The Dark Knight The new and improved Mr. Reese thread

[LarBrd33]

Wait, so people hated the character of reese. Arent you supposed to hate villians????

Im actually currently siding in the middle...meaning that I think there will be a mystery about who the Riddler is and that reese will be a red herring for the audience.

That's how I'm looking at it too.

But yeah man I wanted Reese to bite it too. He has a little punk vibe to him that just made me grind my teeth. But that's the point!!

Like Percy from "The Green Mile" (see above)

Series needs something like that, honestly.

Ra's Al Ghul? - Loved him. He was like a father figure. Liked him way too much.
Scarecrow? - Come on, Cillian Murphy was badass. He was nuts... loved him. Good times
Joker? - Lol... seriously? I think more fanboys were rooting for him than Batman.
Two-Face? - HOw can you not sympathize with this guy? Poor Harvey Dent. Poor Harvey Dent. I feel for him. I feel for him.

And now Reese/The Riddler - Finally a character we can hate. That's the point boys

 

[LarBrd33]

ah...after the powerhouse of a masterpiece I would be very very angry and may have to preform the Pencil trick if the next film involves the riddler and have this guy play him.

To me the Riddler is a boar. sorry, he works well in the books but there is nothing exciting about the man..ooo, a guy who gives up then his incriminating riddle is solved.

Sorry but to have that as an ending to this trilogy, is a weak and water logged idea.

This film was epic beyond the definition - to follow it up with "Oh remember that guy, who was named after a candy company? Well he's still pist about being thwarted in his attempt to black mail Bruce Wayne out of Ten Million Dollars a year for life has become the Riddler, and plans to...um...to um...er...oh hold the city for ransom or else he'll tell everyone that Bruce Wayne is batman. only to have bruce wayne once again thwart the guy at the end by showing the city that he's not the batman by means of some super cleaver way..."

PFFFFTTTT

Look, This Reese guy...I think he has come to understand what bruce is all about when bruce could have killed the guy (in theroy) instead he saved the guy. from being killed. a hit that the joker set up. I think that the guy has gotten wise to what Bruce is about.

Nuff said...

Just to answer your concerns in a general commentary... The Joker can not be topped. Plain and simple. But the story, and the mystery for the 3rd can still be great. The detective aspect of Batman's character can be great. And Nolan loves twists. He has had twists in pretty much ALL of his films. So if they focus on a fantastic story, who cares. But to tie up the trilogy... I think Reese/Riddler will be a good story arc and problem for Batman... but I really can't imagine this 3 part story ending without Ra's Al Ghul making a "surprising" return. Thank god this is a spoiler forum...

Graves, you're thinking too linear. Have some faith in Nolan. But as an interpretation of The Riddler, I'm comfortable with the Reese direction. That's not to say the movie would be all about The Riddler. He'd just be one aspect of the Gotham crime situation that Batman has to deal with in the final chapter of the trilogy.

 

[LarBrd33]

duplicate

 

[Lazlo Panaflex]

they said his name in the film. It began with a c but I can't recall. It was something like campbell reese

I think it was Coleman.

 

[AgentGraves!]

I don't know, I think that would make for a greater story. and a greater challenge for Nolan.

Great because he would have to find a way to bring Ra's Back and use the Laz pit in a realistic way. And would give Batman to lust for, not only Talia but the want and need to bring back his family, his life...in a sense.


I really can't see the "candy man" making a good riddler. I agree when some others on here say that the "candy man" was only to move the plot and to answer the question that some had that some one some where must see these waynetec items out on the streets and I think The "candy man" was the answer to that.

 

[LarBrd33]

I don't know, I think that would make for a greater story. and a greater challenge for Nolan.

Great because he would have to find a way to bring Ra's Back and use the Laz pit in a realistic way. And would give Batman to lust for, not only Talia but the want and need to bring back his family, his life...in a sense.


I really can't see the "candy man" making a good riddler. I agree when some others on here say that the "candy man" was only to move the plot and to answer the question that some had that some one some where must see these waynetec items out on the streets and I think The "candy man" was the answer to that.

