The Lone Ranger - Part 2

[Tacit Ronin]

Just read Devin's Lone Ranger review. Was almost disappointed that there wasn't a potshot at Nolan's Batman there, but fear not, there was.

 

[redhawk23]

Today though he'll walk away from a project if the paycheck isn't big enough.

 

[redhawk23]

Just read Devin's Lone Ranger review. Was almost disappointed that there wasn't a potshot at Nolan's Batman there, but fear not, there was.

It never fails.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Today though he'll walk away from a project if the paycheck isn't big enough.

Yeah, I don't know how true that is. I know the press made it seem that way but I think it was more of a creative decision than a money decision.

 

[James]

Thanks guys. I think I'll make the effort to see this on the big screen for the train sequence.

Who knows, maybe you'll enjoy the whole movie! t:

 

[Wontkins]

I liked the movie but there was too much CGI and not enough gun duels.

 

[roach]

I liked the movie but there was too much CGI and not enough gun duels.

I agree with this...the LR is supposed to be an expert marksman and he hardly shot his gun...only in a few scenes

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Just read Devin's Lone Ranger review. Was almost disappointed that there wasn't a potshot at Nolan's Batman there, but fear not, there was.

Did he mention how much he hates J.J Abrams again? That's another predictable favorite thing for him to do.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Even though you already responded to everyone who responded to this, I'll throw my voice in as well... train sequence(s) were AWESOME. Knowing that they built their own train(s)/did as much practically as they could just added to my enjoyment of it So... yeah

I love practical chase sequences and train sequences so this ticks boxes for me!

Who knows, maybe you'll enjoy the whole movie! t:

Quite possibly as I am a fan of POTC 1 and Zorro and this seems tonally similar.

 

[The Guard]

I didn't think Depp's Tonto was that wacky.

He was almost wry. The only really odd element to him was feeding the bird, and I wouldn't exactly call that "wacky".

 

[jacobed]

I love practical chase sequences and train sequences so this ticks boxes for me!



Quite possibly as I am a fan of POTC 1 and Zorro and this seems tonally similar.

The practical Ness is awesome but there's also a gross amount of cg. A western should never have any cg

 

[Silvermoon]

The practical Ness is awesome but there's also a gross amount of cg. A western should never have any cg

Other than the CGI animals (rabbits, buffalo) For me there were only two times that I felt acutely aware of CGI (I know they used some CGI elsewhere, but elsewhere I didn't really notice - it didn't stand out to me as much as these two times)

Spoiler

When Reid and Silver are on top of the train car and leap down onto the lower part of the car in front of them right before the tunnel

When Reid wakes up from being 'resurrected' on top of the platform

The second one I only noticed because I know where that was filmed at and know that it didn't look exactly like that when they filmed it [blackout]they filled in the background and made the rock the platform was standing on more of a pillar (especially noticeable in the trailers) when in reality they filmed it atop a large plateau[/blackout]

As for CGI not being used in westerns? respectfully I disagree. CGI is a tool like any other and it's effectiveness depends on how it's used. Some directors use it properly, others improperly. Personally I don't think just because a film is a particular genre means it shouldn't be able to use or access that tool.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Finally saw this film, and it is a good 100 minute film. Unfortunately it is a 150 minute film. Halfway through I was prepared to call this one of the worst films of the year. The comedy wasn't working and the plot wasn't going anywhere with far too many scenes that didn't lead anywhere. Really the only good thing in the first half of the film was the posse chase after Butch. Then around the point where they get to the Comanche village, the plot actually picks up and things started getting much better. The third act was fantastic.

The film is just far too long for the story it was trying to tell.

Since I loved half the movie and hated the other half, I'll give it a score right in the middle. 5/10

 

[warhorse78]

The practical Ness is awesome but there's also a gross amount of cg. A western should never have any cg

If they are filming in the USA, it's probably cheaper to film the more dangerous horse stunts via cgi than to pay fines to ASPCA in case a horse does get injured/killed in a scene.

But granted, we really didn't need the psycho rabbits or the horse on the tree (although that could have been accomplished using some film trickery)

 

[Poni_Boy]

If they are filming in the USA, it's probably cheaper to film the more dangerous horse stunts via cgi than to pay fines to ASPCA in case a horse does get injured/killed in a scene.

