The Horror Thread - Part 3

[Loki882]

Never, ever watch the remake. I've seen it and it's absolute crap. Although I have also watched the special features, and thus cannot blame the writers or director for that (studio interference, they always seem to think they know better than the people who are actually making the movie).

And you're right, it was John Carpenter's inspiration for Halloween. It was also the inspiration for When A Stranger Calls.

The only part in the whole movie I did not like was how they left Jess alone in the house at the very end. I can understand why they never checked the attic (It actually is proper police procedure to leave that to the CSI team). But Jess was a pregnant woman who had just fought a life and death struggle against a homicidal maniac! She should've been taken to the damn hospital! Instead they take Claire's father to the hospital, and leave Jess all alone in a crime scene! I'm a security guard, so I know a little more about the law & police procedure than the average person. And while I'm far from an expert, one thing I do know is that the only people allowed inside a crime scene after a crime are the police and the CSI team. Civilians, even those who live there or own the property, cannot enter a crime scene until after the CSI team has cleared it, in order to prevent contaminating evidence (that was the procedure even back in '74, before DNA technology was discovered).

With all the pains they took to make the rest of the police work as realistic as possible, you'd think they'd at least get that right. And it would have been just as creepy if we saw the trap door to the attic open and heard Billy's voice if the house was empty. Maybe have him sing that lullaby he sang after killing Claire instead of saying "Hey Agnes. It's me, Billy."

My dad was a cop for over 30 years (he's retired now) and he called BS on that part to. You ALWAYS take a victim to the hospital, even if they have no signs of being injured, just as a precaution. The cops would also usually wait at the house and keep people out until the CSI guys got there.

 

[Daywalker89]

Ant-manic and thundarr . You have highlighted why this film stands out to me . The killer has no motive Which is just so rare nowhere days and why? because they love to either reboot or make a prequel to get some origins going. It makes it more disturbing for a killer to have no connection to these girls , he's just some ****ed up guy causing havok in a house . Thundarr i heard one of the reasons on why the remake sucked was because they decided to explore billy's origins problay studio interference.

 

[Heretic]

I just insulted The Conjuring for being the same story I've seen in theaters a hundred other times the past few years, and James Wan himself chimed in. LOL

I stand by it...it's a very well done version of the same dang movie that Hollywood craps out over and over again.

 

[Matt Mortem]

I loved The Conjuring. I'm watching it right now as a matter of fact. The story is nothing special whatsoever, but I liked how well it was done. I loved the look of it.

 

[bullets]

I like The Conjuring, Sinister, Woman in Black , and the Innkeepers. Anything else to do with ghosts in the past few years hasn't interested me. I thought Paranormal activity was decent the first time despite the ending but they ran that into the ground. Now we have to deal with lousy copycats and bizarre spinoffs.

 

[Matt Mortem]

I didn't dig the Woman in Black, looking back. I might have enjoyed it a tad when I first back, but thinking back on it, it just didn't do anything for me. Having the titular Woman in Black scream at me got real old, real fast.

 

[Ant-manic]

I didn't dig the Woman in Black, looking back. I might have enjoyed it a tad when I first back, but thinking back on it, it just didn't do anything for me. Having the titular Woman in Black scream at me got real old, real fast.

i felt the same way about the remake. but i actually went in with high expectations. i suspect that growing up in the 80s has unfairly prejudiced me against CGI. eventually, they are going to tell a ghost story that creeps me out. come to think of it, i think the Awakening was a slightly better version of Woman in Black. i enjoyed it more, at least.

 

[Heretic]

Yeah...I did what some may call backtracking when I called it the pinnacle of the modern trend (though I said it was very well done and was complimenting it even before Wan spoke up). However, that is not a backtrack...I think the movie did EVERYTHING right...in telling a story I'm bored to death of seeing. He made the best possible movie, technically speaking, in a sub-genre I'm bored to tears of, and he brought nothing new to the table in the process.

 

[Ant-manic]

My dad was a cop for over 30 years (he's retired now) and he called BS on that part to. You ALWAYS take a victim to the hospital, even if they have no signs of being injured, just as a precaution. The cops would also usually wait at the house and keep people out until the CSI guys got there.

lol. in fairness to Black Christmas, i was pioneering this stuff. and there's plenty of stuff within the slasher genre to call b.s. on. like My Bloody Valentine. just how easy is it to mail organs to people? couldn't a member of law enforcement detain the person handing them this stuff and ask them where they got it? and who exactly faked all of that paperwork for the kids in sleepaway camp? nevermind all of the deaths that they were able to cover up (and the hiring of a pedophile at a children's camp). t:

 

[Ant-manic]

i have a confession. i'm not afraid (not even a little bit) of little pale ghost children with black circles around their eyes. i'm looking at you asian horror and american-asian-horror-ripoffs. at the very least, the ghost should come at you one body part at a time.

 

[Heretic]

But their herky jerky, slow then fast movements are really scary every single time!

 

[Ant-manic]

But their herky jerky, slow then fast movements are really scary every single time!

maybe to you. there's a guy with ADHD in the cubicle across from mine. i'm used to it. he has broken 3 ergonomic chairs from jerking around in his seat (not an exaggeration).