No lazarus pit. It can be implied for the fanboys, but would never fly in Nolan's world. Last we saw him he was closing his eyes jedi style as the train was heading for doom. BUt the dude's a master ninja. I dont' think anyone will be too shocked to see him live even without explanation. No body was found... guy just hopped out at the last second. lol

And don't get nervous over an actor who obviously none of us know anything about. I only found one other youtube video of Joshua Harto (linked above) and the guy definitely seemed interesting in it. Can't judge the acting skills of someone we've seen 3 scenes of in a subdued role. Nolan knows what he's doing. Funny people here hated the Ledger casting at first. I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of this guy playing The Riddler outright.

 

[bkey]

If Coleman Reese becomes the Riddler, then Nolan better have a pretty epic story planned for BB3.

I seriously doubt Reese will be the Riddler. He seems like a ***** to me, and I completely agree with what AgentGraves! was saying about how he now knows what Bruce Wayne is all about after he saved his life.

Unfortunately, I see this thread turning into the new AMH threads, surviving until either:
A) Joshua Harto does not reprise his role in BB3, or
B) the day the movie comes out people see he's not the Riddler.

Also, the Mr. Reese sounding like Mystery/Mr. E is worse than Mike Engel=Mr. E=Teh Riddlerz

 

[Beanjuice]

i can se him being a future villain,but if he knows that bruce is batman what kind of problems can that pose to bruce if he does become a villain

 

[Heretic]

Again, maybe they are both red herrings for the mystery of part 3? This is really early guessing of course. I wouldnt mind seeing a Hush like story...with the Riddler playing the role of a minor nuissance, like Falcone.

 

[MAb]

Because AMH is a washed up actor, and doesn't deserve more than 5 minutes of screentime.

*snicker*

 

[DanTheDevil]

Hmm... I can see Reese becoming the Riddler. And why do people think that if he is the Riddler, he has to carry the whole movie? There has been more than one major villain in the past two movies, why would the third movie be any different? He could be tormenting Batman while another villain torments Gotham, and Batman has to juggle the two.

 

[P.F. Geraci]

Ah, a more appropriate thread for the information I have in hand.

Mr. Reese is actually an original villain set up for the third film. I can get in a lot of trouble for giving out this information, but:

Spoiler

He combines milk chocolate and peanut butter into cup form. Sometimes into little M&M-like configurations as well. Scary **** if you ask me.

Please don't tell the WB I told you this.

 

[BxB402]

Reese is too stupid to become the Riddler. Come on now people.

As to the last post, ROFLCOPTER!

 

[Nevark]

I caught it the first time, and i know i caught it again the 2nd time, did yall not hear fox breaking apart reese's speech like it was a riddle over the tv, i cant remember exactly where is was, but fox was sitting at his desk watching the tv breaking apart his speech when his secretary interrupts to tell him something, wanst that reese on the tv?

 

[BxB402]

Nevark...it was at wayne industries. Reese noticed discrepancies in paperwork and stuff and figured out wayne was batman by all the equiptment being used. Then fox basically said "so you're going to try to blackmail a young billionaire that spends his nights beating people with his bare hands" and Pwned him. You can tell he's an idiot, definatly not Riddler material. In no way was any of it riddle-like. Do any of you even pay attention to the movies you see or just stare blankly at the screen and watch the pretty pictures? Or talk on phones...some beyatch sitting next to me took a a call in the middle of it..freaking people.

 

[Nevark]

the scene i am talking about is well after that!

 

[samsnee]

I don't know what makes me pull my hair out more. People who think Two-Face is alive, because "OMG, he can't be dead! He's too good a villain to die" or people believing that they've already set up Riddler for the third even though not a single word has leaked out about any script being written. I highly doubt they'd cast someone as a villain without even knowing how they want to interpret him yet.

 

[Nevark]

i remember now, the secretary alerted fox that someone had broken in to the room where the huge sonar computer thing was, sorry i do not remember the correct name of the room. seconds before that happen fox was watching GCN and seemed to be forming a riddle with his words, the guy on GCN was mr. reese if my memory serves me correct.

