H20 was the first Halloween I ever saw. I only saw some of the other ones in the last 2 years. Gotta say, I watched it plenty while on HBO (or Showtime, either or) and found it pretty damn entertaining.
I want slashers to have a resurgence. I'm not a fan of ghost movies and the only good found footage film yet has been Cloverfield and even that's not too great.
Agreed, I hate those found footage, paranormal pieces of trash. But I suppose it's the same as in the 80s, a Friday the 13th copied the Halloween formula and then everyone else copied Friday the 13th. Me they're all copying the ghostly films and it sucks.
I adore it. It's a hilarious ride imo. It's fast paced and has awesome kills and a wicked sense of goofyness I can't get enough of. Some of the cast is actually pretty good and handles what they were given well and I really love Uber Jason. I don't get how some hardcore Friday fans act like it's some insult to the integrity to the series. I love these movies as much as the next fan, but come on people, it's ain't Shakespeare. Hell, it's hardly Cliff Notes. It's more like Captain Underpants. Integrity is not a word that belongs anywhere near the Friday franchise.
Jason X was fun but it's not canon for me. It's like a weird alternative future where he gets revived into space. The movie was basically a joke from the start that inexplicably made it into production.
I saw Jason X in the theater opening night and there were maybe 5 other people there in the entire theater, it's good for what it is and it did give us the sleeping bag kill for the second time which is one of my faves.
I remember trivia about that scene. The actor was so frustrated with doing the take for it it over and over trying to get it right he started throwing the sleeping bags around like that, the director loved it and they kept it in.
I have always thought of H1, H2 and H20 as a trilogy. I never got the hate for H20. Many of the long standing criticisms are very misguided. People call it a Scream clone. Why? Sure, it's more modern looking than the other films, only because it IS a modern film. Is it because of the teens? The three teens in this film are no different than any other cast of teens in the series or most other slasher flicks. Hell, they are barely in the film. The character of Laurie is still the main protagonist and I think haters completely miss how the bulk of the film is about her. This is very much Laurie's film. It doesn't concern itself with trying to be ultra hip or modern with meta humor gags. It's a straight forward slasher film. The stalk sequences are genuinely suspenseful and the last act is one of the best of any slasher film ever made.
I like to pretend Resurrection never happened. You can argue most sequels are made solely for profit but Resurrection is one of the only films where I could genuinely feel the greed of the producers oozing through the screen. Every single aspect of that film is fake and phony-the plot, the characters, the acting, the absolutely idiotic and insulting way Mike is still alive....urgh it makes me so angry. It's one of my most hated films of all time. Say what you want about Rob Zombies films. At least they are a distinct vision of the director whether you hate it or not. Resurrection is a soulless, empty insult of the highest order.
I agree 1000%! I watch these movies every October (usually Halloween night, unless I'm otherwise occupied). The only thing I don't like about H20 is Michael's mask. The masks used in some of the other sequels were better than that one. But the writing & performances were top notch. I did find it somewhat lacking in suspense, but I think that was more a case of me being so used to slasher films it's tough for me to feel frightened by them any more. But I can at least recognise that they were attempting to make the movie suspenseful, which I can respect.
I adore it. It's a hilarious ride imo. It's fast paced and has awesome kills and a wicked sense of goofyness I can't get enough of. Some of the cast is actually pretty good and handles what they were given well and I really love Uber Jason. I don't get how some hardcore Friday fans act like it's some insult to the integrity to the series. I love these movies as much as the next fan, but come on people, it's ain't Shakespeare. Hell, it's hardly Cliff Notes. It's more like Captain Underpants. Integrity is not a word that belongs anywhere near the Friday franchise.
Jason X is fun for what it is. If you watch it as a Friday The 13th film you're going to be disappointed. But if you watch it as an "Alien" style Sci-Fi/Action/Horror movie, it's quite enjoyable. I've said before that if you take Jason out of the equasion, it's actually a pretty good movie. If instead of finding Jason Voorhees the students had found the failed attempt at creating a "Captain America Type" super soldier, audiences probably would have loved it.
The same goes with Jason Goes To Hell. If it were a story about a demonic slug possessing people until it could join with the person destined to either bring forth Hell on Earth or destroy it once and for all, people probably would have really liked it. Tell people that the demon slug is the immortal spirit of Jason Voorhees, and everyone ends up hating it.
If you can trick yourself into not seeing these films as Friday The 13th movies, they're actually quite enjoyable.
Second Interpretation:
Halloween
Halloween 2
Halloween H20
Halloween Resurrection
When you factor in Rob Zombie's films, and then Halloween 3, and then factor in the fact that going from H2 to H20 requires some sort of magical leap in logic, this series has five separate universes going on, and there are only ten films.
