Marvel Films The Marvel Studios News and Discussion Thread

[psylockolussus]

If Marvel Studios "plans" to release 3 to 4 movies from 2025 to 2030, that would be 18 to 24 movies in just siX years. With how The Marvels performed, releasing more than 2 movies isn't just sustainable anymore, and 2 movies per year is already a lot anyway especially compare to 98% of movie franchises out there. There are gonna be more boX office flops along the way, if they don't chop certain projects.

The Disney+ streaming side, its harder to say. I think cartoons like What If?, Spider-Man: Freshman Year (I forgot the new title), X-Men '97, Marvel Zombies and Eyes of Wakanda won't dillute interest in upcoming MCU films in theaters. Maybe there's like 10% chance they would, but not similar to the live action Mcu series. Nova, Silver Surfer, Ghost Rider - I've seen those being rumoured for Disney+ and I hope they don't happen and save those in the movies.

 

[Venom 1988]

If Marvel Studios "plans" to release 3 to 4 movies from 2025 to 2030, that would be 18 to 24 movies in just siX years. With how The Marvels performed, releasing more than 2 movies isn't just sustainable anymore, and 2 movies per year is already a lot anyway especially compare to 98% of movie franchises out there. There are gonna be more boX office flops along the way, if they don't chop certain projects.

They're not going back to 2 movies a year. The main reason we're only getting 1 next year and 4 in 2025 is due to the strikes (and even then I wouldn't be surprised if 1 of those gets pushed to 2026). I don't see them doing a 4 movies year after that. They are probably going to be sticking to 3, which is fine. And if they budget their movies more conversavitely going forward, then that's going to lesson the blow. Plus if some of these movies are going to be r-rated, they're not going to be spending $200 million on them.

 

[Iceman]

Another thing is, they have too many characters now. Unless they team up, the gap between appearances is getting too big for audiences to care.

Yep, so the regular team up films become even more important at the time they’ve stopped doing them. Up to Endgame there had been 4 large-scale team up films in 5 years. There should have been an Avengers film by now, maybe a Young Avengers too.

 

[DyeLorean]

Yep, so the regular team up films become even more important at the time they’ve stopped doing them. Up to Endgame there had been 4 large-scale team up films in 5 years. There should have been an Avengers film by now, maybe a Young Avengers too.

Even something like Thunderbolts a year ago would've helped. A big event film, fresh interactions.
It feels like they keep introducing characters and plot lines and more characters and more after-credits teases and yet nothing exciting is coming along.

 

[Iceman]

Even something like Thunderbolts a year ago would've helped. A big event film, fresh interactions.
It feels like they keep introducing characters and plot lines and more characters and more after-credits teases and yet nothing exciting is coming along.

Yeah, it doesn’t have to be only Avengers. Midnight Suns, Defenders, Young Avengers or any ways for multiple different characters to meet each other and interact would have helped. The MCU cultivated a huge USP and then just dropped it at the time when they needed it.

 

[psylockolussus]

If they kept the 3 year gap for Avengers, Avengers 5 should have been out last May. I'm not including 2020 to the count, for obvious reasons.

I disagree about Thunderbolts. The line up they've announced doesn't feel like a line up for an event movie. The Marvels was essentially a team up featuring fresh interactions feat. characters they've introduced in the Disney+ shows. Its Captain Marvel 2 but it was a team up, yet it flopped. Thunderbolts could have been in the same situation if it was released this year or last month.

In my opinion, they should fast track Avengers 5 in order to regain the interest of the public, whether its Avengers Secret Wars or Avengers: World War Hulk. Thunderbolts/Blade/Brave New World/Fantastic 4 won't eXactly regain the interest of the gp in 2025. If they could, they would have to be eXceptionally good, but Brave New World is having massive rewrites/reshoots, Blade sounded like a mess from that Variety report, Thunderbolts' line up is composed of b-tier mcu characters we already saw in the past (I don't think they would generate a lot of eXcitement when the marketing roll out began) and Fantastic Four doesn't have a good track record in the past. So they really need a new Spider-Man and Avengers asap. And they could use those two, in order to build up interest for F4, Blade, Thunderbolts and movies that are coming in 2026.

 

[Iceman]

Hopefully Echo turns out to be good to give the MCU a bit of life support. At least it’s looking better than it was before we had that first trailer.

 

[DyeLorean]

Hopefully Echo turns out to be good to give the MCU a bit of life support.

 

[Venom 1988]

My guess is scheduling issues cause of the delays from the strikes. I think the whole reason why he came on the project was due to the guys from Beef working on this, so I don't think he's leaving due to them.

