Jones is fine. Yes she seems like angry black woman we've seen so many times but to be honest I couldn't buy her as a scientist.
I don't think it looks horrible. I just don't think it looks necessary. I have the same feeling as I did after the Total Recall and Robocop reboot trailers. Some nice shiny new stuff, but doesn't look like it will have the same charm.
This just needed a better group of female comedians, and they should have went with the passing the torch story line. I don't understand why they felt the need to reboot it.
This just needed a better group of female comedians, and they should have went with the passing the torch story line. I don't understand why they felt the need to reboot it.
I don't understand the hate towards Feig on this one. He didn't stop the old cast from coming back with a new idea. Half of them aren't. Murray is in his own world now. He wanted to be a ghost. He wasn't going to pull a Star Wars.
To be fair even keeping it in the same universe with just a cameo from Dan aykroyd as Ray would have been better then a nostalgic gimmick full reboot, esp when everything about it feels exactly the same anyway but with brand new but similar characters
It's just gonna be a lot of disguised nostalgia through out
If all you're going to import from the original is the theme music and a few of the props, then yes.
There is no reason for this to be called Ghostbusters. The only similarities are that it's a comedy and they use the title, the music (sort of) and a few things like the car and the proton packs. Nobody from the first movie had anything to do with this one and it acts as if the first movie didn't happen. So why did it have to be Ghostbusters?
If you're going to get rid of so much of the original, you might as well go all the way and get rid of ALL of it and do your own story with new ideas so you're not tied to someone else's concept. Do something completely your own. Don't ask for grief by copying a classic movie unless what you've got is as good or better, because otherwise you're going to get slammed.
That's just not the case. This isn't some slight resemblance. Based on the trailer, which really doesn't tell us that much...
-The logo, the name and the music.
-There's the horror/comedy/adventure tone.
-Slimer obviously makes an appearance.
-There's the technology and Eco-1. The jumpsuits.
-There are four team members starting a paranormal elimination business. Three scientists and a New York citizen.
-There's a threat involving ghosts being drawn to the mortal plane, specifically New York.
-We've seen that they will face a library ghost and have a scene at a hotel. Key sequences in the original film.
-Apparently the "love interest" gets possessed, along with other characters.
These aren't coincidental similarities. I'm willing to bet there are more similarities in the actual film. There will probably be some element of the Ghostbusters dealing with the government, being viewed negatively by their peers originally, etc.
It seems like a lot of people are looking at this concept through the lens of "this isn't what I wanted, I wanted the original guys!" VS assessing the concept on its own merits. It's all well and good to have wanted the original guys. I wanted the original guys. But judging this on that basis, instead of the actual content of this concept, seems sort of pointless.
As for this film not forging its own identity, which people have mentioned... you cannot, with a straight face, tell me that tonally and conceptually, this is exactly like the original Ghostbusters films. The tone is quite different, far more modern, fast-paced and flashy, the style of humor, at least in the trailer, is markedly different, and the overall concept appears to be broader in visual scope, with more variety of ghosts in general. There are definite similarities, but also some sizeable differences.
Leslie Jones is fighting back against the criticism. I really wish they hadn't used that Scene in the trailer...it gives the impression that her character is a one note walking stereotype.
And again...this portrayal is not an accident. They did not accidentally drop those sequences into the trailer when they cut it. This is the type of character people are used to her doing on SNL.
I just find Jones has no comic delivery. At first I thought it was because the skits on SNL are always less than stellar, but she really has no comedic talent from what I've seen.
Eh. She has excellent, excellent comic timing. She's apparently very highly regarded in the comedy circuit.
I really don't see the issue with her portrayal here. She's the everyman, just like Winston was, though it seems she will have a more active role here. And we've seen literally just the basics of her character.
Yeah seemed like typical shtick to me. Which isn't a bad thing honestly if it's done right. Leslie at the end of the trailer slapping Melissa twice and saying those lines, I cringed. Such an unfunny little shtick and bad way to end the trailer.
Rather than doing a good Ghostbusters Movie, that just happens to have an all female cast, this looks like a female comedy first, using the Ghostbusters nostalgia to sell more tickets.
Jango, your stance seems to be "just ignore the internet because a majority are just haters." I think what happened with Fantastic Four speaks volumes about internet criticism. The internet gave the world a mouth and if 90% says it's garbage, they may want to change the strategy.
The one issue I have with this movie will be if Aykroyd, Murray and Hudson reprised their roles, which would make Murray a big hypocrite because for years he's said no to playing Peter Venkman again and he might play Peter in this if he does reprise his role?
I hope he plays someone else as does Akyroyd and Hudson.
