The New Ghostbusters - Part 8

[The Guard]

It's a recognizeable franchise, to be sure. But I'm always shocked at how many people, especially the younger generations, haven't seen it, or worse, don't like the original movies.

What's this about a crappy game? Have people played the game already?

This theme song cover isn't really my thing. But it's also just a cover that exists because, in situations like this, people expect a cover. It doesn't strike me as awful, and it doesn't strike me as great. It's a hip, modern "cover" of a classic song. How many of those are anywhere near as good as the original? Hoobastank did an ok metal version of the original theme a couple years ago, I guess.

I love the original song. But I love it because it's the Ghostbusters theme and I grew up with it, not because it was, in itself, a particularly great song. Structurally, it was fairly generic, repetitive, etc.

On another note, it is kind of amusing that the Ghostbusters theme song has a "so and so featuring so and so" going on. Sign of the times, I guess. I can't bring myself to care that much. I'm sure it will work fairly well in the context of the film. Sounds like a high-octane montage song or something.

 

[def28]

That's true. But, maybe it's just that I don't care much for Ghostbusters, so I don't really notice it's popularity outside of certain surface level stuff the same way I notice other franchises.

I do remember people wanting the Rogen and Apatow dudes (when they could do no wrong), I think.

My interest in the film as far as just simply reading and watching stuff about it mostly comes from the negativity it gets. If not for the title, this would have been something I wouldn't think much about. I mean, it looks bad, but not that bad to me. At least not to the levels people seem to be offended by it. And again, the veiled sexism.

Right, and that's kind of what's frustrating. All people talk about is the hate cause there isn't much going on otherwise. The second main trailer started changing my view a little bit but then I saw tv spots like this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1negKmCrBBk

That's just not how to get fans to this film. It looks more in tone to the Scary Movie franchise and just lowbrow stupid.

 

[Lencho01]

Right, and that's kind of what's frustrating. All people talk about is the hate cause there isn't much going on otherwise. The second main trailer started changing my view a little bit but then I saw tv spots like this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1negKmCrBBk

That's just not how to get fans to this film. It looks more in tone to the Scary Movie franchise and just lowbrow stupid.

The only things I've liked so far are the ghosts. I think they look pretty good for the most part. But, everything else is pretty meh for me.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

I have yet to see any footage or trailer from this movie that makes me think its going to be a good movie. I just think its clear to me that they took the wrong approach to rebooting Ghostbusters and the wrong approach to doing an all-female team.

Why does this movie look so uninspired and bland? Everything is obvious and lazy jokes and sight gags with no creativity or freshness. This movie looks like the definition of formulaic. Everything just feels so paint-by-numbers.

 

[bluejake01]

I actually like Fall Out Boy, well their older stuff, the newer stuff is just samples, drum machine, processed pop over distorted guitars. This cover wasn't the worst thing ever but certainly not particularly good or necessary - which is representative of the new movie. Corporate synergy folks!

Hey bluejake - did you see the newest trailer? The other day when we went to see Finding Dory they showed a new trailer which looked like new footage of the team testing out their tools in the an alley. Neither myself nor the person I was with at the screening remembered this scene.

Yup, brand new to me scenes. I'm having trouble placing where in the movie they would go. It does explain how Melissa McCarthy was proficient in using the new knuckle dusters during the climax. What's funny is I saw the new trailer the same way, when we went to see Finding Dory. My wife and son both confirmed that I didn't just block that scene out, and it was either held back from the test screening, or added in the re-shoots.

 

[Nathan]

Been listening to Midnight's Edge video from a month ago, and they make a good point why this Movie probably won't work. Paul Feig's strength is to make subversive parody Movies. In his words, no one would let him make a Bond or Bourne Movie, so he made his own and created Spy. And now that he finally got handed the keys to a main franchise with the Ghostbusters, instead of taking it seriously like he would a Bond or Bourne Movie and create a proper new installment in the Ghostbusters franchise, he's treating it like another of his subversive parodies.

 

[GuestStar2004]

That's true. But, maybe it's just that I don't care much for Ghostbusters, so I don't really notice it's popularity outside of certain surface level stuff the same way I notice other franchises.

thats because the franchise hasn't really done anything for a long time now so there really is nothing to make a huge fuss about apart from this reboot which isn't being all that well received

there was the ghostbusters video game back in 2009 which apparently sold really well.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Been listening to Midnight's Edge video from a month ago, and they make a good point why this Movie probably won't work. Paul Feig's strength is to make subversive parody Movies. In his words, no one would let him make a Bond or Bourne Movie, so he made his own and created Spy. And now that he finally got handed the keys to a main franchise with the Ghostbusters, instead of taking it seriously like he would a Bond or Bourne Movie and create a proper new installment in the Ghostbusters franchise, he's treating it like another of his subversive parodies.

This does look like a parody movie.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Excluding Indy and Star Wars which have continuations, I think the only other property this would be comparable to remaking would be Back To The Future. The backlash on making changes with that film would be just as severe if not worse down to the soundtrack.

I doubt it. BTTF ended. We saw the arc of Marty and Doc's story. There's nothing more to say about it.

I think it would be met with a "why bother?" by audiences.

Ghostbusters just faded after a bad sequel. I think they could have built a new Ghostbusters from scratch but it would have needed the right mix of actors and this wasn't it obviously.


The Vince Vaugh/Stiller era of the mid 2000s was the last time I think a NuGhostbusters could have been made.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Haha Zemeckis said he won't allow a remake luckily. I'm sure there's been a ton of studio execs trying to convince him otherwise. At this point it's almost the only one left from the 80's with this huge level of fandom.

Zemeckis and Gale have to approve, and they're still tight with Spielberg. They're safe.

 

[LostSon88]

Yup, they've said multiple times that BTTF will be remade "over their dead bodies."

