Iron Man 2 The Iron Man 2 Box Office Prediction Thread

[ElMariachi]

This is a box office thread. If you're not interested in discussing numbers then move along.

That's great, but my question still is relevant to this thread. You people are worrying about how much more money hollywood bigwigs are going to line their pockets with. And are even disapointed about it. I find this to be somewhat silly, you don't agree?

We already are getting more sequels so why should anyboby care at this point? To me, its nothing more then a d--k measuring contest of somebody elses d--ks. Again, silly.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^Then leave the the thread, nobody is forcing you to be here.

Anyway, the movie is dropping pretty hard overseas too. It's going to make more than the first but is it even a lock for 300mil? I'm not as well versed in overseas grosses so I'm really asking.

 

[Blade X]

I really can't figure out what's going on with IM's BO. I thought sequels were supposed to piggyback off the success of the original, and IM2 felt like enough of a crowd-pleaser that WOM should have been pretty good.

At this point, I think it's fair to say that IM2 simply didn't expand the audience of the first one.

I think that's in part because the general audience doesn't give a darn about Nick Fury, Black Widow, Whiplash, War Machine, and Justin Hammer. And, because, although talented, the cast isn't full of box office attractions other than RDJ. RDJ's recent turn in Sherlock Holmes may have taken some of the edge off his reprise of Tony Stark as far as the public is concern.

It's still a success, but Marvel probably needs to take a step back and evaluate how to proceed for IM3.

Again, I blame the lack of action/fight scenes in the movie for why this movie hasn't exceeded expectations in regards to ticket sales. Most people who pay to see these kinds of movies want and expect more action/fight scenes and less talking heads.

 

[hatebox]

That's great, but my question still is relevant to this thread. You people are worrying about how much more money hollywood bigwigs are going to line their pockets with. And are even disapointed about it. I find this to be somewhat silly, you don't agree?

We already are getting more sequels so why should anyboby care at this point? To me, its nothing more then a d--k measuring contest of somebody elses d--ks. Again, silly.

Some people are intersted in observing the cultural and commercial reception of the superhero genre. There's no need to get wound up over that. The Dark Knight is occasionally mentioned because it's an obvious film to compare IM2's performance to, being a superhero sequel. No big deal.

 

[ElMariachi]

Its fun. Isn't that what the interwebz are for? Or is it for generalizing anyone who finds IM2's BO dissapointing "Nolan zealot" and "insufferable Batman dork"?

Its fun to concern yourselves with how much money someone else is making?

And no, I said that you are disappointed about box office because it doesn't give you ammo to argue with those insufferable Batman geeks who brag about Warner bros profits they will never see. Its all pretty laughable

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It's pretty laughable and dumb to be obessed with movies and superhero movies but...we are.

Nobody is saying that this is the most important thing in the universe but it's interesting to people like myself. None of what we are doing is important. We would all be better off spending all our time helping the homeless or downtroden and spending time with our friends and famliy.

 

[ElMariachi]

Wait so the critics didn't love Iron Man 2 because of a throwaway line? Thats just delusional. Most still liked the movie enough to give it good enough notices anyway so the idea that this movie is hated among critics is silly and unfounded

Yes. Politics means a lot to the Hollywood crowd. In the first movie, he was against the military industrial complex. This during the bush administration. Now during Obama, Tony is almost anti big government. Connect the dots on this

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Its fun to concern yourselves with how much money someone else is making?

And no, I said that you are disappointed about box office because it doesn't give you ammo to argue with those insufferable Batman geeks who brag about Warner bros profits they will never see. Its all pretty laughable

Box Office is pretty unpredictable. That's why its fun. Obvious really.

 

[dark_b]

That's great, but my question still is relevant to this thread. You people are worrying about how much more money hollywood bigwigs are going to line their pockets with. And are even disapointed about it. I find this to be somewhat silly, you don't agree?

