Iron Man 2 The Iron Man 2 Box Office Prediction Thread

[hatebox]

Once again the Iron Man franchise seems to have benefited from underperforming competition. I don't think Shrek was the same demographic - even if it did badly - but MaGruber was and has bombed. It was never going to be a big film, but if it had debuted in the high teens or even low twenties that would definitely have taken away from IM.

Prince of Persia's still a hard one to estimate. I think it will perform solidly, rather than amazingly. It's been a while a since we had a big, all out action film (IM2 certainly didn't fit that bill even though it was marketed as such) and audiences will be hungry for some spectacular, dumb fun. On the other hand the trailers look clunky and though I like him as an actor I'm not quite convinced of Jake G's action star credentials quite yet. But either way IM2 is taking a big hit when that comes out and we'll pretty much know where its domestic total is headed by then.

 

[Iron_Stark]

LOL at people wanting this to fail.

 

[hatebox]

LOL at people wanting this to fail.

 

[Rumpy Bulge Dubz]

It's been a while a since we had a big, all out action film (IM2 certainly didn't fit that bill even though it was marketed as such) and audiences will be hungry for some spectacular, dumb fun.

IM2 had PLENTY of action.....PLENTY

christ, what did you expect, **** blowing up every 5 freaking seconds?

it's true, some people you just can't make happy, regardless what you do.

 

[hatebox]

IM2 had PLENTY of action.....PLENTY

christ, what did you expect, **** blowing up every 5 freaking seconds?

it's true, some people you just can't make happy, regardless what you do.

What I thought of it is irrelevent - a very common complaint was that there wasn't enough Iron Man action scenes. Even if PoP is crap I doubt a lack of action will be an issue as far as word of mouth goes.

 

[dark_b]

IM2 had PLENTY of action.....PLENTY

christ, what did you expect, **** blowing up every 5 freaking seconds?

it's true, some people you just can't make happy, regardless what you do.

X2 and spiderman 2 had more action then IM2.

what.......what.............

 

[Rumpy Bulge Dubz]

a very common complaint was that there wasn't enough Iron Man action scenes.

Oh I understand that, the same complaint was made about the first movie as well, one of the reason's my cousin didn't like it (not enough action). I argued with him just like I'll argue with you, there was enough action in both films. This isn't Bay, and action movies don't need to be "cluttered" with it every other scene. Favreau went for moderation, which is exactly what you're suppose to do (moderation is the most imporant aspect to life), so yea, it applys to all things, including movies. Too much Iron Man, would've just been overkill

 

[Iron_Stark]

IM2 had PLENTY of action.....PLENTY

christ, what did you expect, **** blowing up every 5 freaking seconds?

it's true, some people you just can't make happy, regardless what you do.

From what I understand, this is what people want:

- an explosion every time Stark enters the room or replace RDJ's dialog with an explosion
- have Nick Fury come in five minutes into the film explain who he is and hold Stark's hand until the end of the movie
- get rid of Black Widow and leave Pepper being the only female in the whole movie, or recast Black Widow with Judy Dench, Meryl Streep or Daniel Day Lewis
- get rid of Happy Hogan
- get rid of SHIELD
- have captions at the bottom of the screen explaining who each character is and where they come from or have it like Pop-up-Video

 

[hatebox]

I think people just want a greater sense of spectacle, of a blockbuster being larger than life. They could probably tolerate the corniness of certain scenes in SM2 because they would often be followed up by moments Spidey swinging through New York with Elfman's uplifting score. Ditto for Avatar.

 

[Rumpy Bulge Dubz]

From what I understand, this is what people want:

- an explosion every time Stark enters the room or replace RDJ's dialog with an explosion

this is the vibe I'm getting from a lot of comments, yes

too many Pyro-mainiacs on this board

not enough Iron Man? Like Stark needs to be in the suit for 3.5/4 of the movie.

Jesus H. Christ

 

[Iron_Stark]

The Spider-Man movies were Peter Parker movies with Spider-Man making a guest appearance.

Spider-Man 2 maybe had just one more action scene than Iron Man 2 and that was the car chase scene that make Parker late to the play. The other action scenes were the bank and the train scene. The end fight with Doc Ock was about as short as the end Whiplash fight, even then it wasn't really a fight because all Spider-Man was trying to do was stop the machine.

So no, Spider-Man 2 wasn't some Micheal Bay spectacle.

 

[Rumpy Bulge Dubz]

^exactly

where people are getting this notion that Spiderman 2 had more action than Iron Man is ridiculous. Action is definitley not a word that comes to mind when I think of the Spider Man films

Let's see: The opening scene with Stark making his enterance to the expo, that was just bad ass, the race track scene, the fight between WM and IM, the final battle. ****, there was plenty of action

fanboys here need to quit nitpicking and just enjoy the damn movie for what it was, healthy wholesome fun.

 

[hatebox]

So no, Spider-Man 2 wasn't some Micheal Bay spectacle.

Who mentioned Michael Bay? In fact who mentioned the need for more 'explosions' for that matter? I'm beginning to see the defensive attitude that was commented on eariler in this thread. 'Spectacle' is a positive cinematic quality, and Bay explosions aren't positive.

My point was SM2 didn't have wall to wall action, but it never felt like it was lacking because the action was placed at good points in the story, were appropriately dramatic, and were often satisfying fun. And few people really felt like we didn't see our masked hero enough because he was in action frequently enough in the narrative.