 

[TripXyDE]

REESE

I don't think that he was put there in order to become this potential villain some might think. I think he was put there by Nolan to play on the possibility of anybody finding out the secret identity of Bats, and what kinds of dilemma one would have if anybody knew that secret. That knowing the secret of the Bats would complicate one's life.

well he's a very interesting character... ever since after I saw the movie, me and my buddies were wondering, now that Fox has resigned, Reese might become a really close ally of the Bats (instead of a villain). Someone who would work "under the shadow of the Bat"

But then again one flaw of the Reese character is his greed. But then again, after what he's been through, he could have easily learned his lesson. The slight nod and stare of understanding between Bruce & Reese at the Lamborghini crash scene gives away the possibility that the 2 might get along after all.

 

[Duppy]

It's definately an option to make him the Riddler. His character can either go one of two ways

1) Shows his appreciation and respect towards Bruce after almost being killed by multiple people in a matter of one hour. He could take over Lucius' place definately in some compacity. He appears to be smart as he discovered the tumbler and whatnot, so he's no dummy and could help cover up some secrets for bruce/batman.

2) His greed takes over and he could end up being the Riddler. He is a manipulator, a blackmailer, a guy who wants more from this world and will do whatever is takes to get it. Him knowing Batmans identity could be his greatest weapon and for it he could demand batman stand aside while he takes over Gotham

Theres a third option too though, even though he has proof and people will believe anything, he could play neither of those roles and tell people that Bruce is Batman, and be met with mockery and ridicule as people would think thats the most obsurd thing they've ever heard. That could lead him to being the Riddler as well or make him hide from the public out of embarrassment

 

[Clarks25]

For people out there saying they don't think Reese/Riddler could be the major villain in the third movie, my question would be: What villain CAN be the major villain then? With Joker (They can't recast that performance) and Two-Face (come on he HAS to be dead) gone, what major and realistic villain would you suggest since Penguin won't be done? Personally I tend to side with those who think that the Riddle could definitely be a side villain type role, and that maybe another side villain will be added to combine with the public hunting Batman in the third.
To me, I think Mr. Reese (mysteries) has to be an indicator that he's the Riddler. It's sort of Nolan's version of the E.Nygma name, because there's no way Nolan would ever allow someone's name to be as lame and predictable as E. Nygma, so he goes with Mr. Reese instead. I dunno, it just makes too much sense to me, especially because he is referred to constantly as Mr. Reese, and is the first person that Batman doesn't trust to learn his secret identity, meaning he needs to play some kind of a role in 3.

 

[Brian2887]

I could really see Reese turning out to be a basically unseen Riddler. With riddles appearing in newspapers, on tv, across the city, whatever - while Riddler is never shown. Batman's gotta figure out who the bastard is. In that instance, casting a star as a background character who is, surprise!, the Riddler, wouldn't make much sense at all. I could see Riddler used as a Zodiac-style serial killer..

 

[AnorexicBatman]

Maybe
Mr. Reese finally loses it after people make fun of him and becomes the RIDDLER!!!
I want him to be more like Tobin Bell though

"I'm no murderer Batman! I don't kill people like the Joker. I give them a chance to redeem themselves, can I help it if everyone besides you and me in this town are idiots"

 

[thatguyinmotown]

Why hasn't anyone brought up the fact that Nolan, while he has taken a few liberties, has been pretty true to source material with shoutouts to TLH and such? This includes CHARACTER NAMES.

The Riddler is Edward Nashton/Edward Nygma...not, um, Coleman Reese.

 

[bkey]

Reese though is an Accountant who, while checking the numbers, sees that there are some descrepancies, and happens to find the plans for the Tumbler. After being humiliated by Fox, he tries to go on GCN and reveal Batman's identity, but the Joker puts a deathwish on him.

To me he really didn't come off as being extremely intelligent. Also, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that he is a man somehow obsessed with riddles and mysteries. Sure he knows Wayne is Batman, but other than that there are really no similarities at all between Coleman Reese and the Riddler.