The Matrix Trilogy

[chaseter]

Amazing how this franchise mirrored the Pirates franchise:

1st Movie - Classic
2nd Movie - Meh. Solid at best.
3rd Movie - An Abomination

Agreed...I liked the 2nd movie but the 3rd movie was a hardcore suckfest. And of course the first is a classic.

 

[The Shredder]

The first was nothing short of spectacular. Surely, a modern classic.

The sequel, while entertaining and dazzling, was a bit of a dropoff from the original Matrix. But still a good film, IMHO. And one that's good enough to be worthy of being the sequel to The Matrix.

With the 2nd sequel, the film had it's moments, but for the most part the downward spiral really took a nosedive with this film I am afraid. While I enjoyed the movie for what it was, it's definately the one out of the series that is seen by the consensus as the lesser of the two sequels (and to some, evils) out of the Matrix sequels.

 

[Porygon]

The sequels were good films, but they are heavily overshadowed by the first, and so appear to be much worse than they actually are.

 

[L0ngsh0t]

I think Reloaded is very solid

but a movie is only as good as its whole, and it pt 1 of a 2 pt movie, and Revolutions is terrible

 

[L0ngsh0t]

Amazing how this franchise mirrored the Pirates franchise:

1st Movie - Classic
2nd Movie - Meh. Solid at best.
3rd Movie - An Abomination

I don't disagree with this with Matrix, and to an extent with Pirates but I would say this

1-classic
2-very solid (these first two hold true for both pirates and matrix imo)
3-(here is where the two franchises differ) Matrix=unwatchable, Pirates=dissapointing

the big redeeming quality in Pirates for me is they save the best for last, the best action sequence in the franchise is the last thing they do really, in Matrix the last fight sequence may very well be the worst fighting ever, I have said many times to friends and what not that it is remiscent of the epic battle at the end of pokemon the movie mew vs mewtwo

I liked some of Pirates and the stuff I liked of it I thought was awesome, just the stuff i didn't like in it got in the wahy, I liked none of Matrix revolutions

 

[DeaDheaD]

1-One of a kind
2-Great
3-WTF????

 

[nocomics]

Amazing how this franchise mirrored the Pirates franchise:

1st Movie - Classic
2nd Movie - Meh. Solid at best.
3rd Movie - An Abomination

Don't ya mean the Pirates franchised mirrored the Matrix franchise

I enjoyed most of the trilogies for the most part.
Matrix: what can ya say it was pretty much an original flick when it came out. Mind blowing graphics,deep dark themed,end of world type stuff etc..

Reloaded: It was good overall. Great action sequences,great visuals. Down side was the story,it was jumpy and did'nt make alot of sence. I dont think the handled Neo right he always seemed confused. It made his character look weak and stupid. It needed more on the back story of zion,the other 'ones',not just the lame,confused explanation made by the 'architect'.

Revolutions: I also enjoyed this movie,did like the battles in the dock. All fight scenes with neo/smith were good. The train station sequence was odd it felt out of place. I also didnt like the whole cross-world powers stuff. I didnt like the whole 'jesus' type take with neo,more on the lines they did a bad job of it overall(the combination of him acting like a dumbass all the time,all brawn no brains). Lastly,a very minor thing,but to me it was sort of major. When everyone said their goodbyes,I was disappointed there was no dialog between morphious and Trinity. I mean they were together the longest of the bunch,and i would of liked to seen some interaction in that respect..
Overall it was a decent trilogy just had some small issues with story line and character development.

 

[Erzengel]

90s to the present with the exception of LOTR and Potter show that these franchises can't do a hat trick.

 

[Damiean Dark]

Pirates got far too serious, thats what ruined it the first was a slightly tongue in cheek movie but the sequels where far to dark alienating the mass appeal of the first movie.

 

[Masteryada]

Ha ha. Pretty much sums up how I feel about them.

 

[dark_b]

reloaded and revolutions is one movie. its not like back to the future or LOTR of maybe POTC. its one movie cut in half. its one movie cut in half. saying that you dont like revolutions is like i dont like the second half of the matrix sequel. i respect that.

but its one movie.

 

[DorkyFresh]

Matrix was ****, nuff said. Matrix Reloaded was a straight parody of the Matrix. Matrix Revolutions was a Star Wars (Battle of Zion) and DBZ (Neo vs Smith) hybrid with a corny/unresolved ending...

...i love them all because they're great eye candy, but part 1 was the only one of the 3 that should've been made.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The trilogy should have stopped with the first one

Ding ding ding, we have a winna.

 

[Cinemaman]

Pirates got far too serious, thats what ruined it the first was a slightly tongue in cheek movie but the sequels where far to dark alienating the mass appeal of the first movie.

I guess Verbinsky & Co just wanted to develop the whole story, so we wouldn't get every another film of this franchise being similar to the previous one. But I always had that feeling of POTC falling into The Matrix category, because I just hate all that "back-to-back filiming" stuff. Worse, there wasn't any good joke in AWE at all (I still can't forget how crappy was that sequence with Jack and his "clons", as it was a poor mix of both Ice Age and again The Matrix 2)

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I liked POTC2 well enough even though it wasn't as good as the first one but the 3rd was just hugely disappointing and I hated that scene to cinemaman.

 

[Cinemaman]

I liked POTC2 well enough even though it wasn't as good as the first one but the 3rd was just hugely disappointing and I hated that scene to cinemaman.

