Daredevil The Inevitable Costume Thread

[The Question]

Writer for Daredevil, Ann Nocenti, is known for her left wing views and certainly expressed them in Daredevil (although not the extent she is often criticized). She had Daredevil battle rich vs. poor on a couple times (usually against evil corporations). The first, Kelco, was owned by the Kingpin. Still, even then, I don't think the Kingpin himself ever came out as being the symbol of the rich vs. the poor.

I mean, he's a rich guy who ****s all over poor people. That's not a symbol, true, because it's entirely literal.

 

[The Question]

Okay, full disclosure: In addition to my fervent belief that costumes should be about embodying the character and themes first and looking cool second, I also think that a cheaper, homemade costume that incorporates gymnastic and boxing gear is just more visually interesting and, yes, cool looking. All of those little details and technical imperfections make it, to me, a feast for the eyes, and imbues it with so much character. Something sleek and polished would be meh to me. I crave that kind of detailing.

 

[Mike Murdock]

See, I think clutter is just clutter rather than making it visually interesting. I think it's the problem I have with some of Batman's kevlar suits in the movies. I feel like it's adding crap for the sake of adding crap.

 

[The Question]

See, I think clutter is just clutter rather than making it visually interesting. I think it's the problem I have with some of Batman's kevlar suits in the movies. I feel like it's adding crap for the sake of adding crap.

It's only adding crap for the sake of adding crap if none of the decisions are deliberate or have a purpose. I can't speak for Batman's costumes in the film, mostly because it's off the topic, but I don't think you can call the picture that started this conversation "adding crap for the sake of adding crap." Every detail had a purpose. Every detail works to embody the character and his role in the narrative. Every detail in that design works to tie him back to his father, his nature as a gymnast, his connect to the boxer archetype, or his poor working class upbringing. Every detail is doing work, and that's what makes a great design.

If it were just a bunch of frills for no reason, I'd agree with you, but a costume with tons of little details that do the work of embodying the character, I love that ****.

 

[Huddsy]

1: I'm not sure that matters. I was just stating what I would like to see happen. Is that against the rules?

2: Would you care to elaborate on that, please?

I think it totally depends on what you mean, but I really don't want something cheap looking.

The picture that was posted of McGuire in the first suit he made (the wrestling scene) is what I envision when you discuss homemade and Murdock being blind.

And that would just turn me and a lot of people right off.

 

[Huddsy]

Okay, full disclosure: In addition to my fervent belief that costumes should be about embodying the character and themes first and looking cool second, I also think that a cheaper, homemade costume that incorporates gymnastic and boxing gear is just more visually interesting and, yes, cool looking. All of those little details and technical imperfections make it, to me, a feast for the eyes, and imbues it with so much character. Something sleek and polished would be meh to me. I crave that kind of detailing.

Do you prefer Cap running around in WW2 gear or his Winter Soldier Stealth get up?

 

[The Question]

I think it totally depends on what you mean, but I really don't want something cheap looking.

The picture that was posted of McGuire in the first suit he made (the wrestling scene) is what I envision when you discuss homemade and Murdock being blind.

And that would just turn me and a lot of people right off.

Well, I think I've explained when I meant in the thread so far, but for starters, I think the costume should still have the basic design elements of the classic costume.

Do you prefer Cap running around in WW2 gear or his Winter Soldier Stealth get up?

I like them both. They both embody what the character is and is going through in that moment in the story.

 

[harryoscop]

I always liked how they integrated a boxing/athletic gear into this costume.

This! don't worry guys MS never disappoints. at least in the costume category.

 

[harryoscop]

Here's my suit concept. I've been working on this for quite a while. Hope you guys like it!

This!! I want this! terrific work!

 

[VulcanVader]

Do we know if Meinerding or Wen are behind this at all?

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I wouldn't be surprised, they've been behind all the other MS projects.

 

[B:TAS]

What do you all want to see from the billy clubs?

