Joker "The Joker" in development with Todd Phillips and Martin Scorsese attached? - Part 2

[Catoti]

Clayface would be a tricky one though.

How so?

 

[Greenlite]

A Harvey Dent film will probably be more interesting than a Lex film actually, the arc is probably similar with Joker the film but the height of the fall would be worse I guess.

It'll have politics, elections, criminal investigations, Major Crime type of deal cutting, a Batman and Gordon, and his transformation.

Heck, they could have Joaquin's Joker doing a cameo, throwing the acid, "this is what you f***ing deserve"

They could literally do their own little universe in a reverse way. Could get a bit heated with Matt Reeves tho, the timing...

 

[Gothamsknight]

just picked up my 4K copy!

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Orb]

Yoooo I would love that as my avi pleeeease

 

[dhandler01]

I cant get any avi gif to work anymore. Is there a glitch?

 

[Kane52630]

gif avys aren't working.

Avies (gifs)

 

[Orb]

Oh I had no clue cuz mine is working.

 

[Black Narcissus]

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

 

[Catoti]

A Harvey Dent film will probably be more interesting than a Lex film actually, the arc is probably similar with Joker the film but the height of the fall would be worse I guess.

It'll have politics, elections, criminal investigations, Major Crime type of deal cutting, a Batman and Gordon, and his transformation.

Heck, they could have Joaquin's Joker doing a cameo, throwing the acid, "this is what you f***ing deserve"

I would so definitely watch that.

 

[WhoMani]

This is just beautiful, wow.

 

[Micromind]

A Harvey Dent film will probably be more interesting than a Lex film actually, the arc is probably similar with Joker the film but the height of the fall would be worse I guess.

It'll have politics, elections, criminal investigations, Major Crime type of deal cutting, a Batman and Gordon, and his transformation.

Heck, they could have Joaquin's Joker doing a cameo, throwing the acid, "this is what you f***ing deserve"

They could literally do their own little universe in a reverse way. Could get a bit heated with Matt Reeves tho, the timing...

Great idea !

Just ignore what Reeves says !

 

[dhandler01]

gif avys aren't working.

Avies (gifs)

Thanks! That thread is funny

 

[antsman41]

I like how his left eyelid isn't blue... somehow it is more impactful "being wrong".

 

[Pennywise]

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

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[BatLobster]

I've said it before, but I think the most interesting non-Batman approach for Joaquin to do a Joker "sequel" would be to create an entirely new/different origin for The Joker -- not Arthur Fleck. Different story, different origin, different time period/location setting, different tone, etc -- but with Joaquin starring as the titular character again and Todd Phillips directing. I think this could work well for a variety of reasons that would benefit us (the viewers) and the Phoenix/Phillips team.

I loved this Joker movie and found the Arthur Fleck character fascinating. Loved seeing his transformation into the "Joker". The most exciting next step would be to see this Joker come to blows with some version of Batman. However, as we all know, that doesn't seem likely to happen any time soon. While Joaquin has said that he is open to doing a sequel with Phillips, he has also said that he doesn't have much or any interest in going toe to toe with Batman. We also have the new Reeves/Pattinson Batman franchise gearing up right now that will last several years, and we know WB likely won't be allowing multiple live-action Batman films/franchises to be happening simultaneously. It also seems HIGHLY unlikely that WB would be willing to put Batman in a disturbing hard R-rated film at this point.

Assuming Batman is currently off the table for a Joker sequel, that would leave us with following up with Arthur Fleck/Joker after the events of this film. I personally thought the ending of Joker was pretty perfect, and perfectly ambiguous as to whether some or all of the film's events really happened. Seems like a follow-up story would sort of defeat the ending of this film and miss the point of what the film was ultimately going for. It would be like making a sequel to Taxi Driver, or King of Comedy especially.

So what would excite Joaquin enough to play the Joker again, without him feeling like he's simply repeating himself or cashing in on the first film's success? Telling a completely different origin story that still captures the essence of the Joker character. I feel like this would be even more of a challenge for Joaquin/Phillips than the first film was, it would fit with the ambiguous "one possible origin" concept that the first film had going for it, and would certainly fit the "multiple choice origin" concept that has been associated with The Joker for decades now. It's also another way to tell a Joker story without needing Batman himself to be involved in a major capacity.

I know this will likely never happen and that we're more likely to get a straightforward sequel (if we get one at all), but I think this would be a really cool concept and would continue to show how infinitely The Joker character can be re-interpreted and re-adapted while still keeping his core elements intact.

Dude, I agree with you 100% on this. They could basically 'Jumanji' this. Same concept, new spin on it. It would be so Joker-y, like you say. Just continuing that ambiguity. Making a sequel to Joker is basically like making Taxi Driver 2.

And I really don't want to see two Batmans simultaneously.

 

[Gee]

Nice shade thrown at McDonald's.

 

[geosphere]

A Harvey Dent film will probably be more interesting than a Lex film actually, the arc is probably similar with Joker the film but the height of the fall would be worse I guess.

It'll have politics, elections, criminal investigations, Major Crime type of deal cutting, a Batman and Gordon, and his transformation.

Heck, they could have Joaquin's Joker doing a cameo, throwing the acid, "this is what you f***ing deserve"

They could literally do their own little universe in a reverse way. Could get a bit heated with Matt Reeves tho, the timing...

 

[geosphere]

Who is he hugging?

 

[Black Narcissus]

Who is he hugging?

Rooney Mara.

 

[Jekecy]

Dude, I agree with you 100% on this. They could basically 'Jumanji' this. Same concept, new spin on it. It would be so Joker-y, like you say. Just continuing that ambiguity. Making a sequel to Joker is basically like making Taxi Driver 2.

I don't see how Taxi Driver: Redux, is any better.

Go back to the initial talkback of this film just being announced, 90% of fanboys and posters here were crapping on it immediately. I can't jive with fans refusing to let artists continue on the path they feel is right. If fans had it their way this movie doesn't exist.

If they decide to return, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt in whatever form that sequel takes.

 

[hellblazer103]

Who is he hugging?

His girl, Rooney.

Aka probably a good choice for Harley in this universe (if that were a thing)

 

[Boom]

I don't get a "criminal mastermind" or "mob boss" vibe from this Joker at all, so I don't know. Can't really think of what else you could do with him.

I'm perfectly fine with the idea of this take being a one-and-done. If Matt Reeves does use the Joker in his Batman franchise, I'd rather it be one specifically tailored for that.