Iron Man 2 The Iron Man 2 Box Office Prediction Thread

[Spider-Fan]

48% drop isn't that bad, and it has Memorial Day coming up. I think it will definitely get over IM's budget, but probably not by as much as we all thought it would. But, it should make it. However, the international numbers are so much higher than IM1's, I think Marvel has to be happy.

 

[Iceman]

Got to say I'm a bit disappointed with IM2's domestic numbers. Before I saw the film I was expecting $400m. For some reason I don't think it has as much replay value as similar blockbusters.

 

[lespaul59]

I'll be surprised if IM2 can't at least tie IM at $318mil. I mean COTT scratched and clawed it's way to $160mil and that mvoie got not love at all. I know it had the added 3D money but stilll IM2 should have no problem reaching $320mil. Plus I still think IM2 has had some stiff compitition it's second and third weekend and will have some pretty tuff compition next week. I don't know what kind compition IM had other than Indy4.

 

[Blade X]

I don't disagree with anything here, but TIH was non stop action and it didn't do anything financially. Obviously if it was the first Hulk movie to come out, I think it would have done at least 200 domestic, but it still would have been the same movie critically. It's cliched to say that we need to find the right balance, but it's never been more important. Those IM trailers were pretty action packed. Yeah they could have done another set piece, but are parents really watching the movies, then deciding if is appropriate for their kids to watch again next Saturday afternoon? Are they reading reviews beforehand to make sure it is kid friendly enough? Maybe it's the marketing, which also doomed TIH. Maybe they should have attached more kid friendly TV spots on Nick or Disney. The TV spot with the kid was pretty kid friendly. Maybe IM2 didn't garner a repeat viewing with the kids, but I am not sure how many parents are willing to see a movie a second time anyway, one with the spouse, another with the nieces/nephews or kids. Maybe I am dead wrong, but a lot of movies have made a heck of a lot more without necessarily being kid friendly.

I wouldn't exactly say that TIH had non stop action. It had the exact same number of action/fight scenes as IM2. However, on average, most of the fight/action scenes in TIH were longer then the fight/action scenes in IM2, with the possible exception of the last fight/action scene in IM2 (which was about the same length, or greater then the last action/fight scene in TIH).

I think that the main reason why TIH didn't do well at the box office is because the movie makers decided to go with the dumb snarling non verbal (except for "Hulk smash" in the last fight scene) savage Hulk. This version of the Hulk is boring (personality wise) and is seen mostly as nothing more then a raging good monster/animal similar to Mighty Joe Young. Most people have a hard time relating to a non verbal snarling monster character. I strongly believe that if the movie makers had used the original angry grumpy and intelligent talking version of the Hulk (the version of the Hulk that was used in the PLANET HULK animated movie), that TIH would have done much better at the box office.

 

[lespaul59]

I wouldn't exactly say that TIH had non stop action. It had the exact same number of action/fight scenes as IM2. However, on average, most of the fight/action scenes in TIH were longer then the fight/action scenes in IM2, with the possible exception of the last fight/action scene in IM2 (which was about the same length, or greater then the last action/fight scene in TIH).

I think that the main reason why TIH didn't do well at the box office is because the movie makers decided to go with the dumb snarling non verbal (except for "Hulk smash" in the last fight scene) savage Hulk. This version of the Hulk is boring (personality wise) and is seen mostly as nothing more then a raging good monster/animal similar to Mighty Joe Young. Most people have a hard time relating to a non verbal snarling monster character. I strongly believe that if the movie makers had used the original angry grumpy and intelligent talking version of the Hulk (the version of the Hulk that was used in the PLANET HULK animated movie), that TIH would have done much better at the box office.

I've never seen Planet Hulk but I've always felt that going with a more intelligent Hulk would have been better than either Hulk we have gotten so far.

 

[ElMariachi]

I'm sorry but I take my d*** seriously. Wouldn't be a fanboy without one.

I don't like to attach my d--k to a movie franchise or a particular superhero.

 

[ElMariachi]

This.

I really doubt Iron Man 3 is in any kind of jeopardy of being made or if Marvel is even having second thoughts. The only thought going through their head is when can we get the third one released.

At least I know they will break the bad threequel curse because they're saving Iron Man's baddest villain for last and not shooting their load with the second one.

exactly. Thats why I find these disapointed forumers to be a bit silly. You are going to get sequels. They are being planned as we speak. It to would be one thing if I had money invested in this, hoping to get more. But that doesn't apply to anybody here. Our only concern should be future movies. SM3 made bank, but look at how their fanbase is worrying about which Disney Channel star is going to be the next Peter Parker.

