The Horror Thread - Part 6

[NotSoLongAgo]

Is pumpkinhead still on netflix?

 

[Muze]

I've never seen Curse of Chucky... is that worthwhile?

The last Chucky film I saw was Seed of Chucky and that film was atrocious.

make sure to stay pass the credits

 

[NewYorkSpider]

make sure to stay pass the credits

I just watched the film last year and had no idea there was an after credits scene!

 

[ehh]

You guys got me excited for it. I'll definitely check it out and watch the post credits.

 

[Muze]

I just watched the film last year and had no idea there was an after credits scene!

maybe it wasn't after the credits. it's been a while since I watched it. did you happen to see

Spoiler

the return of grown up Andy

?

 

[Loki882]

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Also I'm pretty sure that there's a reference to Det. Mike Norris from the original film as well. There's also a picture of Kyle from the second film sitting on a stand in Andy's house.

 

[Wildcard]

Spoiler

My question is: how does Chucky come back after that scene? Andy's not gonna stop at just blowing his head off, he's gonna disassemble and destroy the pieces completely.

 

[Loki882]

Spoiler

Well being shot, burned alive, ripped apart, thrown off things, crashing into things, crashing through things, melted, etc never stopped him from coming back before. The writing gods demand it, and so it shall be

 

[Wildcard]

Spoiler

That's not necessarily my point. It was nice to see Andy but it should've been handled differently...Andy wouldn't leave anything of Chucky for him to come back is my point. In being the guy who did the worst to Chucky only to have him come back, logically there's no reason Chucky would even be able to because Any would make sure there's nothing even left of him to return.

 

[Muze]

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That's not necessarily my point. It was nice to see Andy but it should've been handled differently...Andy wouldn't leave anything of Chucky for him to come back is my point. In being the guy who did the worst to Chucky only to have him come back, logically there's no reason Chucky would even be able to because Any would make sure there's nothing even left of him to return.

that just makes it

Spoiler

a Halloween H2O situation. me, I consider that to be end of Michael Myers. Laurie chopped his head off. Curse of Chucky was the end of that character, in my head. but, yeah, Andy is going to make it count. but maybe he slips and hits his head before he's able to finish things. maybe the cops, hearing the gunshot, bust the door down and shoot him. maybe Chucky had insurance. maybe the thorn cult finds his remains and resurrects him.

 

[The Joker]

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Also I'm pretty sure that there's a reference to Det. Mike Norris from the original film as well. There's also a picture of Kyle from the second film sitting on a stand in Andy's house.

Spoiler

There's references to the first three movies there. There's the photo of Andy and his Mom from the first movie. There's a photo of Kyle. Then there's a framed certificate from the military academy in the third movie.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

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I kind of wonder if they'll retcon the after credits scene, since some people seem to have missed it anyway. Or else, instead of a Halloween H20 situation, we get a Resurrection situation where they wrap up Andy in 15 minutes and move on to whatever else.

 

[Loki882]

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Oh dear lord please let it not be as awful as Resurrection was.

 

[Mandon Knight]

Was thinking last night, how much I'd love to see a 'proper' Freddy Kruger (pre-burning) prequel, appreciate we've had 'snippets' of back story over the previous films but I'd like a full film focusing on him as the lead up prior to being trapped in the warehouse and burnt by the parents. What triggered his killings and beliefs etc.

 

[Muze]

Was thinking last night, how much I'd love to see a 'proper' Freddy Kruger (pre-burning) prequel, appreciate we've had 'snippets' of back story over the previous films but I'd like a full film focusing on him as the lead up prior to being trapped in the warehouse and burnt by the parents. What triggered his killings and beliefs etc.

to be honest, that just doesn't sound all that exciting to me. his gimmick is invading dreams and exploiting the "anything goes" nature of the dreamscape. otherwise, he's just a killer who (for some odd reason) prefers to use a glove decorated with knives. Freddy's Dead does touch upon his motivations. his mother abandoned him. his father, Alice Cooper, was an abusive drunk. otherwise though, Freddy was also just a bad seed who enjoyed torturing small animals; until he upgraded to children.

 

[BH/HHH]

Was thinking last night, how much I'd love to see a 'proper' Freddy Kruger (pre-burning) prequel, appreciate we've had 'snippets' of back story over the previous films but I'd like a full film focusing on him as the lead up prior to being trapped in the warehouse and burnt by the parents. What triggered his killings and beliefs etc.

I'd love some sort of prequel, maybe as a mini series on TV but tbh I don't want them revealing his motivations and such. I think I'd just like them to do the story of what led to the burning, I know it's been touched on a lot in the films but it could make for an interesting movie or mini series.

 

[ehh]

I wish James Wan was around for more Conjuring films, but I guess he is devoted to Aquaman now.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

I'd love some sort of prequel, maybe as a mini series on TV but tbh I don't want them revealing his motivations and such. I think I'd just like them to do the story of what led to the burning, I know it's been touched on a lot in the films but it could make for an interesting movie or mini series.

