Alright, I edited from above, because I'm not getting drawn into another flame war with you.
The point is that alot of people on here were specifically pointing at TS3 being the one to break TDK's record. Someone even guaranteed it, not you, but someone guaranteed it. If you checked on the BOM forums it was even more rediculous, but I didn't see a weekend prediction under 140 over there.
Ok, so do me a favor and actually direct your anger to those that are proven to be wrong or hypocrites. Making me the scapegoat because I so happen to be on opposing sides of you doesn't make any sort of sense. It's the type of behavior that deems you the oh-so-endearing term of a "fanboy".
Had you done some actual research or avoided placing labels, you'd have seen I was right in these forums LAST YEAR, vehemently defending the casting of Scarlett and Black Widow's lack of Russian linkage. I was one of the few people here who supported RDJ from the very beginning. I was one of the many here who fully supported IM1s success and potential future. I was fully behind IM2 once the second trailer came out.
It's absolutely pathetic I have to point this out because it just shows how blind you've been acting in this thread. I gain absolutely nothing from creating some sort of agenda against this franchise, especially since I've been rooting for it up until I had actually seen IM2. Oh and I've also had many run-ins with the TDK and SR fans, if you'd like proof of that as well. I've got many pro-Marvel debates up my sleeve too if you require it, your majesty.
In closing: kindly stop with the passive aggressive b**tching. It was cute at first but now it's getting irritating being accused of being some Batman troll with a dying vengeance against IM. What kind of BS is that? You're a grown man. Act your damn age.
In any case IM2 is a success, anyway you want to slice it, and there clearly is something up this summer with people being fed up with high ticket prices.
Wow, this sounds so oddly familiar. Could it be I've never actually argued against this?
I'm looking at it as a movie watcher...not a studio exec. A butt in a seat is a butt in a seat to me. IM2 made more than IM1.
You're looking at it as a movie watcher yet are concerned with the number of butts in the seats? You can't have it both ways. Either you're strictly viewing this on the merits of IM2 as a film, for which you are on the wrong thread...or you're here to discuss how the film did monetarily, in which case you have to at least somewhat view it as a studio exec.
Based on what? It seems that everyone who loved IM1 saw IM2. How exactly is IM2 supposed to create new fans that weren't there the first time?
I'm not exactly sure what you're framing here. How else do sequels create anticipation past the first film's target audience? Word-of-mouth and marketing hype.
How is exceeding the original's gross not "keeping the momentum going"?
We're literally going in circles here. I'm not typing up another paragraph for an answer I gave a few pages ago. I'll save myself the time and point you to the Bond, Batman, Potter, and Matrix franchises. If all it takes is to exceed your predecessor's gross, then we have one
helluva anomaly going on in Hollywood.
Like you, I see patterns over time. As you say next....
See?
The difference between our two comments was I
really wasn't directing it to you. You clearly associated me with the crazy fanboy stereotype for absolutely no reason. This isn't going anywhere, so it's best we just end it here. I wanted to know if you actually had justification for jumping to conclusions and that obviously didn't pan out.
Again...we have no way of knowing what the ceiling is for the Iron Man character.
We don't have a ceiling for any character. IM is no different. We've already both agreed that IM1 did fantastic, but by no means was it on the level of SM1 or TDK. When a movie reaches those numbers, it's reasonable to assume it's unlikely it'll remain at that top-tier. IM1 wasn't there (yet). The type of hype IM1 received after it was seen would lead credence that the ceiling could be pushed much higher.
And how indicative of how the human mind works than to see a performance that has
improved on the first celebration inducing performance being greeted by some as a "disappointment". It's crazy-town.
BTW, IM2 is now about 20 million above what IM1 grossed. (champagne time!
)
X3 and SM3 were such grand achievements for those two properties.
(Hard to put "relaxed" into a typed word)
, they didnt even say this about TIH, as if they are going to be saying it about IM2.