Currently watching Deadly Friend. A robot with 1985 level technology but artificial intelligence that gets transplanted into a girl who is killed by her abusive father.
It's too funny. My watch has more cpu power than that robot brain would.
Being Wes Craven and having seen clips of the infamous basketball-head-explosion-death I am hoping for some good deaths in this movie.
Already it's humorours. They literally stick the computer chip in her brain and use some ******** lines to explain how her now cold corpse can come back to life because the chip will re-route around the damaged parts of the brain (ie; all of it? I guess).
Even better, he has a remote control for her brain.
Probably the same way he survives being shot in the chest 11 times by Doctor Loomis and twice in the head by Laurie (not to mention being stabbed in the neck by a knitting needle, and in the chest with a kitchen knife).
The bigger question is how in the hell did Doctor Loomis survive getting blown up?
I adore it. It's a hilarious ride imo. It's fast paced and has awesome kills and a wicked sense of goofyness I can't get enough of. Some of the cast is actually pretty good and handles what they were given well and I really love Uber Jason. I don't get how some hardcore Friday fans act like it's some insult to the integrity to the series. I love these movies as much as the next fan, but come on people, it's ain't Shakespeare. Hell, it's hardly Cliff Notes. It's more like Captain Underpants. Integrity is not a word that belongs anywhere near the Friday franchise.
Bits of it, the Cronenberg kill she the liquid ice dunk are two of the best of the series. I think if they'd just made a film in the facility it would have been much better. As soon as they left on the ship I think it went downhill. I just think Jason in a Space is a stupid concept to be honest, it was for me just another bad entry to the series.
It is really difficult to make a Science-Horror film (a Science Fiction and horror film). The creative team has to make sure that each half is perfectly tuned: if one is not perfectly calibrated, the whole instrument fails. Thus, when we have to list the best sci-horror films, the list is very, very short. Alien, is of course at the top, along with The Thing (and its precursor)...and aside from a few others, that is it. The reason I've described how difficult it is to make a good science fiction film, let alone a horror film, not to even mention a Sci-Horror film, is that the creative team should not have bothered attempting it.
There are few skilled hands that could write science fiction for the screen back then and upgrading a B-list property such as F13 was beyond their skill. In order to make the property viable, one has to betray it, which would be box office suicide. Now, that does not mean that every Friday film is about Jason killings youth at the camp; but, when you deviate far from a simple formula, the risk amplifies, with each turning of the proverbial dial.
As the poster above me noted, they should have pursued the idea of Jason attacking a military facility. The writer could use Aliens as a reference point in balancing the action and horror, and make a passable F13 film. After all, the films do not require A-list talent to succeed---all they need is someone to wear the cheapo plastic mask, someone to mix the corn syrup with red food die, and a few actors willing to get naked, and whoila, one has a Friday13 film.
Hell, I could make one on the weekend if I had a half decent camera and some theatre students willing to do the nasty onscreen, I could make it and achieve the bare minimum and have it applauded.
It is really difficult to make a Science-Horror film (a Science Fiction and horror film). The creative team has to make sure that each half is perfectly tuned: if one is not perfectly calibrated, the whole instrument fails. Thus, when we have to list the best sci-horror films, the list is very, very short. Alien, is of course at the top, along with The Thing (and its precursor)...and aside from a few others, that is it. The reason I've described how difficult it is to make a good science fiction film, let alone a horror film, not to even mention a Sci-Horror film, is that the creative team should not have bothered attempting it.
There are few skilled hands that could write science fiction for the screen back then and upgrading a B-list property such as F13 was beyond their skill. In order to make the property viable, one has to betray it, which would be box office suicide. Now, that does not mean that every Friday film is about Jason killings youth at the camp; but, when you deviate far from a simple formula, the risk amplifies, with each turning of the proverbial dial.
As the poster above me noted, they should have pursued the idea of Jason attacking a military facility. The writer could use Aliens as a reference point in balancing the action and horror, and make a passable F13 film. After all, the films do not require A-list talent to succeed---all they need is someone to wear the cheapo plastic mask, someone to mix the corn syrup with red food die, and a few actors willing to get naked, and whoila, one has a Friday13 film.
Hell, I could make one on the weekend if I had a half decent camera and some theatre students willing to do the nasty onscreen, I could make it and achieve the bare minimum and have it applauded.
Thats what's so baffling the Friday the 13th fans just want a simple stalk and slash film, set it at the camp maybe even have the camp be full of kids or do it in the winter where its snowing. I don't think that's too difficult.
I've been thinking that they should do a sequel to the reboot have the camp re-opened and also have the girl who killed Mrs Voorhees in the prologue in the remake come back (infact all I kept thinking was she looks like Melissa George so get her to play the older version of that character) for some clarity, maybe she's struggling to cope with her actions so she's advised to return where it happened. Then it starts happening again. You could even have flashbacks to Mrs Voorhees aswell. I think that'd be an interesting sequel and tying it into the past could give the 13th Friday film that special something that shows its come full circle.
