The Dark Knight The man who laughs: The Joker thread

[turtlefocker]

yea box office. woot! I heard the Joekr was gonna be in TDK, thatlle boost the BO for sure

 

[jsf]

yea box office. woot! I heard the Joekr was gonna be in TDK

NOWAISE!

 

[Crook]

it profited more than twice its cost.......thats pretty good

That's if you take into account ww numbers. Domestic is the most important, because once it reaches overseas, the studio intake gets much more complicated.

 

[turtlefocker]

From the final WW numbers the studio gets 50%.

 

[Frosty81]

Batman (1989) = $413,000,000

Spider-Man = $821,000,000 (World)

Pirates 1 = $652,000,000 (World)

Batman Begins = $382,000,000 (World)

"it profited more than twice its cost.......thats pretty good"
- It did not profit more than twice its cost. The gross take was more than double the estimated budget; but that estimated budget most likely, and very conveniently, excluded the advertising and promotional budget.

 

[DeaDheaD]

That's if you take into account ww numbers. Domestic is the most important, because once it reaches overseas, the studio intake gets much more complicated.

But considering 370 mil overall plus the DVD sales, its in blockbutser range

 

[turtlefocker]

Batman (1989) = $413,000,000

Spider-Man = $821,000,000 (World)

Pirates 1 = $652,000,000 (World)

Batman Begins = $382,000,000 (World)

and the studio only gets half of that, thats why nowadays they make the most money from DVD sales.

 

[DeaDheaD]

Batman (1989) = $413,000,000

Spider-Man = $821,000,000 (World)

Pirates 1 = $652,000,000 (World)

Batman Begins = $382,000,000 (World)

so the cut-off is 382 mill?

 

[Juanigi]

let's round down to 350 for convenience

 

[turtlefocker]

let's round down to 350 for convenience

lets just say 25 dollars.

 

[Frosty81]

I am curious, does anyone know if IMDB's box office numbers are adjusted for inflation? They have the Batman 89 budget at an estimated $35million with it's worldwide gross take at over $400million. That's ridiculous if those figures are unadjusted 1989 dollars.

- Christopher

 

[DeaDheaD]

boxofficemojo.com
they adjust it for inflation but ya gotta give them your soul

 

[jsf]

tree fiddy

 

[Batman jr.]

Well, a movie doesn't have to be a huge blockbuster to be good.

 

[Tbone Inferno]

can someone put all tdk spoilers in tags for me i wasnt around when they where released so missed it

 

[turtlefocker]

can someone put all tdk spoilers in tags for me i wasnt around when they where released so missed it

No.... wait i dont get the question

 

[Frosty81]

Well, a movie doesn't have to be a huge blockbuster to be good.

Indeed. But Noir's argument was that because Batman 89 was a success, the WB gave too much control to Burton, thus resulting in Batman Returns. So, by expert deduction, he has come to the conclusion that because Batman Begins was a success, The Dark Knight is the new Returns.

This argument overlooks the small fact that Tim Burton is not a motion picture director. He is an artistic director. Nolan is a motion picture director who has proven his talent with every film he has made. I picked up Following this weekend, which I had never seen before. A-Mazing.

- Christopher

 

[Mike_D202]

Considering that "Batman Begins" was the eighth highest grossing film in 2005, second highest grossing "Batman" film right behind 89 (which is suprising considering "Batman and Robin" tanked the franchise), achieved first place in national sales and rental charts in October 2005, becoming the top-selling DVD in the fourth quarter of 2005 and grossed $11.36 million in rental revenue...

I would say it was VERY successful.

I think TDK will do MUCH better now that people feel safe again with the franchise.

 

[Crook]

Considering that "Batman Begins" was the eighth highest grossing film in 2005, second highest grossing "Batman" film right behind 89 (which is suprising considering "Batman and Robin" tanked the franchise)

That's with unadjusted numbers though. Scale it to inflation, and BB is under BF (not sure about BR). Which makes it third or fourth in gross.

 

[DeaDheaD]

Considering that "Batman Begins" was the eighth highest grossing film in 2005, second highest grossing "Batman" film right behind 89 (which is suprising considering "Batman and Robin" tanked the franchise), achieved first place in national sales and rental charts in October 2005, becoming the top-selling DVD in the fourth quarter of 2005 and grossed $11.36 million in rental revenue...

I would say it was VERY successful.

I think TDK will do MUCH better now that people feel safe again with the franchise.

No no no no...none of that matters, it didnt do 1 bill worldwide so it was hardly successful.

 

[Frosty81]

Considering that "Batman Begins" was the eighth highest grossing film in 2005, second highest grossing "Batman" film right behind 89 (which is suprising considering "Batman and Robin" tanked the franchise), achieved first place in national sales and rental charts in October 2005, becoming the top-selling DVD in the fourth quarter of 2005 and grossed $11.36 million in rental revenue...

I would say it was VERY successful.

I think TDK will do MUCH better now that people feel safe again with the franchise.

I agree. And I don't think that Nolan is going to ruin the franchise with his take on the Joker. I think this one will be huge compared to the first considering the established fan base and following, the word of mouth, DVD sales and the fact that Begins used "secondary" villains.

 

[Frosty81]

No no no no...none of that matters, it didnt do 1 bill worldwide so it was hardly successful.

And for clarification I do agree that, in light of the circumstances, Begins was a success. I was just using the numbers to point out the flaw in Noir's argument.

- Christopher

 

[Mike_D202]

That's with unadjusted numbers though. Scale it to inflation, and BB is under BF (not sure about BR). Which makes it third or fourth in gross.

whose counting? I think its safe to say that Batman is a successful franchise again, to say its not is a bit ignorant.

But I guess we'll find out the REAL popularity will count in TDK.

 

[DeaDheaD]

And for clarification I do agree that, in light of the circumstances, Begins was a success. I was just using the numbers to point out the flaw in Noir's argument.

- Christopher

what was his argument?

 

[Crook]

whose counting?

Actually.....you were.

But I guess we'll find out the REAL popularity will count in TDK.

Indeed. It doesn't get any bigger than Batman vs. Joker, so we'll see if the main audience is really up for another bout between these 2 titans.