I'm fairly confident that the trailer was a frankenstein result of the studio doing testing.
I know you can't talk about it much blujake but I was wondering if you could confirm something. The youtuber who talked about the trailer testing mentioned a joke with McKinnon regarding Pringles that they didn't think played too well and was in all the trailers. I'm assuming that it's probably something like her making too much noise during that first ghost encounter. But did you think that would have been a good moment to keep? If anything right now McKinnon is the one we all want to see more of, so I find it odd they would cut her down.
I didn't know trailer test screening was a thing. Obviously I know studios test screen their movies all the time, but I didn't know they also tested trailers...I mean, so this trailer was the one that was rated better huh...
Yeah seemed like typical shtick to me. Which isn't a bad thing honestly if it's done right. Leslie at the end of the trailer slapping Melissa twice and saying those lines, I cringed. Such an unfunny little shtick and bad way to end the trailer.
Hell must have frozen over because for once I agree with you. The lame exorcist joke and the "that's gonna leave a mark" line has been used so many times elsewhere. I'm just hoping that's one of the takes they didn't use and it's only for the trailer.
I've played this trailer for so many of my friends and family members and the overwhelming response is that the only people who actually like it are my nieces and nephews who are 11 and 12, my sisters who are in their 40s, and my gay friends.
And when I share that information, everyone goes, "well I guess Sony is hitting their target demographic." Every trailer reaction I watch says the same thing. "Maybe I'm just not in the target demo."
So why is it that Marvel Studios can make a movie that appeals to EVERY demo? Obviously not everyone likes Marvel superhero movies, but I haven't met an entire "demographic" of people that doesn't like the Marvel films. They don't neglect anyone. They have good characters, tell a good story, and most of all they treat the subject matter AND the audience with respect. And what do you know, that seems like the recipe for a great film that doesn't exclude anyone.
I still think they need more female-lead Marvel films, but I digress. All of my female friends love the Marvel movies, even the ones that aren't really into superheroes.
The one issue I have with this movie will be if Aykroyd, Murray and Hudson reprised their roles, which would make Murray a big hypocrite because for years he's said no to playing Peter Venkman again and he might play Peter in this if he does reprise his role?
I hope he plays someone else as does Akyroyd and Hudson.
I see pretty much no way that the original cast cameos will be anything other than random cameos that have nothing to do with the original roles, unless they are planning some sort of crazy interdimensional, multiverse type of twist later on.
The way it's been set up though, it makes no sense if the Ghostbusters had previously existed in this universe despite the trailer's attempt to milk nostalgia.
Jones is fine. Yes she seems like angry black woman we've seen so many times but to be honest I couldn't buy her as a scientist.
I don't think it looks horrible. I just don't think it looks necessary. I have the same feeling as I did after the Total Recall and Robocop reboot trailers. Some nice shiny new stuff, but doesn't look like it will have the same charm.
Exactly. I get that there was no chance of a proper sequel, especially after Ramis passed. But when you do a remake, the onus is on them to make it feel like it's worth doing. I think most people would've been just fine at leaving the GB franchise untouched, so it's the film's job to sell us on the idea of remaking such a beloved classic.
The negative response really has nothing to do with the female cast, for me anyway. If you swapped the cast out for Seth Rogen, Paul Rudd, James Franco and Craig Robinson...I'm almost positive it would still get bashed, if the humor was roughly the same. For me the gender swap has nothing to do with it, it's simply the fact that the original cast was so special and had such great chemistry, it's a really hard hump to get over. That's why I was never even the biggest fan of the "passing the torch" style GB sequel. It just seems like there's no possible way to live up to it.
Yeah there's zero originality or personality. Ending on the "loud black woman screaming and slapping someone" gag is just sad for everyone involved. It looks like the definition of a studio cookie-cutter comedy.
Yeah there's zero originality or personality. Ending on the "loud black woman screaming and slapping someone" gag is just sad for everyone involved. It looks like the definition of a studio cookie-cutter comedy.
The original cast do not play their original roles, and none of them share any screen time with each other. Anyone that wants to know specifics is free to ask me privately.
I think this trailer has confused a lot of people. We've been told time and time again since the announcement of this movie began that it would be a reboot and not a continuation, but now after seeing the trailer people are starting to think that maybe that was a little bit of a ruse to throw people off.
None of us really know for sure, or will know until the movie comes out; but I wouldn't be surprised if this ended up being true.
Yeah there's zero originality or personality. Ending on the "loud black woman screaming and slapping someone" gag is just sad for everyone involved. It looks like the definition of a studio cookie-cutter comedy.
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