 

[ElMariachi]

Avatar the same level of kid-friendly as Pixar's movies? Uhh, I don't recall seeing genocide by firebombing in any Pixar film. Or people being eaten by dragons with big teeth. Or being run through with arrows or riddled with bullets. Avatar was very much PG-13, while Pixar has only gone G or PG.

But that's just me. A simple story does NOT automatically mean kid-friendly. And when I'm thinking "kid" I'm thinking under 10. Pre-teen and teen girls definitely went to Titanic for Leo, but I don't think anyone under 10 would have the kind of obsessive crushes that the 13-16-y-o have nowadays.

sure, Avatar had some violence and adult themes----but it was advertised as being kid friendly. And in my opinion, in this day in age (with violent games/tv/movies) it is a kid friendly movie. Its kind of like Star Wars, which was somewhat mature in places but overall was child friendly. Oh, and by kids I mean 8-14. I think Avatar is in that wheelhouse. IM2 is a bit too political and has too much adult humor for theme in my opinion.

Maybe we can get Justin Bieber to play Tony Starks adopted son.

 

[FaT_tONle]

S**t like people saying that Iron Man 2 had a good script and that the middle part was wholely satisfying boggles my mind. It boggles my mind that anyone likes Hellboy 2, Spider-Man 3, GhostRider, The Spirit, all of the Punisher movies, Wolverine, Batman Returns, Superman, Superman 2, Superman 3, Superman 4, Superman Returns and DareDevil. I mean, alot of s**t boggles my mind.

I don't know a lot of people that liked most of those films...

I liked FF in general but I've never pretended that it was a great movie. As a matter of fact it's probably a pretty bad movie that I like for some unknown reason. I'm sorry that I had higher hopes for Iron Man 2, I didn't know that I should have been expecting something of the FF movie's quality, especially when the first movie was better than those films.

FF movies don't compare with IM first two installments. Maybe they met your expectations. That's fine. Why you want to bring down your expectations for that franchise and defend the movies, yet be overly critical of a superior franchise is your business. Just be fair. You can't tell me Vanko was underutilized and then say Doom wasn't as bad as was made out to be... just as an example.

Will people stop quoting that guy, he is on my ignore list for a reason.

And I'm not apart of a d**k measuring contest because I don't have a d**k.

Well, what he said on the issue made a lot of sense, especially the d*** comment.

 

[ElMariachi]

As I said earlier, the done sequence was wholly unsatisfying, they were faceless and hardly provided any kind of threat, then Vanko arrives and you think its on, but after 30 seconds its over, sorry but it just wasnt a satisfying conclusion to their rivalry. You ask what more did I want? I didnt want to come out of that fight thinking 'is that it?' Spiderman 2 and X2 had some of the best action sequences ever in a CB movie, TDK had the awesome Japan and chase scene's, not one moment of Iron Man 2 made me say 'woah', thats the big difference.

And how can you say I am looking for reasons to hate the movie when I liked it, you can clearly see in my sig I gave it a 9/10, but it wasnt the sequel it could have been, thats what was dissapointing.

Sure, they were faceless---but is this any different from goons in Batman or any other action movie? Iron Man is sci-fi, so faceless robots go with the territory. Sure, Whiplash could be a minute or so longer, but this doesn't really break the movie for me.

 

[ElMariachi]

Will people stop quoting that guy, he is on my ignore list for a reason.

And I'm not apart of a d**k measuring contest because I don't have a d**k.

you ignored me!? Talk about trying to avoid opinions you don't agree with! Cough cough politics cough cough.

 

[Iron_Stark]

S**t like people saying that Iron Man 2 had a good script and that the middle part was wholely satisfying boggles my mind. It boggles my mind that anyone likes Fantastic Four and Fantastic Four 2. I mean, alot of s**t boggles my mind.

I liked FF in general but I've never pretended that it was a great movie. As a matter of fact it's probably a pretty bad movie that I like for some unknown reason. I'm sorry that I had higher hopes for Iron Man 2, I didn't know that I should have been expecting something of the FF movie's quality, especially when the first movie was better than those films.
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Fixed.

Those two movies were hot garbage. THE worst that has ever come out of Marvel. The idiot director should never be let into a studio lot again.

 

[Tony Stark]

Stop comparing it to other movies and just realize that I refuse to like every single comicbook movie that comes out just because it's a comicbook movie staring a good actor who has a huge nerd following.

I still like RDJ but I just don't care for the movie. It's not personal.

LOL! you compare the movies all the time, but we aren't able to do that? You're a total hypocrite. You were the one who said these movies were as bad as the Fantastic Four, but no we can't compare it to Spider-man 3, or whatever.

