The Greatest Criminal Mind of Our Time: Nicholas Hoult IS Lex Luthor

[squeekness]

Snyder didn’t even do that. BvS Lex is just baffling, no understandable characteristics or motives, he’s not a ceo, he’s not a brat, he’s not a mad scientist, but he’s also all of these things. Some fault lies on Eisenberg of course, but it’s mostly on Snyder and Terrio. The fact that WB wanted Tom Hanks or Joaquin Phoniex and Snyder talked to Adam Driver and Cranston before landing on Eisenberg shows how unthought out their conception of Lex was.

I suppose they thought Eisenberg's Lex would be like a Musk or a Zuckerberg but it didn't work for me at all.

 

[GreenKToo]

JE as Lex is probably the worst casting decision I've ever had the misfortune in seeing.
It's was just so baffling. It would be like casting Adam Sandler as batman ( I love Adam btw )

 

[Invader Joker]

Wouldn’t be surprising, given the All-Star influence.

Hoping he's still a businessman and has Lexcorp though, even if he's a genius scientist. Maybe he built his company out of some invention he did.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

JE as Lex is probably the worst casting decision I've ever had the misfortune in seeing.
It's was just so baffling. It would be like casting Adam Sandler as batman ( I love Adam btw )

I knew it was bad casting the moment it was announced. Eisenberg doesn't have the charisma or screen presence to pull off Lex Luthor.

He excels at playing quirky and neurotic characters. Trying to force that on Lex was completely misguided.

 

[SupermansPal]

 

[Sawyer]

Speaking of Rosenbaum…


I love that.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

Warms my heart to see Gunn praise Rosey. I know they're close friends in real life but the fact that he brought it up to Hoult is super cool.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Rosenbaum's Lex was one of the best things about Smallville. I'll always have fond memories of his time playing the character.

 

[flickchick85]

I do not care for Rosenbaum at all. Or Smallville. But it's nice to see one of these film guys respecting a CW DC show's place in the legacy nonetheless. As I was just reminded of earlier this year with a certain DC disaster, that's rare.

 

[GreenKToo]

I couldn't stand SV either season 5 on.
4 and before was pretty decent, until it ran off the rails.
Lex was my favorite part of it.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I couldn't stand SV either season 5 on.
4 and before was pretty decent, until it ran off the rails.
Lex was my favorite part of it.

For me, it was the reverse. Don't get me wrong, the first couple of seasons definitely had their charm, but the "freak of the week" trope got old really fast. I really enjoyed the Veritas arc with Christopher Reeve in season 7, though, not to mention the more clandestine stuff like "Checkmate."

Yep, we agree on this. Rosenbaum's Lex was the high point of the show.

 

[SupermansPal]

For me, it was the reverse. Don't get me wrong, the first couple of seasons definitely had their charm, but the "freak of the week" trope got old really fast. I really enjoyed the Veritas arc with Christopher Reeve in season 7, though, not to mention the more clandestine stuff like "Checkmate."

Yep, we agree on this. Rosenbaum's Lex was the high point of the show.

I frankly believe that seasons 8-10 are the best seasions, with finally getting rid of the gigantic dead weight that was Lana a not insignificant part of it.

 

[flickchick85]

Like I said, I don’t like Smallville, but I did watch all 10 seasons because I’m a devoted, masochistic Supes fan, and yeah, seasons 8-10 were far more tolerable to me due to Lois and the lack of Lana. As mentioned, I didn’t like Rosenbaum, so Lex’s presence in the earlier seasons doesn’t really move the needle for me. John Glover’s another story as he was genuinely great, but even his greatness could not overpower the Lana factor.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Like I said, I don’t like Smallville, but I did watch all 10 seasons because I’m a devoted, masochistic Supes fan, and yeah, seasons 8-10 were far more tolerable to me due to Lois and the lack of Lana. As mentioned, I didn’t like Rosenbaum, so Lex’s presence in the earlier seasons doesn’t really move the needle for me. John Glover’s another story as he was genuinely great, but even his greatness could not overpower the Lana factor.

To me, Smallville already had its Lois in every way but name: Chloe. I believe that the showrunners even intended to reveal her identity as Lois at some point. In that sense, I found Welling and Durance's dynamic to be a little forced at first. But, thankfully, their on-screen chemistry improved over time.

 

[flickchick85]

To me, Smallville already had its Lois in every way but name: Chloe. I believe that the showrunners even intended to reveal her identity as Lois at some point. In that sense, I found Welling and Durance's dynamic to be a little forced at first. But, thankfully, their on-screen chemistry improved over time.

I hated Chloe with a burning passion so I cannot follow you down that road at all. Thank God the showrunners didn’t go through with that is all I have to say.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I hated Chloe with a burning passion so I cannot follow you down that road at all. Thank God the showrunners didn’t go through with that is all I have to say.

Yeah, but even though you clearly disliked her, wasn't it sort of obvious that she was intended to be Lois? Adam Knight was another one; he was basically Bruce Wayne on a shoestring.

 

[flickchick85]

Yeah, but even though you clearly disliked her, wasn't it sort of obvious that she was intended to be Lois? Adam Knight was another one; he was basically Bruce Wayne on a shoestring.

If Lois was terrible, sure.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

 

[SupermansPal]

My friend had a pretty interesting idea of Lex having a Mid-Atlantic accent.

For those who don't know, the Mid-Atlantic accent is an entirely made up dialect used by several intellectuals and upper class people in the late 19th-early 20th century.

I could definitely see Lex wanting to erase his natural Midwestern accent to the max.

 

[Invader Joker]

My friend had a pretty interesting idea of Lex having a Mid-Atlantic accent.

For those who don't know, the Mid-Atlantic accent is an entirely made up dialect used by several intellectuals and upper class people in the late 19th-early 20th century.

I could definitely see Lex wanting to erase his natural Midwestern accent to the max.

A little bit outdated for this.

 

[Sawyer]

Mildly off topic, but I’m always a bit gagged to see that The Rolling Stones are still at it together after 60 years.

 

[flickchick85]

My friend had a pretty interesting idea of Lex having a Mid-Atlantic accent.

For those who don't know, the Mid-Atlantic accent is an entirely made up dialect used by several intellectuals and upper class people in the late 19th-early 20th century.

I could definitely see Lex wanting to erase his natural Midwestern accent to the max.

Having just watched Jason Isaacs attempt to recreate Cary Grant's famous Mid-Atlantic accent in Archie, I'm gonna have to give a hard pass to any future attempts at such an accent tbh.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Outside of period pieces I don't really see a good reason to use that accent, it's a neat relic of film history, but hard to take seriously in modern times.

 

[Herolee10]

It'd be nice to finally get a cinematic portrayal of Lex that's legitimately menacing.

 

[Deck Rickard]

It'd be nice to finally get a cinematic portrayal of Lex that's legitimately menacing.

You mean you don’t wake up screaming at night at the thought of Eisenberg shoving a Jolly Rancher into your mouth?