Superman Returns the little S's on the S symbol

[thedude007007]

wasn't there supposed to be some significance to those little s's in the movie?

i thought there was supposed to be a scene in the hospital that those came in to play. Why go through the trouble to make all those tiny symbols?

 

[Yellow Cyclone]

b/c its a pointless way of driving up the budget

 

[C. Lee]

wasn't there supposed to be some significance to those little s's in the movie?

i thought there was supposed to be a scene in the hospital that those came in to play. Why go through the trouble to make all those tiny symbols?

I don't remember hearing if there was a reason "story" wise for the little esses....but I have heard them say that it, and the non plain surface of the rest of the suit, was to help add texture and shadowing and the like. It gives more of an another world look than just sleek spandex type suit.

 

[Batgort]

The creator of the costume, a woman in her 50s who didn't look like a superman fan, just added those for her super-huge budget, each one of them LASERED ON, and she openly admitted that it costed a ton to do.

Meanwhile, nobody but people like us that obsess over the costume and the movie noticed it because that level of detail is too small to notice on camera. In fact, it is too small to notice in anything but the most high resolution shots.

Again, why would they higher someone like this to waste lots of time and money on something so frivalous and not needed? The costume would have looked just as good with a different tecture (or perhaps no tecture)? The lines and curves are all we can see and appreciate.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Meanwhile, nobody but people like us that obsess over the costume and the movie noticed it because that level of detail is too small to notice on camera. In fact, it is too small to notice in anything but the most high resolution shots.

You could clearly see the texture in some close-ups, but they seemed completely pointless to me.

 

[buggs0268]

I don't remember hearing if there was a reason "story" wise for the little esses....but I have heard them say that it, and the non plain surface of the rest of the suit, was to help add texture and shadowing and the like. It gives more of an another world look than just sleek spandex type suit.

Singer said in an interveiw this year that the 3D S Shield somehow saves Superman's life in the film. Maybe he was just covering for all the acklash against the suit, and maybe it is a deleted scene.

 

[The Kid]

I suspect it was a spiderman influence, to give the suit more razzle dazzle.

 

[C. Lee]

Singer said in an interveiw this year that the 3D S Shield somehow saves Superman's life in the film. Maybe he was just covering for all the acklash against the suit, and maybe it is a deleted scene.

Interesting, I don't remember hearing that. In the movie, when Supes is at the hospital and Lois and Jason visit...while Lois is whispering to Supes, Jason is touching the suits "S"....maybe there is a cut scene where that causes something to happen.

 

[DA Harvey Dent]

It was a purely an aesthtic element of the costume. I don't blame the costume desginers or Singer, I mean if I too thought SR was gonna make $400 million domestic and be this huge megahit I would've spent cash like water. You can't blame them for that.

 

[Showtime]

I remember that the S Logo itself was rumored to come into play somehow to save Superman at the end. Didn't hear anything about the small embossed S logos though.

That is interesting C. Lee, I wonder if that was an edit job when he was touching the S.

 

[C. Lee]

I remember that the S Logo itself was rumored to come into play somehow to save Superman at the end. Didn't hear anything about the small embossed S logos though.

That is interesting C. Lee, I wonder if that was an edit job when he was touching the S.

Well....I tried not to read everything about the film before I saw it (unlike most in here)....but it was inevitable that I would read many things in my job as mod....and I remember hearing many saying that Jason would save him (and now I'm hearing others say the 'S' figured into it too)....so now when I remember Jason touching the 'S' and hearing about so many other things cut from this version....then I believe that it comes into a possability now.

 

[Araneae]

I suspect it was a spiderman influence, to give the suit more razzle dazzle.

Wasn't it made in a similar fashion (same process, similar material) as the Spider suit? I vaguely recall reading that they did.

 

[dark_b]

the laser would made the texture on the S. so who cares if the laser would make a square or an S?

get your facts straight.

 

[Showtime]

Well....I tried not to read everything about the film before I saw it (unlike most in here)....but it was inevitable that I would read many things in my job as mod....and I remember hearing many saying that Jason would save him (and now I'm hearing others say the 'S' figured into it too)....so now when I remember Jason touching the 'S' and hearing about so many other things cut from this version....then I believe that it comes into a possability now.

I expected a blood transfusion type ending or what not, that would have been cool in my book. I wonder what actually was filmed and what wasn't. Time will tell.

I remember seeing a small photo of Superman with a oxygen mask over his face which clued me in on the hospital sequence.

 

[Captain Villa]

Well....I tried not to read everything about the film before I saw it (unlike most in here)....but it was inevitable that I would read many things in my job as mod....and I remember hearing many saying that Jason would save him (and now I'm hearing others say the 'S' figured into it too)....so now when I remember Jason touching the 'S' and hearing about so many other things cut from this version....then I believe that it comes into a possability now.

