The Lord of the Rings trilogy or the Nolan Batman Trilogy

[Anno_Domini]

Let's be serious, Batman doesn't kill. Boromir get a pass because he is Boromir AND Sean Bean.

Actually he probably could kill most of the team besides Gandalf.

Batman doesn't kill. But if he had to, I think he could...except for Gandalf.

 

[Filmfreak]

It's like having to choose between your two favorite children. It's almost impossible for me to pick one trilogy because they are both so great in different ways and of course they are of a very different genre.

I guess LOTR has a much more epic scale, far greater mythology behind and a more impressive production by the standards of early 00s. Also TDKT can look slightly uneven due to different stories in each film. On the other hand the LOTR movies are certainly favored by the amazing universe created by Tolkien. I think Jackson did a really good job with the material and presented a pretty faithful adaptation. But possibly another director could have done an equally good job and who knows maybe even better. Definitely could have done much worse of course. I feel it's just a little harder to screw up such a well crafted universe in such a big scale production. While with Batman we already had abysmal examples like the Schumacher run. So I look at this as Nolan's very unique vision but with Jackson it could have been someone else and we could still end up with a similar product.

I remember for instance reading about what Del Toro was planning to do with The Hobbit back when he was attached to the movies and it looked very interesting. He too was passionate and very experienced with the fantastic. I'm pretty confident we could have seen a really good job as well. But I'm glad Jackson took the helm because it now has a more similar vibe to the trilogy and we know for a fact he loves this world and that he can deliver. Bottom line the way I feel about them is that Jackson was a great choice and LOTR movie trilogy a great adaptation. Nolan was the ultimate choice for the best version of Batman we've seen and probably will see for many years to come.

Overall since we're not discussing directors or talking analogies I'd say probably LOTR has a tiny edge thanks to story and characters but it's such an uneven comparison I can't push myself to vote.

 

[bapi]

****ing easy... The Dark Knight!

 

[titansupes]

Oh god. 100 000 000% The Dark Knight Trilogy.

I loved, loved the first two LotR movies, was completely obsessed with them when they came out... The the third one. Horrible, despicable excuse for a film. And Jackson has been getting worse with each movie since.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

The TDK trilogy is very good, but LOTR is just on another level, possibly, if not probably the best trilogy ever, so LOTR for me.

 

[warhorse78]

LOTR automatically. The Dark Knight trilogy had only one good movie, TDK, the other two were meh.

 

[nouan]

LOTR extended versions all the way!

 

[hame4479]

Lotr by a landslide. Jackson took an unfilmable sprawling fantasy tome n turned it into a tangible fully realized amazing epic and academy award winning film. Not to mention tdkr completely undid and screwed over what nolan had created up until that moment in the trilogy and missed the point of the character all togethor.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

lotr by a landslide. Jackson took an unfilmable sprawling fantasy tome n turned it into a tangible fully realized amazing epic and acady award winning film. not to mention tdkr completely undid and screwed over what nolan had created up until that moment in the trilogy and missed the point of the character all togethor.

thank you.

 

[Boom]

Lord of the Rings.

 

[Victarion]

I give it to Nolan. I like his deconstruction of the hero, and could really empathize with Bruce in TDKR. My problem with LOTR is that it features a bland setting and uninteresting characters (The Hobbit seems to be making up for these errors). This is coming from an avid reader of fantasy fiction. I didn't really get a sense of danger from Sauron and his minions outside of the Witch King. So there was more meat to Nolan's trilogy than Jackson's Rings trilogy.

 

[gwynplaine]

TDK is better than any of the Jackson's films.

 

[hame4479]

Nobody can just b batman he isnt just a symbol hes a man who trained for a serious portion of his life to become the wraith that he is. Hes a symbol but not one that just anyone can embody, let alone become. Whats the difference between u and me? Im not wearing hockey pads. He says it himself. Also bruce wayne never retires, he would never become a hermit that doesnt involve himself n the affairs of the cities criminality. The fact is hes just as crazy as the psychos n criminals he kicks the **** out of on a nightly basis. He needs the cape n cowl as much as the people of gotham do. Retired for 8 years becuz the cops r hunting him n hes a vigilante, please. Even when he retires he has a stranglehold on gothams crime via. Robotic drones. I know if heath hadnt passed it would of been a totally different film, but theres no excuse for how much nolan had built an amazing batman universe n then tore it down. It was almost like a big **** you to the fans n the studio. He pretty much said im done after this n im gna make sure i bookend this franchise to the point where u will never b able to bring it back to life Or continue it.

 

[Victarion]

Robotic drones? What movie were you watching?

Um, you realize Blake was a trained officer and those were neckbeards?