 

[Daywalker89]

But their herky jerky, slow then fast movements are really scary every single time!

Are you talking about Ringu etc because a common technique they used was to film walking motions backwards then in post play it fowards. Just like the scene in the video tape when she climbs out of the well. I might jave a japanese horror session ,there imagery and storytelling are quite unnerving. There's quite a few out there, obviously hollywood got there mits on most of them and ****ed them up

 

[Daywalker89]

I like The Conjuring, Sinister, Woman in Black , and the Innkeepers. Anything else to do with ghosts in the past few years hasn't interested me. I thought Paranormal activity was decent the first time despite the ending but they ran that into the ground. Now we have to deal with lousy copycats and bizarre spinoffs.

Surprised you didn't mention Insidious there, that started off the whole chain of ghost/demon films . Paranormal has turned into the new Saw series gets worse and worse. Speaking of PA i just want to GET RID OF THE ****ING POPUP everytime i look around on this forum THAT PIECE OF **** POPUP makes a unwelcome appearance. Does anyone know how to get rid of it.

 

[Heretic]

maybe to you. there's a guy with ADHD in the cubicle across from mine. i'm used to it. he has broken 3 ergonomic chairs from jerking around in his seat (not an exaggeration).

Sounds terrifying. Add in some black contacts and I'd crap myself on a daily basis.

I'm kidding, by the way.

 

[Piper Maru]

Last night I watched The Entity, this film genuinely scared me.

 

[chamber-music]

I just insulted The Conjuring for being the same story I've seen in theaters a hundred other times the past few years, and James Wan himself chimed in. LOL

I stand by it...it's a very well done version of the same dang movie that Hollywood craps out over and over again.

To be fair the majority of critics and people who liked the movie said it was nothing ground breaking just well made.

They have been making haunted house/possession movies since the dawn of cinema. The Conjuring is just one of the better made versions of that type of movie in recent years.

Hollywood loves jumping on a popular bandwagon especially in the horror genre in which movies are cheap to make so if they are successful the filmmakers get huge returns which is why you get so many Horror sequels and knock offs.

The slasher genre had every last drop of blood mined from it in the late 70s and though out the 80s with little originality in the hundreds of different films.

Last night I watched The Entity, this film genuinely scared me.

That film is messed up

 

[Daywalker89]

Last night I watched The Entity, this film genuinely scared me.

That rape music makes me lool good film though

 

[Heretic]

To be fair the majority of critics and people who liked the movie said it was nothing ground breaking just well made.

They have been making haunted house/possession movies since the dawn of cinema. The Conjuring is just one of the better made versions of that type of movie in recent years.

Hollywood loves jumping on a popular bandwagon especially in the horror genre in which movies are cheap to make so if they are successful the filmmakers get huge returns which is why you get so many Horror sequels and knock offs.

The slasher genre had every last drop of blood mined from it in the late 70s and though out the 80s with little originality in the hundreds of different films.

That film is messed up

I agree. The Slasher genre was a couple of great films and a lot of needless knock-offs. I tend to think that when you make a movie, you should have some point...some reason for existing aside from "we're going to do what other people have already done!" If you can't do that, then rethink your idea a bit until you are bringing SOMETHING new to the table.

 

[redhawk23]

The Conjuring did bring some decent acting that had been greatly missing from the genre for the better part of a decade or so.

Overall its just really well crafted. Even that first teaser with just the hide and seek leading up to the handclapp pretty much worked as its own short.


Side note: The Saw sequels are a damn shame in that they really obscure the fact that the first Saw is actually a pretty good, small film that is actually nowhere near as focused upon gore as people seem to remember.

 

[Figs]

The Conjuring did bring some decent acting that had been greatly missing from the genre for the better part of a decade or so.

Overall its just really well crafted. Even that first teaser with just the hide and seek leading up to the handclapp pretty much worked as its own short.


Side note: The Saw sequels are a damn shame in that they really obscure the fact that the first Saw is actually a pretty good, small film that is actually nowhere near as focused upon gore as people seem to remember.

I agree with everything here. Especially about the first Saw film. I liked it because it was twisted in a psychological way and not just about the writers coming up with new torture methods to gross out the audience.

 

[the last son]

Can anyone suggest a really scary/creepy horror movie?

 

[Rocketman]

Can anyone suggest a really scary/creepy horror movie?

Believe it or not, The Amityville Horror from 2005 (Ryan Reynolds) has its moments and then some. I think most people reject it and are "offended" by it because it's a remake of a classic and you don't remake classics (yada yada yada), but if you ignore that it's a remake and watch it as its own movie, it's actually a VERY solid flick. And this term is thrown around like a baseball all the time, but it truly is underrated.

 

[StarLord]

Plus, it's a rarity that you can actually see a good performance from Reynolds.

 

[the last son]

I saw that movie when it first came out and thought it was really good. It isn't aging well though. The acting seems to get worse each time I watch it. I always thought Reynolds did the best performance and he was decent for the most part, but just thinking back, I feel Melissa George might have been the best acting wise. Still, a solid flick. 7/10.