Notice I haven't said this is what I think is a problem with IM2 but more what the general consensus of the critics and audience could be. Yes, evidence will always be anecdotal but there have been more than enough takes that suggest things slow down too much after 40 minutes for a lot of people. And we're only talking about consensus because this is a BO thread - personal opinions on the movie don't mean an awful lot.

 

[dark_b]

hatebox those guys are always acting like that. if you dont like IM2 then you are a hater .

if you think IM2 needed more action then you only know Bay movies.

they are desperate because IM2 is not braking boxoffice records. thats why they are always making up in the BO thread how we are bashing the movie.

 

[Iron_Stark]

hatebox those guys are always acting like that. if you dont like IM2 then you are a hater .

if you think IM2 needed more action then you only know Bay movies.

they are desperate because IM2 is not braking boxoffice records. thats why they are always making up in the BO thread how we are bashing the movie.

Who's calling you a hater? I was just pointing out that Spider-Man 2 had just about the same action as Iron Man 2.

I could give a damn about it breaking BO records I'm getting Iron Man in the Avengers and Iron Man 3, I get a trip from all the armchair film makers that think they could've done a better job and think they know what's best for the franchise and think they know what characters belong or don't belong in the movie.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

From what I understand, this is what people want:

- an explosion every time Stark enters the room or replace RDJ's dialog with an explosion
- have Nick Fury come in five minutes into the film explain who he is and hold Stark's hand until the end of the movie
- get rid of Black Widow and leave Pepper being the only female in the whole movie, or recast Black Widow with Judy Dench, Meryl Streep or Daniel Day Lewis
- get rid of Happy Hogan
- get rid of SHIELD
- have captions at the bottom of the screen explaining who each character is and where they come from or have it like Pop-up-Video

I'm starting to take "not enough action" as a positive on the internet. If having enough action means being like Transformers, I'll pass. I'm getting a little tired of movies trying to be like an Xbox game. If you have to make a little less at the box office, so be it. At least I'll have a movie I can watch 10 years from now instead of a temporary thrill ride that ages like cheese.

Some of my favorite parts of this movie are NON action. Sam Rockwell's interaction with RDJ and with Rourke. RDJ and Paltrow's interaction. Favreau's one-liner after the action scene ("I got him!")....hee hee...

Apparently IM2 is going to make plenty of money, so they did well. All I need personally is enough money to be made to go forward with Thor, IM3, Capt America, and the Avengers movie. Mission accomplished so far.

 

[dark_b]

I'm starting to take "not enough action" as a positive on the internet. If having enough action means being like Transformers, I'll pass. I'm getting a little tired of movies trying to be like an Xbox game. If you have to make a little less at the box office, so be it. At least I'll have a movie I can watch 10 years from now instead of a temporary thrill ride that ages like cheese.

Apparently IM2 is going to make plenty of money, so they did well. All I need personally is enough money to be made to go forward with Thor, IM3, Capt America, and the Avengers movie. Mission accomplished so far.

isnt it cute you are trying to twist it around?

X2,spiderman 2 and TDK had a lot action. all sequels.

 

[Iron_Stark]

isnt it cute you are trying to twist it around?

X2,spiderman 2 and TDK had a lot action. all sequels.

Seriously, is there a different cut of Spider-Man 2 out there that has more action than Iron Man 2?

The car chase scene, the bank robbery scene and the train scene.

Oh wait saving a baby from a burning building again. That right there does it.

 

[ElMariachi]

LOL at people wanting this to fail.

yeah, it sure seems like it when the same few forumers keep on jumping on the people who are content with the box office.

Some have even said Marvel should be worried. About what? This being no. 3 in movie superheroes? Which to me is still astonishing considering Iron Man was a lower tier hero on the Marvel totempole. This movie is going to make probally $600 million, sell a bunch of DVDs/Blu-Ray, make a decent amount of money on merchandise/videogames, and collect some bank from all the sponsors who jumped on board to use Iron Man to promote their products (Norton, Reeses, Dr. Pepper, Burger King, etc.). I really don't think they are at all concerned about this franchise.

 

[TheVileOne]

Looks like Iron Man 2 is on tap to cross over $250 milliont his weekend as I predicted. Next weekend say hello to $275+ million.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

isnt it cute you are trying to twist it around?

X2,spiderman 2 and TDK had a lot action. all sequels.

Apparently they didn't from what I'm hearing about IM2.

 

[hatebox]

About a 50% drop for a 26.6m weekend.

The only point of interest now for IM2's box office is whether it'll beat its predecesor. While its drops should even out (just about) allowing for this, it's got PoP coming out in a couple of weeks which could hurt its chances.

Not sure what else there is to talk about on the matter really.

 

[rashad]

POP comes out this Friday.

 

[hatebox]

Oh. Well, it might struggle more than I thought then.

 

[Rumpy Bulge Dubz]

I'm starting to take "not enough action" as a positive on the internet. If having enough action means being like Transformers, I'll pass. I'm getting a little tired of movies trying to be like an Xbox game. If you have to make a little less at the box office, so be it. At least I'll have a movie I can watch 10 years from now instead of a temporary thrill ride that ages like cheese.

Some of my favorite parts of this movie are NON action. Sam Rockwell's interaction with RDJ and with Rourke. RDJ and Paltrow's interaction. Favreau's one-liner after the action scene ("I got him!")....hee hee...

Apparently IM2 is going to make plenty of money, so they did well. All I need personally is enough money to be made to go forward with Thor, IM3, Capt America, and the Avengers movie. Mission accomplished so far.

exactly