 

[niteowl3]

I think it is important that it looks homemade. Realism is no always super important but it is annoying when movies/TV shows just gloss over the making of the costume (No way Peter Parker just "made" his suit from his super sewing abilities and access to expensive cloth). Especially since he is blind it makes it all the more interesting how he would decide to make it. Screw everyone who wants it to armored and tactile. I love the Comic books where it is just an red, form fitting suit. It's way more believable that it be simplistic. Unless Stick presents him with some kind of warriors uniform he is gonna make it by himself, and I find it harder to picture Matt Murdock sewing some elaborate suit in his room even more than i do with Peter Parker.

 

[s_mikheidze]

I think it is important that it looks homemade. Realism is no always super important but it is annoying when movies/TV shows just gloss over the making of the costume (No way Peter Parker just "made" his suit from his super sewing abilities and access to expensive cloth). Especially since he is blind it makes it all the more interesting how he would decide to make it. Screw everyone who wants it to armored and tactile. I love the Comic books where it is just an red, form fitting suit. It's way more believable that it be simplistic. Unless Stick presents him with some kind of warriors uniform he is gonna make it by himself, and I find it harder to picture Matt Murdock sewing some elaborate suit in his room even more than i do with Peter Parker.

in the comics, all of Matt's suits (the red ones) are made by Melvin Potter. I know that he was shown to have made his armored suit, but his iconic red suit was typically put together by Mr. Potter. That could be an interesting option for the show as Melvin is also one of DD's main foes, the Gladiator.

 

[Gr0oT]

Yeah, none of that please. I hate it when Daredevil's radar is over the top. If it's too powerful, then it completely defeats the point of having a blind superhero in the first place.

Like when he could locate a guy in crowded New York, miles away, based on the sound of his chronic cough.

I like the yellow and black rugged costume as well but would like to see it then evolve to his mainstream costume.

 

[Dark Raven]

in the comics, all of Matt's suits (the red ones) are made by Melvin Potter. I know that he was shown to have made his armored suit, but his iconic red suit was typically put together by Mr. Potter. That could be an interesting option for the show as Melvin is also one of DD's main foes, the Gladiator.

Not before. DD fought Gladiator several times in the 1960s during Marvel's bronze age while wearing his classic red costume. Potter didn't do any of Matt's tailoring for him whatsoever.

 

[Gr0oT]

As for the costume a few pages back that The Question finds great I think we need to keep in mind that it is art and obviously looks good but translated to live action would look like something out of Super or Kick-Ass.

 

[VulcanVader]

Do we know if Meinerding or Wen are behind this at all?

This may indicate that maybe not:

All fans who participate in this signing will also receive an exclusive "Marvel's Daredevil" production concept art poster, drawn by Marvel Chief Creative Officer and legendary artist Joe Quesada.

 

[Shazam]

You just know he'll have a trenchcoat and combat boots to be "realistic"........

 

[Mindreaper21]

TV costumes always suck unfortunately.

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

You just know he'll have a trenchcoat and combat boots to be "realistic"........

I smell a lawsuit coming if I see a trenchcoat on DD.

 

[Gr0oT]

TV costumes always suck unfortunately.

Good thing Netflix isn't TV.

 

[metaphysician]

TV costumes always suck unfortunately.

Fortunately, its not a TV show. Its Netflix, which really isn't the same thing.

 

[Mindreaper21]

Good thing Netflix isn't TV.

Fortunately, its not a TV show. Its Netflix, which really isn't the same thing.

True, but I haven't seen anything developed by Netflix that would come close to making a superhero suit. There's a possibility this suit could be great and set a new standard for superhero shows. Hopefully, that happens.

As for how I want the suit to look, I think it would look cool if the suit were made out of a stretchy denim fabric with the logo in rubber.

 

[Gr0oT]

True, but I haven't seen anything developed by Netflix that would come close to making a superhero suit. There's a possibility this suit could be great and set a new standard for superhero shows. Hopefully, that happens.

As for how I want the suit to look, I think it would look cool if the suit were made out of a stretchy denim fabric with the logo in rubber.

I was also disappointed that superhero costumes did not find their way into Orange is the new Black or House of Cards.