The Hitman

[Symbiotic]

good new trailer.

 

[Nathan]

I'm not going to judge the Movie just yet, judging from the Trailer we can maybe expect some good action. But it pisses me off that they changed his whole origin. Kid injected with the genes of the worlds most dangerous criminals, raised in an exiled church and shaves his head.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I'm not going to judge the Movie just yet, judging from the Trailer we can maybe expect some good action. But it pisses me off that they changed his whole origin. Kid injected with the genes of the worlds most dangerous criminals, raised in an exiled church and shaves his head.

Better watch out, some posters will get mad at you and call you a whiney fanboy for getting mad about his origin change. I know you won't judge the movie yet until you've seen it, which is cool by the way.

But for me, I feel this movie is going to be a piece of crap. The change of origin, the actor, and the overall feel judging from the trailers is like a mindless action film. I wanted this one to be about 47's creation as an enhanced clone, his escape put together by Dr. Ort Meyer which leads to him being employed by the Agency. Of course you can add that there are other clones looking for him into the storyline as well.

It looks like all we have now is God of War, Metal Gear, and Gears of War. It seems like they've already ruined Hitman.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

It looks like all we have now is God of War, Metal Gear, and Gears of War. It seems like they've already ruined Hitman.

Annnd what makes you think they wont ruin those either?

I dont know about this movie yet. I think if you are going into the movie not knowing anything about the game or having played them then i think itll be a blast as both trailers were fantastic, but im not one of thos ppl. Im just not sold on Olyphant, i mean hes a pretty good actor but i just dont know if hes 47. Altho ill wait and hold all judgements until i see the film as iv been in this situation before with the last Bond film and Craig turned out to be the best Bond to date(imo).

 

[블라스]

From all the explosions and SWAT team action it's safe to say he's not getting a Silent Assasin rating.

Hahahahaha genius

 

[StrainedEyes]

You know what.. Did any of you actually think nothing would change from the game? EVERY movie that has EVER been made based off of a book or game has been changed.. (Sin City being an obvious exception)... Just look at the Bourne movies, totally different than the books but still fun to watch.

It was obvious going in that the movies story would be original and different than the game. I think that having a director who says he loves the games is a huge step in the right direction.

It will be different, get over it, every adaption changes things.

From changing the order of events - American Psycho
To switching characters importance - Last of the Mohicans, One Flew Over the Cukoo's Nest
To just using character names and locations but very little of the story - Bourne, The Shining

There are very few films that stayed true to it's source material.

I'm not saying that you're stupid for being mad that it changed, I'm saying you're stupid if you're suprised that it did.

 

[Nathan]

Of course I didn't expect a 1:1 adaptation of the games. But is it too much to ask not to change the origin entirely? Seriously, how do you go from clone and assassin of the Agency to being a raised killer from childhood and savior?

 

[Addendum]

I'm sure if Sam Raimi changed the origin of Spiderman to Peter Parker being the last surviving race of human/spider hybrids, spidey fans wouldn't have seen the movies.

Or if Richard Donner changed the origin of Superman to a regular american guy getting hit by a nuclear bomb and instead of being vaporized, he becomes indestructible, can fly, see through walls, have heat vision, freeze things with his breath, and becomes super strong, that the Superman movies wouldn't be considered that great

 

[StrainedEyes]

Of course I didn't expect a 1:1 adaptation of the games. But is it too much to ask not to change the origin entirely? Seriously, how do you go from clone and assassin of the Agency to being a raised killer from childhood and savior?

The way the science community sees clones now-a-days is that you clone something and it is born and you have to raise it. You can't just duplicate something exactly how it is. You duplicate the DNA and have to birth it somehow... It's just more realistic that this lab gave birth to x amount of clones and had to raise them to be killers.

The church thing has also been part of 47's character. In Hitman 2 he was living at a church and under the guard/friendship of a priest. He had given up assassination until people came and attacked the church.

Like any good adaption, they took elements from the orginal story, and gave it new life.. We have no idea how it all plays out yet.

 

[Addendum]

And then after he saved the priest, he left to continue on with his life as an assassin and rejected the church

 

[StrainedEyes]

I'm sure if Sam Raimi changed the origin of Spiderman to Peter Parker being the last surviving race of human/spider hybrids, spidey fans wouldn't have seen the movies.

