The MARVEL characters REDESIGN thread

[lixdexia]

it's great work, but way too busy for cap. the guy's got to be able to move and bend, he's not iron man

 

[Chris Wallace]

Busy, yeah-that's the word.

 

[camp Blood]

reminds me of some kinda suit that would be in MGS4. that's why i don't thinks its to bad. maybe the cap is doing a tactical espionage mission. but then the blue and red would have to be dulled down. eh whatever i still would rather see him on more traditional garb though

 

[RAMORE]

not bad but i dont like the circles on the thigh

Yeah I don't get the cirle thing either not sure what they are meant for. I disagree with yall this is the closest thing we would be seing in a movie I think. I LOVE IT!

 

[camp Blood]

i also wish the eye holes were smaller and he had more scales

 

[Chris Wallace]

Yeah I don't get the cirle thing either not sure what they are meant for. I disagree with yall this is the closest thing we would be seing in a movie I think.

I hope not. I'm really not diggin' it. It gives off a kind of "Dark Knight" feel, & not in a good way.

 

[RAMORE]

boo to walace yeah to the design

 

[X-Fan#1]

haha don't worry ramore i dig the design too, but i agree with it being too busy, i say get rid of the thigh circles and the chest ripples on the body armour and it's a pretty cool looking Cap. i like the SHIELD symbol on the shoulders too

 

[camp Blood]

x-fan i was thinking replacing the chest muscle ripple things with more scales

 

[RAMORE]

^me too the scales could be worked in more some way

This is my 5000th post!!!!! Now if I could just make it to 6,000 then I could get the huge avvy but alas it's been 8 years so I guess it might take till 2012...

 

[dansker]

The interesting thing that I've noticed is that movie versions are very busy. The reason for the difference seems to be partially because a penciler has to repeatedly draw a charcter, so some discretion is necessary. Production/wardrobe designers can get crazy with the eye candy.
In a Cap movie I think the costume would be faithful to the WW2 era but get pretty detailed and slick in the modern. (not that I follwed that theory in the least) I think there will be lots of different surface textures and probably a scaling back of the armour-type seen in batman/watchmen.
they may even ditch the mask (why would he need one, really)

 

[RAMORE]

good question the mask isn't really necessary for him it's just always been done.

 

[camp Blood]

i always thought that the mask provided protection for his brain. honestly if they 86 the mask i would be pissed. also if its not ww2 its gonna suck balls

 

[Syncos]

The interesting thing that I've noticed is that movie versions are very busy. The reason for the difference seems to be partially because a penciler has to repeatedly draw a charcter, so some discretion is necessary. Production/wardrobe designers can get crazy with the eye candy.
In a Cap movie I think the costume would be faithful to the WW2 era but get pretty detailed and slick in the modern. (not that I follwed that theory in the least) I think there will be lots of different surface textures and probably a scaling back of the armour-type seen in batman/watchmen.
they may even ditch the mask (why would he need one, really)

Because as Steve Rogers, he's just a man. As Captain America, he's a symbol.

 

[Majik1387]

Pretty much.

 

[egarza]

i wonder if stark will be in charge of designing the new outfit in the movie(s)

 

[camp Blood]

yeah lets see some iron man redesigns . a warmachine with a abram's tank feel would be cool

 

[dansker]

Because as Steve Rogers, he's just a man. As Captain America, he's a symbol.

Yeah that doesnt really hold up as an agrument. I can see that with batman, spiderman etc but not cap. A 1/2 mask like Caps in the movie just wouldnt make sense in respect to purpose and it looks weird. Always has always will (ie Daredevil).

the mask is the very least symbolic aspect to the costume. In fact it verges on generic. Whats more identifiable than a persons face, especially in the modern culture of identity. Captain America, blond hair blues eyes and apple pie. The rest of the costume is very iconic.

 

[lixdexia]

Yeah that doesnt really hold up as an agrument. I can see that with batman, spiderman etc but not cap. A 1/2 mask like Caps in the movie just wouldnt make sense in respect to purpose and it looks weird. Always has always will (ie Daredevil).

the mask is the very least symbolic aspect to the costume. In fact it verges on generic. Whats more identifiable than a persons face, especially in the modern culture of identity. Captain America, blond hair blues eyes and apple pie. The rest of the costume is very iconic.

the mask is as iconic as the shield easily. save for the nose and ears cap's mask covers as much of his face as batman's. but the symbolic argument is EXTREMELY relevant here, without the mask he's a guy in a weird shirt with it he's made more than a man. cap with no mask is like this

as opposed to this

cap is one of those characters where the look IS the character

 

[camp Blood]

Yeah that doesnt really hold up as an agrument. I can see that with batman, spiderman etc but not cap. A 1/2 mask like Caps in the movie just wouldnt make sense in respect to purpose and it looks weird. Always has always will (ie Daredevil).

the mask is the very least symbolic aspect to the costume. In fact it verges on generic. Whats more identifiable than a persons face, especially in the modern culture of identity. Captain America, blond hair blues eyes and apple pie. The rest of the costume is very iconic.

superman's cape didn't serve any purpose. to me the real iconic part of cap's suit was the A and the wings on the mask without the A for all we know he cold be sporting a puerto rico costume

case in point this flag looks alot more like cap than the american flag

 

[lixdexia]

in my cap redesign i'm doing the mask is metal and acts as armor for is head. and i ahree cap with a mask is lame

like the ultimates 2 mask?

 

[camp Blood]

yes and no. not quite as helmet looking.

 

[Chris Wallace]

superman's cape didn't serve any purpose. to me the real iconic part of cap's suit was the A and the wings on the mask without the A for all we know he cold be sporting a puerto rico costume

case in point this flag looks alot more like cap than the american flag

That's moreso what Captain Bucky's suit looks like.

 

[dansker]

I can see the points given but I guess my position is more subjective. Although, I think the Mickey Mouse example is ridiculous. With Batman, I believe the silhouette of the mask is what dramatically sets it apart from caps. I dont think the two can be compared equally. An 'A' on the mask could be placed elsewhere. It is important though, i agree. A mask making him more than a man, as poetic as that seems, is more relevant to Batman which, was expressed quite clearly in the movie. I think that its important to remember that we're talking about a movie version. Plus a person with a name and a face, a visible identity, could argued to be a better symbol because they dont suffer from anonymity.

In regards to Superman's cape, I agree it doesnt serve any functional purpose. It does serve an artistically visual purpose to show dynamic motion of the character in live action/2D. It also reinforces the regal/saviour qualities of the character.
Colour Scheme is a good point. I would point out that the 'A' could be Australia. I realize thats a stretch but it works.
All in all in entirely open to opinion. I am interested to see how the artist here and the designers for the movie address the entire concept and reasoning behind the costume.

 

[camp Blood]

all i'm saying is the without and A caps costume would look to much like the puerto rico flag. plus it can possibly offer protection of some kind.

i understand that the mask dosen't look very important but in the end it is as key part of the costume simply because its what we recognize as the captain america costume, and wallace i think that costume is lame . way to much black. like i hated the black superman costume