Are you familiar with the Freddy's Nightmares TV series? While hard to find, (it does air on certain networks now if I remember), there was an episode called No More Mr. Nice Guy. It was basically Freddy's Origin, minus the Dream Deom stuff introduced in Freddy's Dead. Is it good?...it's ok. It's directed by Tobe Hooper, and it really keeps Englund as Freddy in the shadows. It does come off kind of cheesy, like Freddy driving around in an ice cream truck, and the technicality he is freed on being as simple as the cop who catches him fails to read him his rights. And the courtroom scene is pretty bizarre.

Still, it's worth a look, because besides the little bits in the films, its the closest you'll get to a full origin story on film.

 

[Loki882]

I actually brought up the idea of a Freddy movie focusing on his days as the Springewood Slasher here a few years ago. And someone here informed me that they'd actually talked to Robert Englund at a con about a film like that. Englund had said that he'd be all for doing it, and that there were talks about doing one, but the deal just never came together ultimately.

Also you wouldn't have to delve into his motivations specifically much. It's just a movie about his life as a serial killer, that's all.

 

[Loki882]

Are you familiar with the Freddy's Nightmares TV series? While hard to find, (it does air on certain networks now if I remember), there was an episode called No More Mr. Nice Guy. It was basically Freddy's Origin, minus the Dream Deom stuff introduced in Freddy's Dead. Is it good?...it's ok. It's directed by Tobe Hooper, and it really keeps Englund as Freddy in the shadows. It does come off kind of cheesy, like Freddy driving around in an ice cream truck, and the technicality he is freed on being as simple as the cop who catches him fails to read him his rights. And the courtroom scene is pretty bizarre.

Still, it's worth a look, because besides the little bits in the films, its the closest you'll get to a full origin story on film.

That also contradicts the original movie because there, Nancy's mom says that Freddy was let go because someone didn't sign the search warrant that they executed on him in the right place).

 

[TheDreamMaster]

I actually brought up the idea of a Freddy movie focusing on his days as the Springewood Slasher here a few years ago. And someone here informed me that they'd actually talked to Robert Englund at a con about a film like that. Englund had said that he'd be all for doing it, and that there were talks about doing one, but the deal just never came together ultimately.

Also you wouldn't have to delve into his motivations specifically much. It's just a movie about his life as a serial killer, that's all.

That also contradicts the original movie because there, Nancy's mom says that Freddy was let go because someone didn't sign the search warrant that they executed on him in the right place).

There was a rumor if I recall, Elm Street: The First Murders, that made the rounds years ago, sometime after Freddy vs. Jason, like 2004 or 2005, right around when they also were trying to do Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash. There was actual news about it happening for a little while, and then it all sort of vanished and the remake went into production instead.

As for the contradiction, yeah, it does. Still, it's about the best we've got overall. I actually own the episode on VHS, but since my VHS player died a while ago, it doesn't do me any good.

On other horror, picked up Lights Out and Annabelle last night for $7 each on Blu Ray at Best Buy. Also picked up Eli Roth's Clown for $4 at Walmart.

 

[Wildcard]

to be honest, that just doesn't sound all that exciting to me. his gimmick is invading dreams and exploiting the "anything goes" nature of the dreamscape. otherwise, he's just a killer who (for some odd reason) prefers to use a glove decorated with knives. Freddy's Dead does touch upon his motivations. his mother abandoned him. his father, Alice Cooper, was an abusive drunk. otherwise though, Freddy was also just a bad seed who enjoyed torturing small animals; until he upgraded to children.

I agree, I don't think we need an in-depth prequel on Freddy before he became an invader of dreams. Speaking of Freddy's Dead, what a spectacular way to completely ruin a character. You go from this great mystery surrounding how he got his powers to learning these "Dream People" (as Freddy himself calls it ) approach him before he's barbecued. He gets their powers....and still gets burnt to death. WTF?

But anyway, the Robert Englund as Freddy ship has long since sailed. Whenever Freddy reappears, we need a new actor that's not Englund....or Jackie Earle Haley.

 

[BH/HHH]

I think Krueger needs a reinvention, that fan film The Confession of Fred Krueger did a brilliant job of reinventing him yet he still felt like Freddy.

 

[ehh]

I'm probably one of the few that really enjoyed Blair Witch (2016).

 

[redhawk23]

I'm probably one of the few that really enjoyed Blair Witch (2016).

I thought towards the middle it relied too much on on, GLITCH-LOUD-NOISE! but overall I quite liked the film. It was obviously a much more scripted film than the original but I think just re-doing what the original did would have been a bad move.

The first half of the film actually had some solid humor and character work.

Mostly, as a big fan of not just the original but a lot of the surrounding secondary materials, I enjoyed how much of that deep cut stuff was directly referenced in the film and how much the last 3rd contributed towards building on all of that stuff (Rustin Parr, the nature of the house) and putting it in a different context.

I liked the time dialation stuff a lot.