Joker "The Joker" in development with Todd Phillips and Martin Scorsese attached? - Part 2

[TheSmoothKnight]

The new movie Huslters is certified at 80 reviews but they won’t certified Joker at 84 reviews and it’s above the cut line.

 

[Orb]

The new movie Huslters is certified at 80 reviews but they won’t certified Joker at 84 reviews and it’s above the cut line.

It's because the score is teetering on the edge with every negative it can easily dip below 75 hence the wait and see to see it stabilize first

 

[TheSmoothKnight]

Chinese Joker TV spot with new footages. They used Peter Travers quotes on the movie. I haven’t seen his review out there yet.

 

[Hollis Mason]

Anyone here knows what those quotes say?

 

[FunkMiller]

I've been anticipating that is what this film would be for a long time now, so i'm ready and very excited haha.

I’ll be honest, the second it became clear that Batman was not involved in this movie whatsoever, it kinda ceased to be a movie about The Joker for me, but rather a character study inspired by The Joker. Which I am actually more than fine with. Allows for more scope, and to do something different.

 

[Arachnerd]

I would say telling people how long Joker appears in the film constitutes "spoiling the movie". Major a-hole move.

I thought we were all aware by now that the movie would be a slowburn and Arthur would only become Joker in the third act?

Not really that surprising, but okay.

 

[AcidRain]

I thought we were all aware by now that the movie would be a slowburn and Arthur would only become Joker in the third act?

Not really that surprising, but okay.

Frankly, your blase' attitude about critical information like this is extremely off-putting. Man, you are irritating me.

 

[Calvin Ellis]

Frankly, your blase' attitude about critical information like this is extremely off-putting. Man, you are irritating me.

Maybe you should take a break from the board for a while. You are getting too worked up over something so small.

 

[PacificBoy]

Anyone here knows what those quotes say?

Joaquin is stunning, extremely powerful and shocking, best movie of the year.

 

[Hollis Mason]

Joaquin is stunning, extremely powerful and shocking, best movie of the year.

Oh BOIIII. Peter Travers is one of my fav critics so hearing him say that hypes me even more.

 

[TMP98]

Oh BOIIII. Peter Travers is one of my fav critics so hearing him say that hypes me even more.

I wonder if they'll put his quote on the back of the blu-ray again

 

[dhandler01]

Frankly, your blase' attitude about critical information like this is extremely off-putting. Man, you are irritating me.

Why are you being so standoff-ish about it? The guy who posted it said they were sorry and would delete it and it wasnt like it was a big twist ending or something. It was an honest mistake.

 

[Arachnerd]

Frankly, your blase' attitude about critical information like this is extremely off-putting. Man, you are irritating me.

Uh, you're the one getting worked up over something not really getting that worked over? But aight, you do you.

 

[Orb]

Great shot

 

[Arachnerd]

Heath Ledger is smiling from above right now.

 

[PacificBoy]

I’ll be honest, the second it became clear that Batman was not involved in this movie whatsoever, it kinda ceased to be a movie about The Joker for me, but rather a character study inspired by The Joker. Which I am actually more than fine with. Allows for more scope, and to do something different.

From the spoilerish bits and pieces I caught, that's what the movie is. Basically taking 'all it takes is one bad day' and reframing it through a contemporary (US) political lens. Imagine how messed up this ver of Batman would be.

 

[FunkMiller]

From the spoilerish bits and pieces I caught, that's what the movie is. Basically taking 'all it takes is one bad day' and reframing it through a contemporary (US) political lens. Imagine how messed up this ver of Batman would be.

I find it such a huge shame that we will never see a Batman that fits within this framework. Although, I’m confident that Matt Reeves will create a Gotham that will also reflect contemporary American culture.

...but the fact I’ll never get to see a Denny O’Neil / Neal Adams early 80s inspired Batman in a Scorsese 80s inspired Gotham makes my soul hurt.

 

[Boom]

Great shot

 

[Calvin Ellis]

It was no more of a spoiler then when people said Darth Vader was only going to be in costume in ROTS for about 5 minutes.

 

[Jekecy]

Hot damn, Joaquin looks outright devilish. I know I shouldn’t expect this version of Arthur to be in the film too much, but it does sting a little.

We may very well have struck the lottery again and found a worthy successor to Heath in a relatively short amount of time, and it’ll already be over in a few weeks.

 

[metaphysician]

From the spoilerish bits and pieces I caught, that's what the movie is. Basically taking 'all it takes is one bad day' and reframing it through a contemporary (US) political lens. Imagine how messed up this ver of Batman would be.

See, this is what bothers me: like nearly every adaptation to borrow from Killing Joke, this misses the key fact that Killing Joke kind of portrays the Joker's entire ideological position as full of it. For all the glory and attention the Joker's scheme gets, the story. . . has it utterly not work, on either Gordon or Batman, and specifically has Batman deconstruct it as the same cliched edgy pseudo-philosophy every sociopathic teenager thinks they invented for the first time.

Which is to say, the problem is not the Joker advocating something, the problem is the story forgetting to make clear that he is wrong. Not merely evil and broken, but *fundamentally incorrect*.

 

[Hammer!]

I find it such a huge shame that we will never see a Batman that fits within this framework. Although, I’m confident that Matt Reeves will create a Gotham that will also reflect contemporary American culture.

...but the fact I’ll never get to see a Denny O’Neil / Neal Adams early 80s inspired Batman in a Scorsese 80s inspired Gotham makes my soul hurt.

This brings in mind my thoughts on DC/WB's "having their cake and eating it too" philosophy on making stand alones franchises that aren't connected but pretty much are. I just don't see any feasible way it can make people who want them connected or people who don't happy. Nobody wins, and it likely is going to stir an annoying mess.

 

[Rocanrol]

But that part of the Joker’s gist, isn’t? There is some allure, some ever escaping geniality and captivating charm in his discourse that has attracted voluble and weaker personalities to his side.

Batman nevertheless see him from what he is, a mad man.

And I’m fine with the film being unapologetic about the character, as long as there’s no redemption.

 

[Hollis Mason]

Like they said before, i think this movie will not condone or condenm Joker's action, just show why he does what he does. Something similar to what A Clockwork Orange did, showing everyone was just as bad as Alex. Like the Pao guy said on his tweet, this isn't a "feel good" movie, but a movie that makes you question your morals and what you think is right.

That kinda works perfect for a Joker movie, because that's how he sees the world. To him, everyone is just as terrible as he is. And the movie would try to put you inside his mind. But i understand why some may dislike it and even think it's a dangerous move.

 

[Hollis Mason]

So far the reviews have been "It's a ****ing masterpiece" and "best movie of the year" to "an empty movie" or "A miserable and dangerous film": Anarchy, just like the Joker would like.

Also, kinda sad JoJo Rabbit is getting so much hate. I think it looks amazing as a satire and very original.