Or if Richard Donner changed the origin of Superman to a regular american guy getting hit by a nuclear bomb and instead of being vaporized, he becomes indestructible, can fly, see through walls, have heat vision, freeze things with his breath, and becomes super strong, that the Superman movies wouldn't be considered that great

Those are rediculously more drastic than this is. He is still a clone/ultimate assasin created by a labratory, who assassinates the bad people of the world. The very basics of the origin are still there.

The changes are no more drastic than having Peter get bit during a field trip instead of a science presentation, or having Uncle Ben killed by a car jacker instead of in his home.

 

[Nathan]

The way the science community sees clones now-a-days is that you clone something and it is born and you have to raise it. You can't just duplicate something exactly how it is. You duplicate the DNA and have to birth it somehow... It's just more realistic that this lab gave birth to x amount of clones and had to raise them to be killers.

And you don't climb up walls because you've been bitten by a radioactive Spider. So what's your point?

The church thing has also been part of 47's character. In Hitman 2 he was living at a church and under the guard/friendship of a priest. He had given up assassination until people came and attacked the church.

Yes, it was part of his background. When he retired. The church didn't have anything to do with him becoming an assassin.

 

[StrainedEyes]

And then after he saved the priest, he left to continue on with his life as an assassin and rejected the church

So what? He was still invloved with the church, which is what the trailer suggests. He could very well reject the church in the movie.

 

[StrainedEyes]

And you don't climb up walls because you've been bitten by a radioactive Spider. So what's your point?



Yes, it was part of his background. When he retired. The church didn't have anything to do with him becoming an assassin.

I hate people using that argument.
"The cgi in Spider-man looks fake."
"Well when you find someone who can actually swing through the city and climb on walls and know what it looks like, then you can say it looks fake."

They are obviously trying to base Hitman in some kind of science fiction reality. Superheros require their own form of reality, Hitman doesn't require that big of a stretch from the world we actually live in.


Again, so what? Does this change the character in any significant way? This isn's as bad as people being pissed off that Bond is blonde, but it's not far off.
We do not know exactly how things happen.

Frankly this makes it alittle more interesting. This rouge section of the catholic church is working with this science lab to breed assasins to kill the evil of the world.

Obviously it's not the story from the game, where he breaks out and hunts down the other clones. But it's a fine replacement.

 

[Penismightier]

I kinda cant get my mind around the cool trailers because the only thing that goes through my mind is "video game adaption, looks cool, but in reality is a 90 minute piece of garbage"

Although the trailers do look good, and out of all the video game adaptions..this one looks to be the best.

Yeah, I feel the same way. The problem may be that they're trying to make it like a video game, as in fast-paced. If you play the Hitman games the right way, it's not fast-paced at all. If you're going to adapt the games to a movie, draw inspiration from something like The Day of the Jackal.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Edit: double post. Hype messed up.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Annnd what makes you think they wont ruin those either?

I dont know about this movie yet. I think if you are going into the movie not knowing anything about the game or having played them then i think itll be a blast as both trailers were fantastic, but im not one of thos ppl. Im just not sold on Olyphant, i mean hes a pretty good actor but i just dont know if hes 47. Altho ill wait and hold all judgements until i see the film as iv been in this situation before with the last Bond film and Craig turned out to be the best Bond to date(imo).

Well, perhaps it's just me on this account, but when you think about those particular games the creators want it done right. It's one of the main reasons why Kojima hasn't allowed Metal Gear to be made into a film.

Bond and Hitman are two different entities. You cannot compare the two because Bond has been around longer and has had many different actors portray him. The only reason why Craig received flack is because he wasn't Pierce Brosnan and people cared more about how he looked, rather than how he acted.

I don't feel Olyphant is a good actor at all. He doesn't have the chops nor does he have the look of 47, and for me, as a fan of the games, 47 needs to come across as a very cold, calculated, and detached individual that kills because he does it for money not because that person is evil.

I said from the beginning that Bateson who does the voice of 47 along with his face used as a character model should've played 47. Yes, he's an unknown compared to Olyphant, but the man is a great stage and film actor who would do the character justice. Again, all of this is my opinion and I would like for Olyphant to prove me wrong, however, I just see this film being nothing more than a mindless action film with major deviations from the story and the character.

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Here is the video of Bateson(the voice and face of 47).

 

[Nathan]

I hate people using that argument.
"The cgi in Spider-man looks fake."
"Well when you find someone who can actually swing through the city and climb on walls and know what it looks like, then you can say it looks fake."