 

[hame4479]

The TDK trilogy is very good, but LOTR is just on another level, possibly, if not probably the best trilogy ever, so LOTR for me.

Exactly, its the only fantasy or sci fi film, n ultimately it isnt three films but mainly one extremely long one, that has ever won a best picture or best director oscar let alone a record tying 11. That fact alone should put this entire debate to rest. What peter jackson accomplished and is still accomplishing is nothing short of a miracle.

 

[hame4479]

Robotic drones? What movie were you watching?

Um, you realize Blake was a trained officer and those were neckbeards?

Im sayn that even if bruce decides to retire he certainly doesnt just give up his stranglehold on the city. Have u ever reàd kingdom come. He certainly doesnt just sulk n his mansion. N there r alot of trained police officers working in gotham, n none of them could wear that suit n be the batman. If that was the case then he never would of needed to exist at all. N neckbeards, i dnt know where ur goin with that.

 

[Schlosser85]

Love both, but LOTR is on a whole other level to me, from almost anything

 

[Victarion]

The fake batmen had no training and no business going after Crane and his thugs. I didn't get the impression that Bruce really wanted a stranglehold on the city. It's established at the end of Begins, and demonstrated through Bruce's manipulation of Dent in Dark Knight, that Bruce was looking forward to ending his crusade as the Batman. Once the corruption within the city's bureacracy was dealt with.

The Blake ending of Dark Knight Rises is left up to interpretation. I saw no evidence pointing toward Blake taking up the mantle of the Batman. Using Batman's equipment to assist the GPD (or even just provide Gordon with the information he couldn't get through legal channels) is what I saw happening in the aftermath.

I have not read Kingdom Come yet. Only Year One, TLH/DV, DKR, TMWL, Hush and Heart of Hush, and Knightfall pt 1. Good tidbits sprinkled throughout, but I didn't find any single graphic novel to be engrossing enough to buy further titles. Perhaps comics Bruce wouldn't give up his stranglehold--eh, I do agree actually that he wouldn't give it up--but film is a different medium. You might get that incarnation of Batman in the upcoming series.

@hame: If you'd like to discuss this further, let's do it via PM so as not to drag this thread way off topic.

 

[hame4479]

Have u ever read a batman comic? Its one thing to slightly change the source material, its another thing to disrespect it and ignore it all togethor. Especially when your first two entries into the series got it so right, and were seemingly leading to the gotham that i know that was eventually filled with crazies because of batmans existence. Escalation right, but nolan betrayed that idea completely. U can usurp the mob n have a law that makes it easy to put criminals in jail. But the people that eventually surface in gotham becuz of the batmans existence arent criminals, they r super villians that r on an entire different level. The joker should of been the tip of the iceberg. The dent act might have helped put an end to organized crime, but when the riddler shows it means jack****. Bruce is the only one who could help save the city from a genius psycho like that. I just wanted a film that gave us an established gotham with a rogues gallary that nolan kind of hinted at with his first two films. Instead we got a batman who had a two year career retired n then showed up for two more hurrays before he was dun forever.

 

[hame4479]

Exactly bruce wantimg a way out is ********, bucuz he never wants a way out he needs the batman, he isss the batman. Thats where nolan ****ed up.

 

[Snow Queen]

The Dark Knight Trilogy. I never understood the hype for The Lord of the Rings trilogy.

 

[titansupes]

Exactly bruce wantimg a way out is ********, bucuz he never wants a way out he needs the batman, he isss the batman. Thats where nolan ****ed up.

It's called interpretation. A valid one, too.

 

[DarthDorranceBane]

I am a huge fan of Batman in all medium, I loved The Dark Knight trilogy, all of them including the much reviled Rises, and was never fan of the Rings book. But if I have to choose, quality wise and the scope of the story I would choose the LOTR trilogy.

 

[Brother Jack]

My favorite is and probably always will be the Star Wars trilogy but I really can't pick between these two. Both contain some of my favorite films of all time and mean a lot to me on a personal level. I will say that the Dark Knight Trilogy feels more like a triad to me that Lord of the Rings does since the latter was originally written as a single, incredibly long novel and the films, while each still having their own stories, carries some of that conglomerated narrative. With Dark Knight you have three movies that work in an overarching thread but are distinct enough from each other to feel like separate films representing different chunks of the comic book mythos. LOTR is closer to being a single movie.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Oh god. 100 000 000% The Dark Knight Trilogy.

I loved, loved the first two LotR movies, was completely obsessed with them when they came out... The the third one. Horrible, despicable excuse for a film. And Jackson has been getting worse with each movie since.

Isn't that too harsh?
I honestly enjoyed The Hobbit: Unexpected Journey more than any of the Lord of the Rings trilogy