I wonder if the novel gives it away ?

 

[C. Lee]

I wonder if the novel gives it away ?

The only way I believe novelizations of movies is when they are written after the movie comes out. I still have a copy of the novel "Star Trek:Generations" where

Spoiler

Captain Kirk dies from being shot in the back instead of like in the movie falling with the walkway.

 

[Drago]

Singer said in an interveiw this year that the 3D S Shield somehow saves Superman's life in the film. Maybe he was just covering for all the acklash against the suit, and maybe it is a deleted scene.

I guess you could argue that symbolically the symbol saves his life... since it's his family crest, he "dies" when he loses Jor-El and his mom forever, and then he comes back to life when he is told about Jason.

I'll say that I liked the texture on the suit, and they probably made it like that so that it has texture but at the same time is a little more distinguished from Spidey's suit (where they started that "texture" thing on the costume). I couldn't imagine it being that much more than any other design... I always assumed they put whatever image they wanted into the computer, and it's "printed" on there with lasers (so regardless of the design, it would cost the same to put onto any costume).

 

[Kevin Roegele]

I suppose, when you're a costume designer for Superman, there is so little that you can actually change about the costume that you'll go to extreme lengths to make your mark.

 

[BatFitz]

I thought it was just supposed to give it texture. Just like on the cape with the lines and on the blue parts with the little diamond shapes....so you don't look at it and think it's just tights...just giving it a technical edge I suppose...I didn't really pay attention to them but I when I did, on film it isn't annoying at all

 

[afrayedknot]

I remember that the S Logo itself was rumored to come into play somehow to save Superman at the end.

I asked the same question in another thread. I thought I had imagined it because no one responded. Still, I can't find the original story. I believe the information came from Singer himself in an interview, but I may be wrong.

 

[lazur]

wasn't there supposed to be some significance to those little s's in the movie?

i thought there was supposed to be a scene in the hospital that those came in to play. Why go through the trouble to make all those tiny symbols?

The significance is that each of those mini S symbols is actually a plastic cellophane S that can be thrown at an enemy. They act similarly to a cartridge in that once the S is withdrawn from the shield, it expands to exactly the size of the enemy, while in flight toward said enemy, for adequate encasement and storage by Superman.

They had to cut that part out of the film, however, due to the extra 25 million it would have cost to properly CGI the effect.

 

[lazur]

^^^^that was obviously sarcastic for anyone who didn't see that.

 

[Drago]

^^^^that was obviously sarcastic for anyone who didn't see that.

Pretty freakin' funny though.

I didn't follow the spoilers too much about Supes Returns, but I guess Singer was just commenting on the symbolism with the family crest.

 

[knightofistari]

The creator of the costume, a woman in her 50s who didn't look like a superman fan, just added those for her super-huge budget, each one of them LASERED ON, and she openly admitted that it costed a ton to do.

Meanwhile, nobody but people like us that obsess over the costume and the movie noticed it because that level of detail is too small to notice on camera. In fact, it is too small to notice in anything but the most high resolution shots.

Again, why would they higher someone like this to waste lots of time and money on something so frivalous and not needed? The costume would have looked just as good with a different tecture (or perhaps no tecture)? The lines and curves are all we can see and appreciate.

I agree. My problem with the suit was....why bother getting your actor to "beef" up for the role....if the suit is going to be so tight that he had to be padded in order to look like he had muscle? Sure, the suit had an "other world" look but why choose fabric that makes his working out pointless. NOt to mention the little S's. Cool idea, sure....but waste of money, yeah. Just like the two or three S's that have been added to his boots. One on the heels and one or two on the tread. I thought the belt S was a good choice but that was it.

 

[Orlando Spider]

The Spiderman suit was made the way it was (with the brick) to have an added (fresh) element to the costume to make it more intricate and visually stimulating (as well as the raised webs). However, the added element of the 'brick pattern' on the suit was designed to enhance the shape and contrast of the muscles of the wearer.

With superman, the 'S's on the shield, and diamonds on the suit, i believe, were simply done to make the suit more visually stimulating. Such patterns and textures on clothing it today's world, don't tend to exist often. The suit looks more 'otherworldy' as a result.

Personally, I also think that the designers of superhero suits nowadays are specifically making the processes harder to do and more uncommon to replicate, with the purpose of ensuring that not every joe on the street who wants to wear a 'superman returns' suit can do so by simply picking fabric and sewing a suit together. Same idea with Spiderman.

Although, there are always people out there who will go to great lengths to replicate the costumes from the screen. And it will be done too, haha.