Except Batman Returns already proved this wrong.

To quote Lucius Fox, At what cost? Yes there was a psychological link b/w Batman and Penguin in BR. However, if you listened to Burton's commentary and watch Waters talk about development of the film they plainly say that the source material was not enough to establish this link. The character of the Penguin became heavily contrived and required extensive reworking by Burton and Waters in order to make it work. Some may even call it a bastardization of the character.

 

[Crook]

Or an improvement.

Penguin, as is in the comics, imo, is a far inferior interpretation. I can understand why Burton did a rework of the character. He's right, the source material really wasn't strong enough to hold an entire 2 hour film. This goes for any character in the comics. It's inevitable that such liberties are taken to successfully adapt them for cinema. Some will just require more effort than others.

 

[Rasputin911]

To quote Lucius Fox, At what cost? Yes there was a psychological link b/w Batman and Penguin in BR. However, if you listened to Burton's commentary and watch Waters talk about development of the film they plainly say that the source material was not enough to establish this link. The character of the Penguin became heavily contrived and required extensive reworking by Burton and Waters in order to make it work. Some may even call it a bastardization of the character.

I always thought their link was that they are both wealthy blue-bloods who have a very dark side/unseemly habits which they try to conceal

 

[The Major]

Nevertheless Great White Shark has an origin that clearly depicts the cause and effect of escalation.

Batman has numerous villains better then GWS that fit into the escalation theme.

 

[cerealkiller182]

Batman has numerous villains better then GWS that fit into the escalation theme.

I didnt say he didnt. But theres obviously a connection, so no need to claim there isnt