I feel you, it was one of the worst parts of the movie (even ending scene with all that "one day a year" crap didn't get me so pissed!)

 

[L0ngsh0t]

I guess Verbinsky & Co just wanted to develop the whole story, so we wouldn't get every another film of this franchise being similar to the previous one. But I always had that feeling of POTC falling into The Matrix category, because I just hate all that "back-to-back filiming" stuff. Worse, there wasn't any good joke in AWE at all (I still can't forget how crappy was that sequence with Jack and his "clons", as it was a poor mix of both Ice Age and again The Matrix 2)

i liked the QED joke

 

[black_dust]

Ding ding ding, we have a winna.

Oooooo what do i win? If its a Matrix box set you can keep it

 

[L0ngsh0t]

90s to the present with the exception of LOTR and Potter show that these franchises can't do a hat trick.

and to an extent they aren't even really doing it

its not like they where able to come up with a movie trilogy, they just had well written literature to make the movies off of

I think Die Hard has pulled off the quad very nicely and that is all 90's I believe...or was the first late 80's....whatever its all the same

and Star Wars I think did its second trilogy very well even though reviews where lackluster for the first and underratedly mediocre for the second, the first is clearly the worst of the 6, but if you break it down how many comic book movies has the first chapter in the story been the best? or sci-fi (Star Wars OT, Terminator, Alien, X-men, Batman, Superman, most would say Spider-man and LOTR I think most would say their second movies are all superior to the first)

and I think Attack of Clones suffered from huge Phantom Menace syndrome, I think it is better than Jedi (don't stone me!) I'm aware most don't agree, but it has one of the most interesting stand alone stories I think cause it is pretty much the underworld of the the Empire rose

and then Revenge of the Sith is the masterpiece

so i definately think you can throw the other star wars trilogy in there too

 

[L0ngsh0t]

reloaded and revolutions is one movie. its not like back to the future or LOTR of maybe POTC. its one movie cut in half. its one movie cut in half. saying that you dont like revolutions is like i dont like the second half of the matrix sequel. i respect that.

but its one movie.

I agree I think the same goes with Pirates though

I wish what they'd have done with Pirates is cut all the fat out of both movies and just make one like 3 hr15 minute sequel that would have been far better than the two halves they put out, and completely put the focus on Jack and Jones

 

[Erzengel]

However, unlike Matrix, Pirates was still able to find an audience even with lesser than the original, sequels.

 

[Bishop2]

I loved them all to some extent, but Revolutions definitely has problems. I wish more people appreciated just how intelligent Reloaded was, on the other hand - without ever once erasing or ignoring continuity, it makes everything you believed at the end of the first film turn out wrong and totally twists the universe on its head. It's one of my favorite sequels because it was just so damn smart, plus the action and music are amazing.

However, unlike Matrix, Pirates was still able to find an audience even with lesser than the original, sequels.

Reloaded was the biggest hit of the three.

 

[L0ngsh0t]

However, unlike Matrix, Pirates was still able to find an audience even with lesser than the original, sequels.

Pirates is also PG-13 and has colorful characters

Also like I said earlier, Pirates was still able to save the coolest action thing the franchise did for last, where as that isn't the case with the matrix saving their worst fight for last

Pirates was able to salvage where as Matrix was not imo

 

[Erzengel]

and to an extent they aren't even really doing it

its not like they where able to come up with a movie trilogy, they just had well written literature to make the movies off of

I think Die Hard has pulled off the quad very nicely and that is all 90's I believe...or was the first late 80's....whatever its all the same

and Star Wars I think did its second trilogy very well even though reviews where lackluster for the first and underratedly mediocre for the second, the first is clearly the worst of the 6, but if you break it down how many comic book movies has the first chapter in the story been the best? or sci-fi (Star Wars OT, Terminator, Alien, X-men, Batman, Superman, most would say Spider-man and LOTR I think most would say their second movies are all superior to the first)

and I think Attack of Clones suffered from huge Phantom Menace syndrome, I think it is better than Jedi (don't stone me!) I'm aware most don't agree, but it has one of the most interesting stand alone stories I think cause it is pretty much the underworld of the the Empire rose

and then Revenge of the Sith is the masterpiece

so i definately think you can throw the other star wars trilogy in there too

Sorta. I mean I agree Sith outdid both ATOC and TPM.

But in regards to X-Men, Spider-Man, Blade, Terminator, even throw in Godfather. And you have an original movie, an arguably superior sequel and a lackluster 3rd movie.

Matrix just goes from great to worst.

Pirates slumped majorly with the 2nd movie and I think the action of the 3rd made it at least better than the 2nd.

In regards to LOTR and Potter only succeeding because it's based on existing novels, how is it any different than a screenplay? Just because they are taken from a well done story doesn't necessarily give it an advantage.

Just because say a Matrix and Pirates are taken from original screenplays shouldn't excuse them from the same sort of standards.

 

[Erzengel]

Pirates is also PG-13 and has colorful characters

Also like I said earlier, Pirates was still able to save the coolest action thing the franchise did for last, where as that isn't the case with the matrix saving their worst fight for last

Pirates was able to salvage where as Matrix was not imo

I thought the fight between Smith and Neo at the end was well done. Because all I thought was.....Superman. The conclusion is the problem.

Of course we saw where that went. Anywho, Matrix's problems are they tried to be too smart and pretentious for the room. They should have stuck with the basics. Kinda like Pirates, instead of trying to be some sort of epic tale, they should have stuck with the fun, popcorn aspect of the first.