The Hip Hop/Rap Thread - Part 1

[agentorange]

Death Grips - *****s On The Moon
Lil B - Hoop Life
Xavier Wulf - Blood Shore

its been a good week

 

[Em Dee]

Has anyone heard waves by Joey bada$$?

 

[Aesop Rocks]

yes

 

[sweetre15]

For any of you longtime Hip hop fans, Let's go over the eras of Def Jam Records and which era y'all like most:

The Golden Era - 1983 to roughly 1994: The most notable artists on the label during this time were LL Cool J, Run DMC, Beastie Boys, EPMD, Redman and Slick Rick

The Renaissance Era - 1995 to 2004: A lot of big things happened for Def Jam during this time such as LL Cool J's comeback album Mr.Smith, The signing of Method Man, The formation of the Def Squad with Redman, Erick Sermon, and Keith Murray. The introductions of upcoming artists such as DMX, Ludacris, Foxy Brown, and Ja Rule. The alliances with Jay Z/Roc-A-Fella records, and Irv Gotti's Murder Inc. Records. The signing of vets such as Scarface and Ghostface Killah. 'Face also became president of Def Jam South.

The Modern Era - 2005 to now: Notable events include The signing of Jay Z as President, Jay Z talking Nas into signing to Def Jam. The signing of Rick Ross, Curren$y, Big K.R.I.T, Def Jam, The Roots, and Cash Money's original in-house producer Mannie Fresh. The departure of LL Cool J following his album Exit 13 album.



Anyway, I want to know which era of Def Jam you guys enjoyed the most since this label, throughout it's ups and downs, is the label that really put hip-hop on the map and was once the premiere hip hop label.

 

[agentorange]

I was born in 93 so imma have to go with the Renaissance Era. Since thats the era I relate to the most Ja, Hov, and DMX coulda been the original slaughterhouse

 

[sweetre15]

I was born in 93 so imma have to go with the Renaissance Era. Since thats the era I relate to the most Ja, Hov, and DMX coulda been the original slaughterhouse

While I wasn't the biggest Ja fan after he dropped Rule 3:16 and Pain is Love, I did like their collabs when they were the original Murda Inc group.

I definitely liked most releases out of that period though.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

How do you feel about Dom Kennedy?>

 

[sweetre15]

How do you feel about Dom Kennedy?>

He's aight, I heard him on a Schoolboy Q track before.

 

[sweetre15]

For anyone here that's not a big hip hop historian, I recommend getting a hold of the earliest Run DMC, Redman, EPMD, and Public Enemy albums along with Slick Rick's 91-93 albums, and LL Cool J's 1st and 4th albums to know why some hold the Golden Era of Def Jam in high regard.

Also feel free to watch that movie Krush Groove.

 

[agentorange]

While I wasn't the biggest Ja fan after he dropped Rule 3:16 and Pain is Love, I did like their collabs when they were the original Murda Inc group.

I definitely liked most releases out of that period though.

I feel you. I liked Ja's music when he wasnt all singing and tryna be pop, thats why I think he made his best music during his whole feud with 50. Blood In My Eye was his best album to me.

 

[sweetre15]

I feel you. I liked Ja's music when he wasnt all singing and tryna be pop, thats why I think he made his best music during his whole feud with 50. Blood In My Eye was his best album to me.

Yeah though around that time he tried to hard to make his image similar to Tupac's to an extreme degree. Using his rhymes, covering his tracks and adopting his look.

 

[sweetre15]

As a Continuation of my Nostalgia trip, I listened to License to Ill at work today, with the exception of a couple corny tracks, it's still a dope album.

I like Paul's Boutique ALOT more though.

What's amusing though is that License to Ill is what made Eminem want to pursue a rap career after his late uncle let him listen to it.

 

[Maximus One]

Got my package in the mail yesterday. Sadistik's new cd Ultraviolet with a t shirt and a booklet of all his lyrics up until now. Awesome cd too

 

[agentorange]

IDK how many of yall are into battle rap but Dizaster just sucker punched Math Hoffa at BOLA5 https://vine.co/v/MF5Db2i3TQ2

 

[agentorange]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ0DJ-3Hk2E

 

[Dispatch Ninja]

Got my package in the mail yesterday. Sadistik's new cd Ultraviolet with a t shirt and a booklet of all his lyrics up until now. Awesome cd too

I'm loving it. Disappointed that the vinyl wasn't with it though, didn't know it was shipping later.

 

[sweetre15]

What are y'all personal opinions of these albums?:

Licensed to Ill:

Mama Said Knock You Out:

Yo! Bum Rush The Show:

Raising Hell:

 

[Dr. Evil]

For any of you longtime Hip hop fans, Let's go over the eras of Def Jam Records and which era y'all like most:

The Golden Era - 1983 to roughly 1994: The most notable artists on the label during this time were LL Cool J, Run DMC, Beastie Boys, EPMD, Redman and Slick Rick

The Renaissance Era - 1995 to 2004: A lot of big things happened for Def Jam during this time such as LL Cool J's comeback album Mr.Smith, The signing of Method Man, The formation of the Def Squad with Redman, Erick Sermon, and Keith Murray. The introductions of upcoming artists such as DMX, Ludacris, Foxy Brown, and Ja Rule. The alliances with Jay Z/Roc-A-Fella records, and Irv Gotti's Murder Inc. Records. The signing of vets such as Scarface and Ghostface Killah. 'Face also became president of Def Jam South.

