The Iran Thread

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[Backdrifter]

here's another article i found about an upcoming episode of 60 minutes where there's a story about a high-ranking cia agent who blasts bush for cherry-picking intelligence to make a case for war with iraq.



http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/21/60minutes/main1527749.shtml

Sickening is it not? Makes you wonder what else they have been lying about.

 

[sinewave]

Sickening is it not? Makes you wonder what else they have been lying about.

i'm just happy that the truth is finally coming out. now there's no way people can claim that it was solely the cia's fault.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

iran's pres is a pansy who can stick it. I can say that cuz I am persian wiat a minute, am I the only canadian born, persian on this thread?

 

[GothicPowerMix1]

A top Kremlin diplomat warned against threatening Iran with sanctions or the use of force, saying that would only aggravate the international standoff over Tehran's suspect nuclear program, Russian media reports said Saturday.

Rather than getting Iran to stop uranium enrichment, a tougher stance could result in Tehran's total refusal to cooperate with the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency, said Oleg Ozerov, deputy director of the Foreign Ministry's Middle East and North Africa Department, according to ITAR-Tass.

"We firmly stand today for resolving the problems in and around Tehran diplomatically rather than militarily. Increasing international pressure on Iran has no prospects," Ozerov was quoted as saying by the Interfax news agency.
The United States and European allies are pushing for sanctions because of Iran's refusal to suspend its enrichment program, as demanded by the U.N. Security Council. They suspect Iran is trying to develop atomic weapons in violation of its treaty commitments.
The Iranian regime insists the program has only the peaceful purpose of generating electricity. Russia, which has close ties with Iran and is building that nation's first nuclear power plant, opposes sanctions.
Despite what U.S. and Russian officials have described as increasingly close positions on the Iranian nuclear program in recent years, they appear far apart heading into the Friday deadline set by the Security Council for Iran to stop enrichment.
The United States and Britain say that if Iran doesn't meet the deadline, they will try to get the council to make the demand compulsory, which would raise the possibility of sanctions.
Seeking to avoid having the sanctions issue come before the council, Russian officials argue that the International Atomic Energy Agency should take the lead for the United Nations in trying to resolve tensions over Iran's nuclear program.
Ozerov stressed Russia's opposition to the use of force against Iran — an issue that got close attention in state-run Russian media after President Bush said last week that military action could not be ruled out.
"The forceful option is extremely dangerous and not constructive," ITAR-Tass quoted Ozerov as saying during a seminar on global security.
The report added that Ozerov also warned Iran against making belligerent statements.
Moscow has been frustrated by Tehran's uncooperative attitude, and ITAR-Tass said Ozerov expressed regret over the failure to reach a final agreement with Iran on a compromise proposal to have the Iranian uranium enrichment program operate on Russian territory.
The two nations announced a "basic agreement" in February on implementing the plan, which would allow closer international monitoring of Iranian enrichment program — which can produce both fuel for power-generating nuclear reactors and the core material for atomic bombs.
Iran is prepared for more talks on the Russian proposal, Iran's IAEA envoy said in Moscow on Friday. But Ali Asghar Soltanieh stressed that the details were unresolved and needed much more discussion.
Iranian officials already undercut the intent of Russia's plan by insisting that they would continue some enrichment work at home.

Now the Russians are sort of backing Iran which probably is giving the U.S. more reasons to be worried

 

[Tangled Web]

When is the deadline?

 

[Carter]

James Bond says:

Russia Sucks

 

[Admiral_N8]

So these people think Iran is just going to give up its nuclear program without the possible use and threat of sanctions or military action? Doesnt that seem a little naive?

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

world war 3...yeah!!!!

 

[Calvin]

It figures this would happen right as I'm leaving college.

 

[Tangled Web]

Does Russia still have nukes?

 

[Admiral_N8]

It figures this would happen right as I'm leaving college.

Youre 53 and still in college?

Also, what is Russias actual solution to this problem?

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Youre 53 and still in college?

Also, what is Russias actual solution to this problem?

You really believed he was 53

 

[Admiral_N8]

You really believed he was 53

So he's a liar? I had no reason to think that, so has be been just lying this entire time?

Well thats just silly.

 

[Calvin]

My age is in my profile. Why would a 53 year old be posting in a forum like this?

 

[Mentok]

My age is in my profile. Why would a 53 year old be posting in a forum like this?

To pick up chicks

 

[Halcohol]

To pick up chicks

Isn't that why ALL of us post here?

 

[Carter]

I post here to make all of you feel uncool by comparison

 

[Admiral_N8]

My age is in my profile. Why would a 53 year old be posting in a forum like this?

I just assumed you werent a liar...sorry.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I find it sad that the only reason why Russia is opposed to punishing Iran is for the same reason why they opposed the war in Iraq: their pockets.

The Russian/Chinese position is also really weak. There is no way Iran will give up their nuclear program volunatarily without any punishments. They have turned down aid incentives from the European Union. They have turned down Russia processing the uranium for them. This conflict will escalate to such a level where Russia and China will be powerless to stop a UN/US/Israeli/European military conflict and they will be forced to play along. Which is going to make them look really bad whether support Iran or the collalition.

 

[Calvin]

I just assumed you werent a liar...sorry.

The joke was pretty obvious to everyone else.

 

[Mentok]

Isn't that why ALL of us post here?

Totally

 

[ShadowBoxing]

The joke was pretty obvious to everyone else.

You have to be vague with him then, because the converse obviously escapes him.

 

[blind_fury]

Doesn't Russia and China get alot of oil from Iran. If the US imposed sanctions those two countries would be mostly effected, NOT THE US.

 

[Admiral_N8]

The joke was pretty obvious to everyone else.

I've known 50 year olds who spend their time online in forums, most who are restricted to their beds due to certain physical problems...especially superhero forums could attract older posters since it isnt an age-specific topic like other forums.