And I complained about the CGI when? I'm talking about your genetics argument. Grown up Clones can't be created? Neither can genetically altered Spiders that give you super powers. This isn't a documentary, it's a damn movie based on a game.

They are obviously trying to base Hitman in some kind of science fiction reality. Superheros require their own form of reality, Hitman doesn't require that big of a stretch from the world we actually live in.

I prefer the reality where grown up identical clones can be created over a matter of weeks to month.

 

[cky]

God of War is already going to be horrible. Why? Uwe Boll.

The second trailer looks a bit better.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

God of War is already going to be horrible. Why? Uwe Boll.

Uwe Boll is not going to direct God of War.

Furthermore, on Comic-con 2007 Game head's Geoff Heighley introduced creator of God of War, David Jaffe to infamous film-director, Uwe Boll. David was asked by Geoff "Would you really let him direct God of War?", David answers "If it was my call you ask me? Truthfully? No, I would not". Uwe replied "Wait until you see Postal, then you judge." This rules out the possibility of having Uwe Boll as the director (Which should relieve most fans). David also confirmed that Universal Studios is behind the making of the God of War movie and that he has no idea "Where it's at".

 

[cky]

Uwe Boll is not going to direct God of War.

Furthermore, on Comic-con 2007 Game head's Geoff Heighley introduced creator of God of War, David Jaffe to infamous film-director, Uwe Boll. David was asked by Geoff "Would you really let him direct God of War?", David answers "If it was my call you ask me? Truthfully? No, I would not". Uwe replied "Wait until you see Postal, then you judge." This rules out the possibility of having Uwe Boll as the director (Which should relieve most fans). David also confirmed that Universal Studios is behind the making of the God of War movie and that he has no idea "Where it's at".

Well that was the last I heard. I'm not update to on games I'm not really into.

 

[StrainedEyes]

And I complained how the CGI when? I'm talking about your genetics argument. Grown up Clones can't be created? Neither can genetically altered Spiders that give your super powers. This isn't a documentary, it's a damn movie based on a game.



I prefer the reality where grown up identical clones can be created over a matter of weeks to month.

It's the same argument.
"Clones can't be copied adults."
"Well... Spiders can't give people the ability to climb on walls."

It's the same argument as the CGI excuse. No **** spiders don't give people powers, and people don't really swing around, that is not the point at all.

Spider-man is grounded in reality by Peter Parker, his status and his relationships. You have to ground a story for it to be relatable. His powers are an extension of that.

Hitman is not grounded into reality by his relationships, or even really his job. In order to make a story somewhat relatable you have to use some things from reality and some things that aren't. So they decided to go with the reality that clones have to be raised.. I really don't see why it's a problem, It makes more sense that these kids are born and raised in this environment to be killers, then them just popping up and being trained.

Making characters relatable and grounded is what forces alot of changes that Hollywood makes. We don't know why they do it, but they just do. Hitman is not the first movie to change the source material, so there is really no point in getting all pissy about it, just try to enjoy it for what it is and move the **** on.

 

[StrainedEyes]

Hitman is not exactly a game series known for it's thrilling story. Christ half the games really didn't even have one. Hitman as a game franchise is all about the playing of the game and very little about the actual story. They don't even mention that he's a clone anymore. For all newcomer know is that he is a badass guy with a barcode on his neck who can kill anyone without anyone noticing. Hell most people haven't even played Hitman : Codename 47 because it's only on the PC. And thus have no idea of his true origin.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Um, you obviously don't know the story of Hitman right? You do realize he was raised in the labs in which he was created in? He was considered one of the rare successful clones that was created.

So yes, he was educated and trained in the art of killing, and to some extent he was raised by the doctors and that's the concept they should've went with in my opinion. Trying to make him relatable is just a stupid idea because you're not supposed to be able to relate to a killer.

Hitman isn't Jigsaw aka John Kramer(Saw) who you can relate to and see where he's coming from with his views.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Hitman is not exactly a game series known for it's thrilling story. Christ half the games really didn't even have one. Hitman as a game franchise is all about the playing of the game and very little about the actual story. They don't even mention that he's a clone anymore. For all newcomer know is that he is a badass guy with a barcode on his neck who can kill anyone without anyone noticing. Hell most people haven't even played Hitman : Codename 47 because it's only on the PC. And thus have no idea of his true origin.

In Hitman: Blood Money they mention he's a clone. It's mentioned more than once by the way.