We good.

 

[Nathan]

Yup, they've said multiple times that BTTF will be remade "over their dead bodies."

We good.

Well, 2016 has proven to be a very crappy year so far.

 

[Lord Valumart]

There is an ongoing BTTF comic that's co-written by Gale. And there was the "4th movie" game that was written by Gale...

 

[chamber-music]

There was also the BTTF animated series. BTTF fans have never really called for more BTTF movies or a reboot while Ghostbusters fans were calling for more sequels but ones that involved the original cast passing the torch rather than a complete remake/reboot.

 

[PyroChamber]

Been listening to Midnight's Edge video from a month ago, and they make a good point why this Movie probably won't work. Paul Feig's strength is to make subversive parody Movies. In his words, no one would let him make a Bond or Bourne Movie, so he made his own and created Spy. And now that he finally got handed the keys to a main franchise with the Ghostbusters, instead of taking it seriously like he would a Bond or Bourne Movie and create a proper new installment in the Ghostbusters franchise, he's treating it like another of his subversive parodies.

And that's the problem. I don't think he kept in mind the appeal of what made the movies great and just looked at them as goofy movies.

Also, anyone else think this movie will begin like the originals did; with an incident happening and the logo and original theme playing after the scene?

 

[bluejake01]

Also, anyone else think this movie will begin like the originals did; with an incident happening and the logo and original theme playing after the scene?

It kinda does...
Only the song is from a cheesy ghost hunting tv show and there was no logo on the version I saw.

 

[def28]

I doubt it. BTTF ended. We saw the arc of Marty and Doc's story. There's nothing more to say about it.

I think it would be met with a "why bother?" by audiences.

Ghostbusters just faded after a bad sequel. I think they could have built a new Ghostbusters from scratch but it would have needed the right mix of actors and this wasn't it obviously.


The Vince Vaugh/Stiller era of the mid 2000s was the last time I think a NuGhostbusters could have been made.

I would have much rather seen the likes of Rudd, Wiig, Bill Hader, Lizy Caplan, Jay Barauchel etc then Stiller and Vaughn in the roles. The past 5 years have been a good time for a possible Ghostsbuters.

Ghostsbutsers 3 has been in the works forever. It never faded completely it kept being brought up and was bound to happen again at some point.

This is a all a what if situation, but if there was a BTTF remake (not sequel) and there was no Marty or Emmett it would no doubt be hit instant backlash and hate. Too popular of characters and too classic of a film that fans don't want to see tarnished like the other poor remakes of the past decade. Fans of that film would not let that slide. That's just not how fandom works. Then the trolls who live for amplifying the hate would be having a field day. Having Zemeckis involved in a BTTF sequel of sorts in a passing of the torch scenario would be a completely different reaction.

 

[sueb1863]

i don't think anybody could really play Marty and Doc except Michael J. Fox and Christopher Lloyd. A remake or reboot would inevitably be inferior because the original was pretty much perfect and can't be improved upon. Kinda like Ghostbusters.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

i don't think anybody could really play Marty and Doc except Michael J. Fox and Christopher Lloyd. A remake or reboot would inevitably be inferior because the original was pretty much perfect and can't be improved upon. Kinda like Ghostbusters.

The thing is also, time travel comedy/stories are dime-a-dozen.

With something like Jurassic World, we don't get dinosaur movies every few years so even if the story didn't actually make sense (erasing the sequels) or not bring in the same characters, it still could rely on the novelty of CGI dinosaur mayhem.

BTTF iconography is just the DeLorean/theme song outside of Marty and Doc Brown.


Ghostbusters didn't need to do outdo the original, just make a reason for its existence that wasn't about representation.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I would have much rather seen the likes of Rudd, Wiig, Bill Hader, Lizy Caplan, Jay Barauchel etc then Stiller and Vaughn in the roles. The past 5 years have been a good time for a possible Ghostsbuters.

I actually would have gotten the SuperTrooper guys to do it at the time.

The thing is the style of comedies changes every decade. The style now that is popular isn't really good for a Ghostbuster remake. We're still in the 2 guys where hilarity ensues from their antics.

If I were going to make Ghostbusters now, I would have went left field and gotten
Wes Anderson to do it in the style of Life Aquatic.

 

[Kanon]

If I were going to make Ghostbusters now, I would have went left field and gotten
Wes Anderson to do it in the style of Life Aquatic.

Or... Something with Wright+Pegg+Frost

 

[def28]

I actually would have gotten the SuperTrooper guys to do it at the time.

The thing is the style of comedies changes every decade. The style now that is popular isn't really good for a Ghostbuster remake. We're still in the 2 guys where hilarity ensues from their antics.

If I were going to make Ghostbusters now, I would have went left field and gotten
Wes Anderson to do it in the style of Life Aquatic.

There are many different styles of comedy still though. What We Do In the Shadows, Trainwreck, This Is The End, Nice Guys, Ant-Man, GOTG, Deadpool, Central Intelligence and Popstar are all different.

I don't think the tone here is exactly what I would call modern humor or a good throw back to updating the originals. Wright would have been an interesting choice. If the Marvel films can pull off their genre blending and comedy in this decade so should a GB film.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

I still believe that instead of an all-female cast, they should really have gone with a mixed cast (2 men, 2 women.) I think that a directing/writer duo like Lord and Miller could have worked well for a Ghostbusters movie.

 

[def28]

They would have been great too!

 

[BeserkerHilf]

I still believe that instead of an all-female cast, they should really have gone with a mixed cast (2 men, 2 women.) I think that a directing/writer duo like Lord and Miller could have worked well for a Ghostbusters movie.

Except they were offered and quickly refused. They specialize in "This sounds awful on paper" and they avoided this? Red flag from the start.