The Incredible Hulk - What went wrong?

[SFII]

Maybe I'm not overanalyzing or not suspending my imagination, but when Tony Stark showed up at the end of the movie, did anyone else think:

"Hey, how come Iron Man didn't save the hundreds of people who fell victim to the destruction caused by the Hulk and Abomination? I mean isn't that his job?"

no it's not his job.
besides, Stark lives in Los Angeles. Hulk and Abomination fought in New York. i would've thought Spider-Man or the X-Men would've shown up before Iron Man ever would.
Ross went to Stark for help because Stark has ties with the military. and now Ross realizes he needs more help than the military can handle, because The Hulk is so damn powerful.

 

[Syncos]

I'm not sure where else to post this so I choose here.

Maybe I'm not overanalyzing or not suspending my imagination, but when Tony Stark showed up at the end of the movie, did anyone else think:

"Hey, how come Iron Man didn't save the hundreds of people who fell victim to the destruction caused by the Hulk and Abomination? I mean isn't that his job?"

I haven't really started getting into super heros until recently, and have never really read comics, but I still felt thought that made the whole Stark scene a bit silly...

I don't know too much about crossovers. but wouldn't tony get his ass handed to him without hulkbuster armor?

 

[honest george]

"Hey, how come Iron Man didn't save the hundreds of people who fell victim to the destruction caused by the Hulk and Abomination?

Because it was a Hulk movie, not an Iron Man movie.

 

[Agent 194]

I don't know that anything did go wrong with the movie. I'm happy that critics are saying good things and I hope it continues to make money.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Because it was a Hulk movie, not an Iron Man movie.

Exactly.

 

[charl_huntress]

The only thing I think went wrong was the "sudden" rain after a clear sunny day when Hulk was at the campus. I mean c'mon...it was sunny one moment and then pouring rain and cloudy the next.

 

[CGHulk]

Question: What went wrong?
Answer: The CGI was bad enough to turn off the general movie going audience.

That's what I've been thinking!

 

[honest george]

Someone else posted that maybe this is as good as a Hulk movie can do. It's a movie about a big green monster, what more is there? Hulk fans have had a serious, more cerebral story and an action packed comic book version; that's the two ends of the spectrum. The Hulk may have given us all it's got.

 

[Hmarrs]

Someone else posted that maybe this is as good as a Hulk movie can do. It's a movie about a big green monster, what more is there? Hulk fans have had a serious, more cerebral story and an action packed comic book version; that's the two ends of the spectrum. The Hulk may have given us all it's got.

All except a good balance in the middle.

 

[dark_b]

i dont think the CGI was a factor.

 

[honest george]

i dont think the CGI was a factor.

It's difficult to "wow" people with CGI anymore, people are so used to it now. I think the marketing didn't do enough to communicate to people this was a different storyline than the first; which kills me because I still prefer the first one.

 

[hame4479]

They cut out 5 minutes of the end fight scene and then lied about it before the movie came out.

 

[Doright]

The only thing I think went wrong was the "sudden" rain after a clear sunny day when Hulk was at the campus. I mean c'mon...it was sunny one moment and then pouring rain and cloudy the next.

The rain didn't come until after Hulk ran away with Betty.. They ran from the campus into the mountains to hide which could have been many many miles. 100's even. Plus Strong cold fronts can bring clouds and thunder to a clear sky in a hurry. Happens all the time..

 

[Obi-Ron]

There is also the matter of the storm clouds gathering over the college when B&B first get there.

 

[Darknightnomis]

It came out to close to Iron Man.

Let's face it they should had it come out after Dark Knight.

 

[Obi Wan Kenobi]

Again I'll repeat, ANG LEE ruined the big screen Hulk for about the next 20 years or so.

"Still, the dark original so turned off the Hulk character's fanboy base as to require a complete reworking of its big-screen rendering before a film franchise could be christened."

Not only did he turn the fanboy base off but Lee scared the hell out of general audiences who don't follow the Hulk but were eagerly interested & excited about the Hulk in 2003. Those people just didn't come to the theater in 2008 because the 2003 film was so bad. When the fanboy base spreads word of mouth to general audiences that the movie sucked, this is the result.