Currently watching Deadly Friend. A robot with 1985 level technology but artificial intelligence that gets transplanted into a girl who is killed by her abusive father.
It's too funny. My watch has more cpu power than that robot brain would.
Being Wes Craven and having seen clips of the infamous basketball-head-explosion-death I am hoping for some good deaths in this movie.
Already it's humorours. They literally stick the computer chip in her brain and use some ******** lines to explain how her now cold corpse can come back to life because the chip will re-route around the damaged parts of the brain (ie; all of it? I guess).
Even better, he has a remote control for her brain.
I want slashers to have a resurgence. I'm not a fan of ghost movies and the only good found footage film yet has been Cloverfield and even that's not too great.
it's inevitable. but you can expect that only 2 or 3 of them will be decent; with a crap ton of copycats. that's just how I works; same with found footage and supernatural movies.
It was unintentionally funny. Especially the ending where for those who don't know, [blackout]she turns out to be a robot for no apparent reason and kills the poor guy[/blackout]. That explains a few things in the movie but not how it happened itself.
So I started my 31 Days early, with V/H/S/2 yesterday. Hard for me to rate it as a whole, so I'll rate it on its own:
Wraparound: This story started with promise, running through the whole film, but it kind of fizzled out at the end. I didn't understand why
the girl shot herself, or the other guy shot her, whichever, and yet her partner watches the last tape anyway.
Then it goes on the weird supernatural twist and just fell flat for me. But since it started good, 2/5.
Phase 1 Clinical Trials: This story was alright, I liked the idea, even though it was essentially the same as The Eye. It showed promise and had good effects but
the end just kind of was like "Oh hey, the ghosts can totally effect you now, so they're just going to straight up kill you and this girl you met." No explanation on the ghosts, although I have an idea they were victims involved in the accident that caused him to lose his eye.
Overall, 3/5.
A Ride in the Park: This one seemed to get a lot of crap from others online, but honestly I liked this one. It had little build up and didn't really have a story, but seeing the guy get attacked, and then follow him a she becomes a zombie and attacks others was something we rarely see, especially from the zombie's perspective. It also managed to mix in a little humor which was neat, and I liked that these zombies seemed to be able to retain a little of their personality. Not bad in my opinion, 4/5.
Safe Haven: This one was all over the place for me. It had ok acting, but it had good tension and an intriguing story. It definitely had shades of Silent Hill 3 in it, at least it seemed that way to me. I liked learning about the cult and how they operated, but I felt like we never really got an idea of what they were about. Even at the end when everything goes down,
it seems like they are a suicide cult but later they all return as zombie/demon possessed hosts. And then when they're God, or whatever, was born, I really had no idea what it's purpose was. They were all either dead or possessed, so was it supposed to destroy the world, or just come into existence so they could ascend to their paradise? I was rather confused.
Still, not bad, however the final scene, like literally the last minute of the segment made me facepalm because it was just stupid. 3/5.
Slumber Party Alien Abduction: Honestly, it seemed a lot of people liked this one. I didn't care for it much. It is pretty straight forward, kids having a slumber party watched by their sister and her boyfriend while their parents are away, get attacked and abducted by aliens. The aliens are pretty creepy, the effects are decent, but the acting is horrible. I can forgive bad child actors, but they are really annoying here. Also, the last shot made me really sad as an animal lover. 3/5
Overall, averaged, the film would get a 3/5, and that is pretty much what my overall rating would be. I can't decide if I liked the first better or not. The wraparound on the original I thought was only slightly better, the succubus story was great to me, the Honeymoon one was ok, the one about the static killer was not great, I didn't care for the alien one, and the haunted house one was really great. So I guess overall they were pretty equal to me.
it's inevitable. but you can expect that only 2 or 3 of them will be decent; with a crap ton of copycats. that's just how I works; same with found footage and supernatural movies.
I don't know that we'll ever seen something quite like the 80's slasher craze, but It has made it's resurgence in small burts for the past couple decades. In the 90's we had the "I Know What You Did..." films, and the Scream trilogy, as well as the early 90's films that rounded out most of the major franchises, that then got sequels later in the 90's, including Wes Craven's New Nightmare, and Halloween H20.
The 2000's haven't really had as much if you weren't looking, but we got some: Freddy vs. Jason, Scream 4, Hatchet and Hatchet 2, Halloween Resurrection, Seed and Bride of Chucky, Rob Zombie's Halloween and H2, Jason X, Nightmare and F13 remakes. I'm sure there are more I'm missing but we haven't been without them. Although it is arguable if any of those are good, and personally I only really like the Hatchet films and FvsJ out of those. But they are there.
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