Also if it's not personal, then why on earth is it bothering you that people compare this movie to other comic films? That's something that's happened with every comic movie that comes out. Heck every "top 10" list on SHH is a comparison.

If you don't like the movie fine, but if you don't like people comparing the film to others, I suggest you either use the "ignore" feature, or find another message board that doesn't allow people to do this.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Sure, they were faceless---but is this any different from goons in Batman or any other action movie? Iron Man is sci-fi, so faceless robots go with the territory. Sure, Whiplash could be a minute or so longer, but this doesn't really break the movie for me.

Of course its different, goons have faces and can talk, the drones couldnt, goons arent faceless, we see their reactions, faces, etc, its totally different than faceless drones who have no reactions.

At the end of the day, I just dont expect to walk out of a $200 million movie unsatisfied with the action.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I thought the action was bad ass personally. Could there have been more? Sure. But i liked the character moments too. I mean, more action could of resulted in less Sam Rockwell, and that would just be an utter travesty in my book.

 

[Iron_Stark]

The fights scenes were fine and the money is fine, nothing to worry about.

Look at Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back made 100 mill less domestically than the original, and had the least action of the entire saga, yet it's arguably the greatest sequel ever and it was never in danger of more movies getting made.

Of course if there was internet back then, I'm sure people would've been complaining and panicking.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

I think that the main reason why TIH didn't do well at the box office is because the movie makers decided to go with the dumb snarling non verbal (except for "Hulk smash" in the last fight scene) savage Hulk. This version of the Hulk is boring (personality wise) and is seen mostly as nothing more then a raging good monster/animal similar to Mighty Joe Young. Most people have a hard time relating to a non verbal snarling monster character. I strongly believe that if the movie makers had used the original angry grumpy and intelligent talking version of the Hulk (the version of the Hulk that was used in the PLANET HULK animated movie), that TIH would have done much better at the box office.

I'll second all this. This "Harpo Marx Hulk" stuff has to stop. Your title character must have a personality. That horrible TV show somehow planted the idea that (David?) Banner loses his vocal cords when he transforms and Hollywood just can't get away from that.

 

[danoyse]

S**t like people saying that Iron Man 2 had a good script and that the middle part was wholely satisfying boggles my mind. It boggles my mind that anyone likes Hellboy 2, Spider-Man 3, GhostRider, The Spirit, all of the Punisher movies, Wolverine, Batman Returns, Superman, Superman 2, Superman 3, Superman 4, Superman Returns and DareDevil. I mean, alot of s**t boggles my mind.

Superman and Superman 2 are bad now? OK, that boggles my mind.

Will people stop quoting that guy, he is on my ignore list for a reason.

Your ignore list is not everyone else's problem.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

I thought the action was bad ass personally. Could there have been more? Sure. But i liked the character moments too. I mean, more action could of resulted in less Sam Rockwell, and that would just be an utter travesty in my book.

Same here. I would hate to see reactions from some to the first Die Hard movie if it came out this week. "Not enough action!". Good lord....we play too many Xbox games.

I think the fact this movie got an A CinemaScore speaks to how well it was balanced. 5th biggest OW ever and about 450 million so far in the coffers means all sequel plans are on track. If something happens to jeopardize the Avenger storyline, then I'll get upset.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

Superman and Superman 2 are bad now? OK, that boggles my mind.

I was thinking the same thing.

Personally I wouldn't put Batman Returns and the first Punisher on the list either. I also liked the Daredevil DC.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

What was the opening weekend then?

 

[hatebox]

$128m

It's currently on $251m domestically

 

[Superhero 101]

I just hope it gets to 300 million domestically

 

[hatebox]

I just hope it gets to 300 million domestically

It will. Whether it gets past $320m is a more interesting matter.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

So how about them boxoffice numbers? This thread is slightly off topic now.

My parting word until the final numbers is what I said before, I think that the movie is going to drop 50% after the actuals come out.

Right now I think that the movie ends with 315mil tops. I'm predicting 308mil.

Well, looks like I was wrong.

Well those movies are bad to me and I wasn't speaking for anyone else but myself. I've never liked the original Superman movies. Thats not a cool opinion but it's my opinion.

As for that A Cinema Score it hasn't stopped the movie from dropping almost as badly as Spider-Man 3 which I don't remember having an A Cinema Score. Like Superman Returns this movie's word of mouth is obviously lackluster which doesn't mean anything this time because it's still going to hit 600mil but next time it won't be that lucky. This movies legs have been bad so far and thats what I'm looking at.