The Horror Thread - Part 3

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And finding a baby then flashing forward 40 years to when she's 18.

In the movie's defense...I believe that this is clear and obvious...D'addario's rockin' body broke the space/time continuum.
 
Watched The Lords of Salem a few days ago. I don't know where to begin.

My wife and I both hated it and I still don't know what the hell that chicken tentacle thing was supposed to be. Satan reborn?

Yeah, I didn't much like it either. It's the only Rob Zombie film I've seen, and I can't see myself wanting to see more. The premise started off intriguing, and there was some suitably creepy stuff done with the soundtrack, but the film soon descended into a hamfisted mash-up of other, better horror movies, like Rosemary's Baby with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer.

I saw it at Frightfest, and the audience were belly-laughing at the penis tentacles. Afterwards I overheard some pretentious hipster types talking about the film's genius and how those laughing at it were intellectual dullards who just didn't understand or appreciate the intricacies of great cinema. I wanted to interrupt the conversation and tell them my problem isn't with smart movies, but with very dumb movies that think they're a lot smarter than they are, and I save my appreciation for the better films Lords of Salem wishes it was like.
 

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Oh lol where would you put it in the TCM franchise.

Texas Chainsaw Massacre(Original)
Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 (With Dennis Hopper. I know it's bad but that's why I like it. C'mon, Hopper wielding two chainsawns!)

Texas Chainsaw(recent one we're talking about)Of course this movie isn't great but neither were the films that followed part 2. One thing that would have made this movie better is if they didn't have the cop searching the house using a cellphone. That's the main thing that shows they screwed up the time gap from the first movie in the 70's to this one. If they would have removed that cellphone bit, you could easily assume this took place in the 90's for the most part.

I haven't seen the earlier sequels after part 2 in quite some time but don't remember liking them.

Texas Chainsaw Massacre Remake. Something about this film rubbed me the wrong way. Probably because it was an actual remake of one of my favorite horror films and not a sequel. Basically a film trying to outdo the original classic...nope! Only part I really liked was that camera shot that starts in the van then pulls back through the hole in the guys head.

I never bothered with the prequel to the remake because I really didn't like the remake. I know people will disagree with me on this next bit but it's silly as hell making a prequel to a god damn remake.


Yeah, I didn't much like it either. It's the only Rob Zombie film I've seen, and I can't see myself wanting to see more. The premise started off intriguing, and there was some suitably creepy stuff done with the soundtrack, but the film soon descended into a hamfisted mash-up of other, better horror movies, like Rosemary's Baby with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer.

I saw it at Frightfest, and the audience were belly-laughing at the penis tentacles. Afterwards I overheard some pretentious hipster types talking about the film's genius and how those laughing at it were intellectual dullards who just didn't understand or appreciate the intricacies of great cinema. I wanted to interrupt the conversation and tell them my problem isn't with smart movies, but with very dumb movies that think they're a lot smarter than they are, and I save my appreciation for the better films Lords of Salem wishes it was like.

I like all types of movies, including ones that a lot of people tend to write off as pretentious but Zombie's film was not high art or intellectual. Those guys were most likely biased Rob Zombie fans who got their panties in a bunch from the people who were laughing at the movie.

His best and in my opinion only great film is The Devil's Rejects. You might need to watch House of 1000 Corpses beforehand since Rejects is a sequel to it. House isn't all that great but still kind of a fun movie. Just like Salem though, it takes a weird turn at the very very end. House is definitely incredibly similar to Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Zombie even said that was his biggest inspiration for the film.
 
You know Rob Zombie actually really doesn't like House of a 1000 Corpses much? There was an interview where he talked about how lots hated it when it came out, and then he made Devil's Rejects, and people loved it and went back to see the first film, calling it a good movie and such, and now he sees tons of flaws in it.

As for the TCM franchise, I'll do a list too.

1. TCM (original)
2. TCM remake
3. TCM 2
4. TCM 3
5. TCM: The Beginning
6. TC 3D
7. TCM: NG

I can see Figs how you'd not be impressed by the remake, seeing as how it is that, remake, but it really has very little in common with the original. The same general idea is there, but it does a lot different, and I hate to be biased, but I actually saw the remake first, then immediately saw the original, and was able to see them as different entities. Its been a long time, I guess it was 2003, because I saw TCM remake opening night. Most of the other sequels are crap, I like TCM 2 because it is a silly sequel and was emant to be that. TCM 3 is overly serious, has some good gore, but otherwise nonsensical.
I didn't hate the TCM The Beginning, I mostly feel R. Lee Eremy saved it. IT bad though, and really failed to follow up on the remake. TC3D, on the other hand, I feel was just awful in so many ways. the ending twist, which really wasn't a twist because the first part of the film spelled it all out, was so bad.

Also, the less said about TCM: Next Gen., the better.
 
I loved all of Zombie's movies. Even El Superbeasto.

Anywho, anybody watch the From Dusk Till Dawn pilot?
 