We already are getting more sequels so why should anyboby care at this point? To me, its nothing more then a d--k measuring contest of somebody elses d--ks. Again, silly.

we are talking about how much money it is and will make. debate. this is the purpose of this forum and this thread.

we are not emotional invested.

can i talk how bad Schumacher was today? can i talk how stupid Obama is?

can we talk about anything ?

dont be desperate. IM2 is not braking records.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yes. Politics means a lot to the Hollywood crowd. In the first movie, he was against the military industrial complex. This during the bush administration. Now during Obama, Tony is almost anti big government. Connect the dots on this

Republicans are strange.

 

[ElMariachi]

^Then leave the the thread, nobody is forcing you to be here.

Anyway, the movie is dropping pretty hard overseas too. It's going to make more than the first but is it even a lock for 300mil? I'm not as well versed in overseas grosses so I'm really asking.

I asked a valid question in regards to this thread though.

 

[dark_b]

you are a hypocrit. if this movie would brake BO records you wouldnt come here and ask why we care.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

you are a hypocrit. if this movie would brake BO records you wouldnt come here and ask why we care.

Exactly.

 

[ElMariachi]

Some people are intersted in observing the cultural and commercial reception of the superhero genre. There's no need to get wound up over that. The Dark Knight is occasionally mentioned because it's an obvious film to compare IM2's performance to, being a superhero sequel. No big deal.

Occasionally? LOL

I don't understand why they would care. The movie did well. Why compare it to other movies? Like I said, money is meaningless. Particlarly when judging quality and culture. Transformers 2 made a boatload. is this better then iron man? Sometimes movies just hit it big. The hangover, avatar, and twilight are not good by any means, but they just hit gold

 

[Tony Stark]

Wait so the critics didn't love Iron Man 2 because of a throwaway line? Thats just delusional. Most still liked the movie enough to give it good enough notices anyway so the idea that this movie is hated among critics is silly and unfounded.

Tony, it appears that you are letting your love of the movie cloud your opinion of it's boxoffice. It's silly to judge boxoffice numbers based on what you love or hate. This movie has no chance of making 400mil BTW. It would need a 3.13 multiplier to get there and it has no chance in hell getting those kind of legs after this drop. It would have had to have a 50 to 53% drop for that to have had a shot of happening. I'd be shocked if this movie gets a 2.8 multiplier after that drop and the lukewarm word of mouth. It could ofcourse, depending on the 3rd and 4th weekend numbers but I just don't see it happening.

Loved by the audience or not it was never going to have legs as good or better than the first because sequels just don't do that.

No actually if you read what I said, I pretty much defended my position. Second of all I said it most likely would not make 400 mil. What I said is that this is pretty much going to be 360-380, and I'm standing by that. Clearly it will finish above SM3 as you can see how SM3 tanked on Sunday which IM2 did not see.

Second of all, you say "lukewarm word of mouth" talk about letting your opinion cloud your judgement. The major box office indicators show that this movie is getting high ratings among fans. The movie was more front loaded than the first, and it was expecting to get at least a 55% drop.

Even TDK had a 51% drop with no competition in week 2. The lowest week 2 drop for a superhero film was SM2 which only saw a 37% drop.

 

[Marvin]

It certainly would have done better if Robin Hood hadn't come out at all, but given the summer months usually have a big movie getting released every week IM2 can probably count itself lucky RH performed as it did. In hindsight IM1 was particularly fortunate that Speed Racer and and Narnia were complete bombs.

The next two weeks have big movies that really don't compete for IM2's demographic so the drops will tell us how word of mouth is going for it.

ture, very true.
The iron man franchise is consistenly blessed with lack of competition. especially in 2008. It should count it's lucky stars it did these well.

That being said, the film could have benefited form a stronger stylistic direction. I respect what fav does but one has to admit that his visuals are boardering on made for tv levels. (see the "fight with his best friend"). He may not need to be as over bloown as bay but even raimi understood what the audience wanted to see as far as big filmmaking.

Moreover this film suffered from tonal issues. If nolan (for all his faults) had bruce fight in costume with his best friend at this point in the story, you could bet it wouldn't be to some stupid song.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

No actually if you read what I said, I pretty much defended my position. Second of all I said it most likely would not make 400 mil. What I said is that this is pretty much going to be 360-380, and I'm standing by that. Clearly it will finish above SM3 as you can see how SM3 tanked on Sunday which IM2 did not see.