Its like going out on a date with a beautiful chick for the first time. You're going to pick this beautiful girl up and you're all excited about hooking up with her for the night. After about a hour she starts to burp, fart, pick her nose & tell you about her crazy ass family. 5 years later a mutual friend of you both sees you & tells you she moved out of her parents place & cleaned up her act. Would you still be interested?

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/va/20080709/121559147200.html

 

[Evil Twin]

If Ang Lee turned off the public so much, how come TIH opened in the same ballpark as Hulk? And how come the week to week drops were relatively steep? Wasn't WOM supposed to cure that?

I think the Lee film had some effect, but I think it's also obvious that the Hulk is simply a mid-tier comic book franchise with a similar level of interest as Fantastic Four. More smashing isn't necessarily the solution to that problem.

 

[Chewy]

If Ang Lee turned off the public so much, how come TIH opened in the same ballpark as Hulk? And how come the week to week drops were relatively steep? Wasn't WOM supposed to cure that?

I think the Lee film had some effect, but I think it's also obvious that the Hulk is simply a mid-tier comic book franchise with a similar level of interest as Fantastic Four. More smashing isn't necessarily the solution to that problem.

Because the people who were going to see it anyway (the kind of people who saw F42: fanboys and the ilk) went out and saw it in the first weekend anyway. The general public for the most part hasn't been bothered to see the film at all, first weekend or otherwise. WOM means nothing when people aren't going to see it either way.

(I do agree with your second paragraph, but I would have also placed Iron Man in that group before his movie. With the proper hype behind the film, a Hulk film could be big, too.)

 

[honest george]

Somthing interesting...

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/hulkfan1.jpg

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/hulkfan2.jpg

Anyone think these would have made better Hulk models for the film??

 

[November Rain]

I would say that tony was in a different city and hence it wasn't his problem but considering he flew half way round the world and back in a couple of hours in his film, i really don't think he has much of an excuse...

unless his suit needed repairing so fair doos...

 

[solidsnake86]

After seeing stuff for hellboy 2 in terms of make-up and effects I have to say it would have been interesting to see if they had gone with practical suits for the hulk and abomination b/c i really think that the CG characters (I think they look spectacular) end up hurting the film with the GA.

 

[TheVileOne]

One thing I thought was weird was when there was this fluff piece on Attack of the Show with Moriarty after the opening weekend. And it was a good opening weekend yeah, but it was also kind of like the movie opened less than the first one did in 2003. Reviews weren't THAT great. And it had really steep dropoffs similar to the first movie. So its kind of like . . . why the premature celebration?

I think a teaser trailer, even if it was just a logo thing or just a brief clip in 2007 could've helped a lot. People did not know the movie was coming. And when they did, it was like the summer movie season had already started.

 

[kyuubijavi1]

It came out to close to Iron Man.

Let's face it they should had it come out after Dark Knight.

I think it should of came out next year, would of given them time to fix up the cgi or they could of released the film after TDK like around October it would of dominated and they've could of used the extended version cause its kinda obvious Marvel cut the movie so it would be more of a summer blockbuster.

But I'm looking forward to the DVD and hope theres a sequal other than Avengers

 

[TheVileOne]

I don't think those were options because with the deal I think Marvel is obligated to doing two big studio movies over the summer every year. Nothing next year but that's because the strike derailed everything.

I mean, I think the holiday season should be taken more advantage of when you look at certain blockbusters and things like The Incredibles. But merchandise and all that .

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

One thing I thought was weird was when there was this fluff piece on Attack of the Show with Moriarty after the opening weekend. And it was a good opening weekend yeah, but it was also kind of like the movie opened less than the first one did in 2003. Reviews weren't THAT great. And it had really steep dropoffs similar to the first movie. So its kind of like . . . why the premature celebration?

I think a teaser trailer, even if it was just a logo thing or just a brief clip in 2007 could've helped a lot. People did not know the movie was coming. And when they did, it was like the summer movie season had already started.

I argee with that statement. After mulling it over I just can't figure how this one isn't anyless unsuccessful than the first one boxoffice wise?