But granted, we really didn't need the psycho rabbits or the horse on the tree (although that could have been accomplished using some film trickery)

"On the first day of filming 3:10 to Yuma, a rider and his horse were seriously injured in a scene when the horse ran directly into a camera-carrying vehicle instead of veering off as planned. The rider was hospitalized, and the horse had to be euthanized on the set."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3:10_to_Yuma_(2007_film)


That being said, every modern day western has utilized CGI including 3:10 and True Grit. It's a movie making tool that helps but corners. Saying no x-genre should ever use CGI is archaic when practically every single movie with a decent budget utilizes it to their benefit.

 

[Human Torch]

Well,I've seen it tonight,and for the most part,I enjoyed it quite a bit.(You guys close your polls pretty darn quick.It ain't even been out a week!)I'd give it a solid 8/10.

I suppose I'd agree with the consensus on the film's problems.A weak 2nd act that goes on a bit too long.HBC's character was really unnecessary.(it would make sense if Tim Burton was directing....)The "Old Tonto" scenes could've been used to frame,but they didn't need to keep cutting back to it throughout the whole movie.Some of the tomfoolery could've been dropped.


But,in spite of everything,I enjoyed it.The big action finish with the William Tell Overture was worth the price of admission alone.Hearing it on the big screen during the train chase was excellent.

 

[Silvermoon]

Well,I've seen it tonight,and for the most part,I enjoyed it quite a bit.(You guys close your polls pretty darn quick.It ain't even been out a week!)

My understanding is that when Thread Manager automatically creates a new thread (due to the old one reaching it's post limit), any poll attached to it is automatically closed to voting.

 

[Hunter Rider]

My understanding is that when Thread Manager automatically creates a new thread (due to the old one reaching it's post limit), any poll attached to it is automatically closed to voting.

Unfortunately this is true.

 

[Ultimatehero]

I thought it was okay, the first and second acts dragged but once it started getting into it - and especially the third act - WOW! I'll give it a 7/10. The only thing I don't understand is how the movie is "weird" lol. I've heard a lot of people saying its weird... but, I can't see that...

 

[Octoberist]

weird to maybe to the general audience. Wait till they get to see Spike Lee's Old Boy.

 

[James]

I thought it was okay, the first and second acts dragged but once it started getting into it - and especially the third act - WOW! I'll give it a 7/10. The only thing I don't understand is how the movie is "weird" lol. I've heard a lot of people saying its weird... but, I can't see that...

I think a lot of people were thrown off by the rabbits, the meteor, etc. The film touches on the supernatural but never ouright declares it's existence in the Lone Ranger's world. The film was probably a little too subtle with that side of things. The information is there, it's just not as clear cut and in-your-face as most films that have a extra-normal side to them.

 

[The Guard]

I like the ambiguity of the supernatural elements. The idea of nature being out of balance, which is never quite determined. Was Tonto making it all up, or was Reid actually brought back to life? I liked that.

 

[James]

I like the ambiguity of the supernatural elements. The idea of nature being out of balance, which is never quite determined. Was Tonto making it all up, or was Reid actually brought back to life? I liked that.

I liked it too! I thought it was really cool that the film never outright spoon-feeds the audience and just says "Yeah, these crazy things are fact in our world". But it's that ambiguity (I think) that has a lot of people scratching their heads and wondering what the heck was going on. Just a theory though, maybe there are other elements people found odd and those are what's being referred to when folks call the film "weird".

 

[Matt Mortem]

Just saw it about an hour ago. It wasn't as bad as I thought. I liked the first half, but towards the end things got too over the top for me. I'm a sucker for westerns, so I ended up enjoying it despite it's flaws. It seemed the storyline started to deflate towards the end. Still, it's better a number of other movies to come out this year.

 

[Gianakin_]

I f**kin' loved it. Not quite Pirates 1, mainly because it was 15' minutes longer than needed, but Depp ain't playing Depp, Tonto > Sparrow in every way, Armie carried out the demanding task of reacting to the humour in a deadpan fashion, music was the best of the summer (Zimmer raids again), direction and action was top notch, climax was the most exciting one since TDKR, Fichtner, minimal Helena Bonham Carter, non-annoying love interest, FUN, my favorite movie of the summer thus far. Wouldwatchsequel/10