The Modern Era - 2005 to now: Notable events include The signing of Jay Z as President, Jay Z talking Nas into signing to Def Jam. The signing of Rick Ross, Curren$y, Big K.R.I.T, Def Jam, The Roots, and Cash Money's original in-house producer Mannie Fresh. The departure of LL Cool J following his album Exit 13 album.

Anyway, I want to know which era of Def Jam you guys enjoyed the most since this label, throughout it's ups and downs, is the label that really put hip-hop on the map and was once the premiere hip hop label.

The Renaissance Era. That was when DMX, Ja Rule, Foxy Brown and the Def Squad were at their best. Now I don't know where most of the Def Jam rappers from that era are. Ludacris and LL Cool J are busy with acting.

BTW anyone remember the female rapper from the Terror Squad Remy Ma?

 

[sweetre15]

The Renaissance Era. That was when DMX, Ja Rule, Foxy Brown and the Def Squad were at their best. Now I don't know where most of the Def Jam rappers from that era are. Ludacris and LL Cool J are busy with acting.

BTW anyone remember the female rapper from the Terror Squad Remy Ma?

Last I had heard Remy Ma had gotten herself locked up.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Last I had heard Remy Ma had gotten herself locked up.

She's weeks away from being released.

She's been gone for so long that I don't know if she can still be a powerful female rapper, although there are so few of them these days, compared to before she went to prison. Before she went to prison, you had her, Eve, Shawnna, Missy Elliot, Lil Kim, Lauryn Hill and Foxy Brown and an up and comer named Trina. When she gets out the landscape of the female MC will have greatly changed. Trina is still around but now its Nicki Minaj and Iggy Azalea with Azalea Banks the up and comer that is dominating among the female MC's.

 

[the last son]

Just found a great song. lloyd banks "finish line"

 

[HeyZeus]

I heard Death Grips just broke up.

 

[sweetre15]

I decided to dust off an old classic and review it for you guys...Feel free to tell me what you think, ok?

Anyway here it is:

So the question I'm asking myself is that despite the HUGE impact this album had on hip-hop, Did this album stand the test of time? In my personal opinion, NO.

The standout tracks on the album are still highly entertaining but the album as a complete work is lackluster compared to some of LL's later work such as Mama Said Knock You Out, Mr.Smith, and maybe even Exit 13.

Songs such as I Can Give You More, Dangerous, I Want You, I Need a Beat, Can't Live Without My Radio, and Rock The Bells are still entertaining today and forever will be to me but tracks like Dear Yvette, You Can't Dance, and That's A Lie bring the quality of the album down big time because there doesn't seem to be any real flow to this album contrary to critics claiming this album was more cohesive than other hip hop albums that preceded it.

I normally would do track and technical breakdowns but not for this album because there is only so much I can say about it besides the fact that old Kool Moe Dee albums have somehow aged better.

So.....

Rating: 6.5/10

Verdict: Groundbreaking album but a Lackluster in quality.

Feel free to give your own feedback on this album if you like

 

[ComicChick]

The Renaissance Era. That was when DMX, Ja Rule, Foxy Brown and the Def Squad were at their best. Now I don't know where most of the Def Jam rappers from that era are. Ludacris and LL Cool J are busy with acting.

BTW anyone remember the female rapper from the Terror Squad Remy Ma?

DMX and Foxy were my favorites.

I still have a song or two of Remy's on my Ipod. I know Conceited is definitely on there

 

[Dr. Evil]

Well, Remy Ma is going to be out of prison soon. It'll be interesting to see if she still has what it takes, although the field of female rappers from when she first got in until when she is released has thinned out in recent years, so if she still has anything left, she could make waves in a thin era of female rappers.

She got into prison in 2008 as the last good era Female Rappers was about to be shut. Not saying that there isn't any talent, because Nicki Minaj and Iggy Azalea are the top two, but after them who else is there? Azalea Banks looks to have talent, but the more she ticks everyone off, the more she may be not long as a rapper. Trina is still around from that last era.

IMO, 2000-2010 was the last good era of Female Rappers. Besides Remy, there was Foxy Brown, Lil Kim, Lauryn Hill, Eve, Missy Elliot and Shawnna. All of them were very talented rappers but most have disappeared. Before that you had the 90's with Queen Latifah, MC Lyte, Left Eye of TLC and Salt N'Pepa. Left Eye is sadly deceased and I don't know what happened with Lyte and SNP. Latifah as we all know has been focusing more on her acting and producing career in the last decade even having her own talk show.

I think that if she still has it, Remy Ma could make a major comeback in 2015.