 

[Iceman]

My guess is scheduling issues cause of the delays from the strikes. I think the whole reason why he came on the project was due to the guys from Beef working on this, so I don't think he's leaving due to them.

A shame. I guess all these delays could lead to more scheduling issues.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[emielaen]

Defendersverse is wild

 

[Primal Slayer]

He needs to go to the Weisman school of continuity.

"Similar events happened in the MCU but not 100% the same "

 

[DyeLorean]

Try to explain any of this to a grandparent.

 

[OrbOfConfusion]

Won't be long until Jeph Loeb is dusted off to say "It was always connected."

Also, contrast to this, wasn't it James Gunn who suggested that no Marvel TV shows before Wandavision were canon? Not that one exec's take is more valid than the rest.

 

[psylockolussus]

Its part of the Sacred timeline until Kevin Feige said so.

They had MCU Timeline book released, and the Defendersverse wasn't included in the Sacred timeline.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[OrbOfConfusion]

It's not 100 percent Marvel-related, but at least adjacent:

Jonathan Majors Sits Down For Interview With ABC News Live’s Linsey Davis

Jonathan Majors sat down for an interview with Linsey Davis of ABC News Live, his first since he was found guilty last month of assault and harassment of ex-girlfriend Grace Jabbari.

In the wake of his conviction, Disney/Marvel Studios, a sister division to ABC, dropped him from the Marvel universe.

ABC News will be giving the interview a lot of play. It will premiere on Good Morning America on Monday, and will air across other network platforms including GMA3: What You Need To Know. An extended version will stream on ABC News Live’s Prime with Linsey Davis that evening, and ABC News Studios’ IMPACT x Nightline will stream a half hour special with more from the interview. That will be posted on Hulu starting on Jan. 11.

 

[Venom 1988]

It's not 100 percent Marvel-related, but at least adjacent:

Jonathan Majors Sits Down For Interview With ABC News Live’s Linsey Davis

I'll be ready with the popcorn.

 

[psylockolussus]

A shame. I guess all these delays could lead to more scheduling issues.

Probably best to pause Thunderbolts and go back at it, when Marvel Studios is fully recovered from quality drop/boX office decline.

Also, the cast for Fantastic 4 hasn't been announced yet and we are now in 2024... we are definitely not getting 4 MCU films neXt year. I want to see F4 asap, but I don't feel optimistic as the weeks go by. The reshoots for Brave New World better make that film better.

 

[Spider-Fan]

If they kept the 3 year gap for Avengers, Avengers 5 should have been out last May. I'm not including 2020 to the count, for obvious reasons.

I disagree about Thunderbolts. The line up they've announced doesn't feel like a line up for an event movie. The Marvels was essentially a team up featuring fresh interactions feat. characters they've introduced in the Disney+ shows. Its Captain Marvel 2 but it was a team up, yet it flopped. Thunderbolts could have been in the same situation if it was released this year or last month.

In my opinion, they should fast track Avengers 5 in order to regain the interest of the public, whether its Avengers Secret Wars or Avengers: World War Hulk. Thunderbolts/Blade/Brave New World/Fantastic 4 won't eXactly regain the interest of the gp in 2025. If they could, they would have to be eXceptionally good, but Brave New World is having massive rewrites/reshoots, Blade sounded like a mess from that Variety report, Thunderbolts' line up is composed of b-tier mcu characters we already saw in the past (I don't think they would generate a lot of eXcitement when the marketing roll out began) and Fantastic Four doesn't have a good track record in the past. So they really need a new Spider-Man and Avengers asap. And they could use those two, in order to build up interest for F4, Blade, Thunderbolts and movies that are coming in 2026.

Ain't no way you can fast track an Avengers movie for 2025 or 2026 at this point. Too big a scale to get that done. They'd already have to have been far into pre-production to have accomplished that.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Probably best to pause Thunderbolts and go back at it, when Marvel Studios is fully recovered from quality drop/boX office decline.

Also, the cast for Fantastic 4 hasn't been announced yet and we are now in 2024... we are definitely not getting 4 MCU films neXt year. I want to see F4 asap, but I don't feel optimistic as the weeks go by. The reshoots for Brave New World better make that film better.

They're not pausing Thunderbolts cause 1 actor backed out. They'll be replaced

 

[Pennywise]

 

[BobJM]

Shang-Chi teaming with Luke Cage in a sequel would be fun— Shang-Chi: Hero for Hire.

 

[Iceman]

Some great content (along with some ok content) that can be a great asset to the MCU. Now bring along all the best cast and crew from the Netflix shows to help out the Marvel shows.