The Kennedy Thread

[Sebastos]

The young man that could quite possibly continue the Kennedy Legacy....

Edward Kennedy III

Wouldnt surprise me.

I wonder why the Dems didn't name the bill after Kennedy before his death? He was known for his push for healthcare long before last week. The republicans did this with Reagan and now the Dems are doing it with Ted. Lets not scrape the bottom of the barrel to put his name on something just to get it passed. Why not truly craft a great bill and then honor Ted with his name on it instead of just putting his name on a sinking ship?

I'm all in favor of that.

 

[Kelly]

Let the man rest in peace, let his family bury him in private, and love him in public. Let the Senate do its job, and rather than name a bill that the American people seem to not want....let the Senate do their job, and come up with a Bi-Partisan bill that the American people can applaud, and in turn....name it after Kennedy and allow his name to be used with honor on an honorable bill, not to simply push something through the Senate in order to further the agenda of a party, but to further the betterment of our country. The Senate to honor him by doing what he did best, work in a bi-partisan fashion to pass a bill that is best for the American people.

Beatcha to it Chase....

 

[Paradoxium]

He should do something else first, like travel a bit and get a dose of reality, before going into politics. There is already enough "career politicians".

 

[Sebastos]

He should do something else first, like travel a bit and get a dose of reality, before going into politics. There is already enough "career politicians".

He has plenty of time to do so.

 

[Kurosawa]

He should do something else first, like travel a bit and get a dose of reality, before going into politics. There is already enough "career politicians".

And get a haircut.

 

[Paradoxium]

Dude is fat and/or has a lot of baby fat on his face. Long hair ain't gonna look good on him.

 

[chaseter]

I'll get you next time Kel, if it's the last thing I do!!! You and your little dogs too

 

[Paradoxium]

I'll get you next time Kel, if it's the last thing I do!!! You and your little dogs too

Stock up on bacon grease.

Pour bacon grease on dog poop.

Watch dog poop magically disappear.


.... t:

 

[Superman]

The young man that could quite possibly continue the Kennedy Legacy....

Edward Kennedy III

Yeah, He looks like trouble.

 

[Kelly]

That's right........we gotta keep those troublesome Kennedy's around.....lol

 

[Kelly]

If any of you have a couple of minutes you might want to read through this timeline.....

He had an amazing run in the Senate, absolutely amazing....

http://kennedy.senate.gov/senator/timeline.cfm

 

[Superman]

That was one of the strangest funerals I've ever seen on TV.

You would think with all the cameras around someone would have a spotlight.

 

[Kelly]

That was one of the strangest funerals I've ever seen on TV.

You would think with all the cameras around someone would have a spotlight.

The funeral was supposed to start at 5:30, not 7:30.....there was no provisions for lighting, and those cameras were probably a good 200 to 300 yards away....they were not set up anywhere near the funeral itself...

 

[SuBe]

Well ... to listen to the NE Corridor news media over the weekend, you would think that Ted Kennedy was as near as we're going to come in this country to our own Gandhi.

Have you heard about the memo? What memo you say? Well .. that would be the memo written by Victor Chebrikov back in 1983. Comrade Victor was the head of the Soviet Union's KGB. The memo was addressed to one Yuri Andropov, the HCWIC of the USSR. The Boss. The Top Commie. The Big Red.

First - 1983 status check. It's the Soviet Union back then, not Russia. The Berlin Wall stands and East German border guards are shooting people who try to escape Communist East Germany. Ronald Reagan is president .. and he is beginning preparations to deploy Pershing missiles to Europe. Andropov is not pleased - and when the leader of the Soviet Union wasn't pleased back in those days, neither was the American liberal establishment.

There's a presidential election just around the corner, and Ted Kennedy is starting to think that he will be the one the Democrats choose to keep the hated Reagan from winning that second term. Kennedy believes that his chances of getting the nomination and winning the election might be enhanced if he can somehow manipulate American public opinion more to the favor of the Soviet Union and less to the favor of Reagan and his plans to deploy missiles in Europe. So ... Kennedy hatches a scheme.
Now we get back to Chebrikov's memo. Chebrikov is telling Andropov that John Tunney, a close confidant to Ted Kennedy, visited Moscow in May of 1983. Tunney, according to the memo, was there on a mission from Kennedy. He wanted to get a message to Andropov. The message was that Kennedy was willing to help Andropov manipulate the American media into providing Andropov a chance to spread a bit of anti-Reagan propaganda. Kennedy, according to Tunney, was willing to arrange for some sit down interview for Andropov on American television. Kennedy would take the steps necessary for the major TV networks to contact Andropov to arrange for an invitation to Moscow. There Andropov would be interviewed and would be given a pretty good hunk of air time on American television. The trick here is that Kennedy, working with the TV networks, would make it look like the idea was all Andropov's; reaching out to the American people, so to speak.

What would Kennedy get in return? The memo makes vague references to the Soviets helping him challenge Reagan in the 1984 elections.

I guess we'll never learn what type of help Kennedy was seeking from the Soviets; and that would be because Andropov went Tango Uniform about 8 months later .. .and the Democrats didn't seem all that interested in running Kennedy anyway.

Quite a guy, our Uncle Ted. Offering to help our enemy, the Soviet Union, gain a propaganda edge in the United States ... all to boost his own chances to become president. What a guy!

Yes .. this memo was reported long ago. The London Times had a story in 1992. It was also covered in the book "The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism" by historian Paul Kengor. The media paid no attention to the London Times story, or to Kengor's book. After all, the Liberal Lion had to be protected.

Want more? Here's the story from Forbes.

 

[Nivek]

Sounds like someone wants a dead Republican legislator at Kennedys rank of seniority and respect...

 

[SuBe]

Neither I or the guy that wrote that are Republicans, so I don't know what you mean by that.

 

[Marx]

...so I hear that Hatch and Dodd have been saying that Vicki Kennedy should replace Ted in the Senate.

 

[cyborg ninja 14]

I liked how his funeral service was called "Edward M. Kennedy Celebration of Life Memorial Service." Nice sugarcoating.

 

[Kelly]

...so I hear that Hatch and Dodd have been saying that Vicki Kennedy should replace Ted in the Senate.

She has already said no.....

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Kennedy was a liberal.

The only reason the conservative don't like the coverage, is because of that.

It's...pretty simple.

 

[Marx]

She has already said no.....

I heard that she pretty much said no right off the bat, but it would be interesting.

 

[Bob ROARman!]

I liked how his funeral service was called "Edward M. Kennedy Celebration of Life Memorial Service." Nice sugarcoating.

Hahaha, yeah really. It really is just pure comedy.

 

[Hobodeluxe]

"The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism" by historian Paul Kengor

that title just screams objectivity

 

[Bob ROARman!]

Gotta make sure the pedestal is still nice and shiny every few years.

 

[Bim]

If any of you have a couple of minutes you might want to read through this timeline.....

He had an amazing run in the Senate, absolutely amazing....

http://kennedy.senate.gov/senator/timeline.cfm

I didnt know some of that, very impressive indeed.

The man wasnt a saint, but i found the entire memorial and funeral very touching. I thought it was a very nice sendoff. I spent most of my saturday glued to the tv i'll admit.

CNN aired a very interesting HBO documentary saturday night, i dunno if anyone saw it. I think it wasd called 'In His Own Words'... very cool