You know Rob Zombie actually really doesn't like House of a 1000 Corpses much? There was an interview where he talked about how lots hated it when it came out, and then he made Devil's Rejects, and people loved it and went back to see the first film, calling it a good movie and such, and now he sees tons of flaws in it.

As for the TCM franchise, I'll do a list too.

1. TCM (original)
2. TCM remake
3. TCM 2
4. TCM 3
5. TCM: The Beginning
6. TC 3D
7. TCM: NG

I can see Figs how you'd not be impressed by the remake, seeing as how it is that, remake, but it really has very little in common with the original. The same general idea is there, but it does a lot different, and I hate to be biased, but I actually saw the remake first, then immediately saw the original, and was able to see them as different entities. Its been a long time, I guess it was 2003, because I saw TCM remake opening night. Most of the other sequels are crap, I like TCM 2 because it is a silly sequel and was emant to be that. TCM 3 is overly serious, has some good gore, but otherwise nonsensical.
I didn't hate the TCM The Beginning, I mostly feel R. Lee Eremy saved it. IT bad though, and really failed to follow up on the remake. TC3D, on the other hand, I feel was just awful in so many ways. the ending twist, which really wasn't a twist because the first part of the film spelled it all out, was so bad.

Also, the less said about TCM: Next Gen., the better.

To this day, the only Texas Chain Saw Massacre film I've seen is the original. It remains one of my all-time favourite movies, and I don't feel the need to watch any sequel/prequel/remake/sequel or prequel of remake beyond that classic first film.
 
And finding a baby then flashing forward 40 years to when she's 18.

That's what hurt the movie for me. It should've been set in the early 90', with 90's music, "cutting edge technology", etc. The cop's cell phone should have been gray, with a battery that lasts 10 minutes, and be about the size and weight of a cinder block.
 
i loved that episode of Twilight Zone; mostly because they actually "went there" and didn't give the kid a happy ending. he never acted again, strangely.

I've heard several people mention seeing a tall shadowy figure in a wide brimmed hat whenever we talk about witnessing supernatural phenomenon. There were a couple of people on this thread, and an ex-roommate of mine claims to had witnessed it as well. Whenever anyone mentions it, I always think of that Twilight Zone episode. I sometimes wonder if maybe the person who wrote it way back when was inspired to by his/her own experiences with "The Hat Man" (or "The Shadow Man" as he was called on the show).
 
I'm talking about the one that came out last year. The main girl was played by Alexandra Daddario.

i had such hopes for that one. but everything fell apart when Leatherface showed up. they actually tried to make him sympathetic. and i'm not sure why. i just didn't find it scary or suspenseful. and i guess that i was expecting Bryniarski.
 
Thanks, I'll give it a watch soon. What are these real stories supposedly?

Edit: Oh the 80s Twilight Zone. No wonder it didn't stick out to me.

i don't know much about the urban legend. but wiki says that there are a number of similar accounts depicting a shadowy figure trying to suffocate people, at night. it's linked to sleep paralysis.
 
i don't know much about the urban legend. but wiki says that there are a number of similar accounts depicting a shadowy figure trying to suffocate people, at night. it's linked to sleep paralysis.

Ah, I hadn't heard that part. Kinda like an actual Freddy Krueger then. Interesting. Maybe that's why Wes Craven insisted Freddy wear a fedora?
 
Really? Hasn't the horror genre suffered enough? Do we really need another one of these movies further degrading it?

The first one was kinda creepy, I never bothered watching the second one though because I heard it was not very good in comparison. Since sequels inevitably will almost always be inferior to the films that came before it, I have even less desire to see this movie.
 
I saw parts of the first one. I ended up skipping through most of it and the parts I did see did not impress me. I skipped the second entirely and I was hoping that would be the end of it, but nope. Some people will watch anything and others will make a sequel to anything if you give them a nickel and a camcorder.
 
I've also heard about the sleep paralysis stuff. But that doesn't explain why it happens to people who are wide awake!:csad:

Maybe something happens to our consciousness when we experience sleep paralysis. Something that enables us to see all the scary stuff that goes on around us...maybe they're real...OH NO MAYBE THEY ARE DEMONS OR ALIENS FROM ANOTHER DIMENSION!!!:wow: Hurry, hurry! Hide yoursouls inasafeplacetheyarecoming *twitch* We are safe in my basement! Just have to remove all the body parts and urine bottles...:wall:

But seriously, I wonder why so many people see the same thing. A man with a hat...maybe it's a subconcious fear of hipsters. Maybe our ancestors experienced something horrible.

Caveman: "Oh no, there's Ughram again. I can't stand that guy."

Caveman 2: "I know, he's probably going to talk about that stupid neanderthal band nobody has heard about. Let's just pretend we're texting..."

Ughram: "I know you're avoiding me, Fred and Barney...soon, you will pay for it..."

(Years later)

Paleonthologist: "It looks like these guys were murdered... in their sleep!:wow: (dramatic music)"
 
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