Second of all, you say "lukewarm word of mouth" talk about letting your opinion cloud your judgement. The major box office indicators show that this movie is getting high ratings among fans. The movie was more front loaded than the first, and it was expecting to get at least a 55% drop.

Even TDK had a 51% drop with no competition in week 2. The lowest week 2 drop for a superhero film was SM2 which only saw a 37% drop.

Internet polls don't mean a thing to me. I'm not saying that it has the worse word of mouth ever or that it's word of mouth is terrible but it's clearly not as good as the first.

 

[ElMariachi]

we are talking about how much money it is and will make. debate. this is the purpose of this forum and this thread.

we are not emotional invested.

can i talk how bad Schumacher was today? can i talk how stupid Obama is?

can we talk about anything ?

dont be desperate. IM2 is not braking records.

Yes, some of clearly are emotionally invested. Box office numbers should mean nothinh to people unless it totally bombs. This didn't and is on pace to make big money. Your debates at this point is nothing more then d--k measuring.

 

[ElMariachi]

Republicans are strange.

Hit a sore spot eh?

 

[hatebox]

Yes, some of clearly are emotionally invested. Box office numbers should mean nothinh to people unless it totally bombs. This didn't and is on pace to make big money. Your debates at this point is nothing more then d--k measuring.

The irony is that in a few short posts you sound far more emotionally invested than the relatively detatched posts that make up the bulk of this thread.

The crux of it is: it's pointless asking why people discuss things on a message board, because by that rationale all the discussions on SHH are a waste of time.

 

[ElMariachi]

you are a hypocrit. if this movie would brake BO records you wouldnt come here and ask why we care.

I don't care if it breaks records. I am not making any of that money. You assume I would brag like the tdk and avatar clowns? Sorry, I am an adult.

 

[Tony Stark]

Occasionally? LOL

I don't understand why they would care. The movie did well. Why compare it to other movies? Like I said, money is meaningless. Particlarly when judging quality and culture. Transformers 2 made a boatload. is this better then iron man? Sometimes movies just hit it big. The hangover, avatar, and twilight are not good by any means, but they just hit gold

Because the box office thread, no matter what movie it's for has been a bastion of the haters to come on and either flame those who like the movie, or to bash the movie over the head with a successful movie like TDK.

It's pretty rediculous for sure. Star Trek last year only made 257 million and with ony 127 international, but I think most reasonably intelligent people agree that it kicked ass, and was easily the best movie last summer.

People will continue to argue wheather IM2 should have made more, or wheather it was better than the first or not. There's no question this will be in the top 5 grossing movies of 2010, and that everything is ontrack for the sequels.

It's all nice fodder, but you're right it really means nothing in the grand scheme of things.

 

[ElMariachi]

The irony is that in a few short posts you sound far more emotionally invested than the relatively detatched posts that make up the bulk of this thread.

The crux of it is: it's pointless asking why people discuss things on a message board, because by that rationale all the discussions on SHH are a waste of time.

No I just find this all to be silly at this point now that this movie is a hit

 

[Tony Stark]

Internet polls don't mean a thing to me. I'm not saying that it has the worse word of mouth ever or that it's word of mouth is terrible but it's clearly not as good as the first.

I'm not talking internet polls, I'm talking about what the industry uses to measure these things, go look it up.

 

[ElMariachi]

Because the box office thread, no matter what movie it's for has been a bastion of the haters to come on and either flame those who like the movie, or to bash the movie over the head with a successful movie like TDK.

It's pretty rediculous for sure. Star Trek last year only made 257 million and with ony 127 international, but I think most reasonably intelligent people agree that it kicked ass, and was easily the best movie last summer.

People will continue to argue wheather IM2 should have made more, or wheather it was better than the first or not. There's no question this will be in the top 5 grossing movies of 2010, and that everything is ontrack for the sequels.

It's all nice fodder, but you're right it really means nothing in the grand scheme of things.

exactly star trek was awesome. I didn't mind that it didn't beat tf2. All I care about is enough money for a sequel. Im2 has already achieved this, therefore I don't see the point is concerning over box office.