The Iran Thread

[Marx]

Oh my...

 

[VampElvis]

IRAN'S TOP CLERIC DENOUNCES ELECTION RESULTS
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/13/iran-demonstrations-viole_n_215189.html

This is not the THE top guy; he's more like the Senior Dissident Cleric, right?
I don't think he even hold an office, elected or appointed - though about this I'm not as sure. Still he's supposedly a man of influence so maybe he's words will carry weight.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

That cleric can say what ever he wants, but the Ayatollah is the one who has supreme and absolute control.

 

[Marx]

IRAN BANS INTERNATIONAL COVERAGE OF RALLIES
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/06/16/iran.elections.protests/index.html

Supporters of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his main political rival attended demonstrations at separate locations in Tehran on Tuesdayin the wake of last week's disputed presidential election.

While pro-Ahmadinejad crowds descended on Vali Asr Square in central Tehran, Mir Hossein Moussavi urged his own supporters to cancel their plans to rally at the square after mass protests a day earlier in which seven people were reportedly killed.

Instead, his supporters gathered at a different location in Tehran, according to video footage of the rally.

Iran's government banned international journalists from covering election rallies Tuesday and blocked access to some online communication tools.

Reporters for international news outlets, including CNN, could talk about the rallies in their live reports but were not allowed to leave their hotel rooms and offices.

The decision was an apparent reaction to video showing violence at recent demonstrations in support of Moussavi, who is disputing the results of Friday's presidential election.

Iran's government has criticized some of that coverage and the images, describing them as biased.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Biased my ass.

 

[Grievous]

Wait, what are you arguing exactly?



That article only begins to scratch the surface. If Khamenei sees a threat in the council of high clerics he'll just persecute them like he has this past weekend placing many of them under house arrest. His investigation will be just as corrupt as the vote count. I agree with the last paragraph completely though!

that the way their police is dealing with these rallys would only make me more violent instead of coming to order. If they can't even pick a new leader without rallys that say the election was unfair and police using violence at them then I don't see Iran getting far.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

IRAN'S TOP CLERIC DENOUNCES ELECTION RESULTS
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/13/iran-demonstrations-viole_n_215189.html

This is actually not that surprising given the he had a falling out with Khomeini in '89 after having been a supporter of the Islamic Revolution.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

This is not the THE top guy; he's more like the Senior Dissident Cleric, right?
I don't think he even hold an office, elected or appointed - though about this I'm not as sure. Still he's supposedly a man of influence so maybe he's words will carry weight.

He is the senior religious leader as in religious leader but as you rightly state he holds no office currently even though he still has some influence.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

I am contending not of the what if in the past (nor am I trying to justify it), but the what of now.

An honest question is, would a stable Democracy work now? The things I hear and the feeling get is, no. I think the demographic and generational shift won't allow it.

That is actually a very good question and something which not many have an aswer to. I would just say the Iranian people were one of the mostr advanced people of the middle east and they should be able to evolve into a democracy at some point.

 

[VampElvis]

Now their threatening dissent with the death penalty. Way to go Iran!

Security forces arrested a pro-reform activist and an editor on Wednesday while a provincial prosecutor warned that those causing unrest faced the death penalty

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE55F54520090617?sp=true

 

[Marx]

Now their threatening dissent with the death penalty. Way to go Iran!


http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE55F54520090617?sp=true

:facepalm

 

[Ahura Mazda]

I hope they make it even worse and maybe there will be a very small chance to see something more then a selection of a puppet president.

 

[Marx]

IRAN OPPOSITION DEFIANT AS MEDIA GRIP TIGHTENED
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/06/17/iran.elections.rallies/index.html

Iran's opposition Wednesday pledged to continue protests over disputed presidential elections as authorities tightened controls on media, threatening Web sites reporting on the country's worst crisis for decades.

Opposition leader Mir Hossein Moussavi, who claims last week's re-election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was rigged, called on his supporters to join him on the streets of Tehran Thursday in the latest in a series of demonstrations.

Meanwhile, the country's powerful Revolutionary Guard -- which enforces strict Islamic codes -- said it will prosecute Web sites it accuses of inciting riots, adding to a ban on foreign media reporting on the protests and a block on Internet site such as Facebook or Twitter.

Even as the Guard made its announcement, thousands of Iranians planned to head to Haft-e-Tir Square in central Tehran on Wednesday evening despite a stepped-up government crackdown that has seen people arrested across the country.

 

[Marx]

MCCAIN AGAIN PANS PRESIDENT'S IRAN RESPONSE
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/06/17/mccain-again-pans-presidents-iran-response/

Sen. John McCain told CNN Wednesday President Obama's statement that he doesn't want to meddle in the Iranian election controversy sends the wrong message.

"On this issue, I do not believe that the president is taking a leadership that is incumbent upon an American president, which we have throughout modern history, and that is to advocate for human rights and freedom — and free elections are one of those fundamentals," the Arizona Republican told John Roberts on CNN's American Morning.

President Obama Tuesday said that he has deep concerns over the election results in Iran, but stressed that "it's not productive, given the history of U.S.-Iranian relations, to be seen as meddling, the U.S. president meddling in Iranian elections."

McCain disputed that assessment. "We're not meddling in any country's affairs when we call for free and fair elections and the ability of people to exercise their human rights," he said Monday. "And when they disagree with a flawed or corrupt election, as the Iranian people have, [not] to be beaten and even killed in the streets."

 

[chaseter]

And Iran, Iran so far away. I just Iran, Iran all night and day. Could not get away.

 

[VampElvis]

And Iran, Iran so far away. I just Iran, Iran all night and day. Could not get away.

With they hair in your avatar, I'm sure you could nott:

 

[Asteroid-Man]

A Canadian Web-Tool is being launched for the Iranians to use for full internet access. It was in the paper.

 

[The Lizard]

Here's the now-popular video of an Iranian woman kicking at riot police to stop them from beating on people before the jackasses team up on her...



Bravo to that woman for her metaphorical balls of ****ing steel.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

By the way Asteroid Man, I like your avatar very much. The old symbol was so much greater then the current symbol on the flag today.

I must say, for someone who has been raised almost his whole life outside of Iran, the images I see really give me emotions which I never did expect.

I hope this is a revolution but I doubt it because I do not want to feel optimistic about it.

 

[Marx]

Here's the now-popular video of an Iranian woman kicking at riot police to stop them from beating on people before the jackasses team up on her...



Bravo to that woman for her metaphorical balls of ****ing steel.

Wow...

 

[Marx]

Did anyone see the Iranian soccer team wearing green in their world cup qualifying match?

 

[StorminNorman]

They better stay in South Korea.

 

[Grievous]

Here's the now-popular video of an Iranian woman kicking at riot police to stop them from beating on people before the jackasses team up on her...



Bravo to that woman for her metaphorical balls of ****ing steel.

more proff that Iran has to use hard violence to keep the streets under control, and it's over a election! Anything bigger would prob lead to a civil war.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I think that the way it is right now that they barely have the streets under control.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

They better stay in South Korea.

And what's going to happen to their families at home.