The New Ghostbusters - Part 8

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The gender swap has nothing to do with my negative views on the new movie. The trailers and promotional material are. I was fine with this project. Until i saw the trailers. Just awful

I don't have a problem with the gender swap either. I just don't get the sense that they're handling the swap as gracefully as they think they are.
 
I was LITERALLY saying to someone yesterday how I half expected to see Melissa McCarthy kick a ghost in the balls and the ghost’s eyes would cross...

And then this happens:

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I absolutely refuse to believe the vitriol towards the film is a result of sexism. Its incredibly naive to pin media spinned garbage for the relentless negativity of the product. The real reason is the actual product advertised looks absolutely atrocious. Its an SNL skit in the guise of a GB film. Another reason is the bandwagon effect. When something gains a sizable consensus, people just parrot the general sentiments and it grows. I've also grown tired of the constant need to preface "I have no issue with an all female cast". If people want to see real equality, then just not point out the obvious that they are women. That need to constantly patronize is more offensive, as if females can't fully handle blunt criticism . Are there sexist folks? Yes, but I seriously doubt they make up a large majority of negativity, especially when the highest grossing film of the decade is TFA, a film starring a female lead. In fact, this film should have followed that film's lead by not being a pointless reboot and just revisit the same world and characters, while introducing new ones.
 
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I absolutely refuse to believe the vitriol towards the film is a result of sexism. Its incredibly naive to pin media spinned garbage for the relentless negativity of the product. The real reason is the actual product advertised looks absolutely atrocious. Its an SNL skit in the guise of a GB film. Another reason is the bandwagon effect. When something gains a sizable consensus, people just parrot the general sentiments and it grows. I've also grown tired of the constant need to preface "I have no issue with an all female cast". If people want to see real equality, then just not point out the obvious that they are women. That need to constantly patronize is more offensive, as if females can't fully handle blunt criticism . Are there sexist folks? Yes, but I seriously doubt they make up a large majority of negativity, especially when the highest grossing film of the decade is TFA, a film starring a female lead. In fact, this film should have followed that film's lead by not being a pointless reboot and just revisit the same world and characters, while introducing new ones.

Thank. You.
 
I was LITERALLY saying to someone yesterday how I half expected to see Melissa McCarthy kick a ghost in the balls and the ghost’s eyes would cross...

And then this happens:

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That was a God awful tv spot.
 
Very rarely do I ever flat out refuse to see a film, no matter how terrible it may look.

I'm making an exception for this film.
 
I'm not defending the new TV spot. Just like to point out that the first Ghostbusters movie had that suggestive scene with Stanz.
 
Oh God. The Stay Puft Marshmallow Man is a horrible CGI drawing taken from a videogame or something. OH GOD. MY EYES.
 
I haven't decided yet. I may give it a look.
 
Here's a thought: What if the team was two guys and two girls?

Or just use the Extreme Ghostbusters line-up. That way, no one would go to war over the diversity of the characters and it'd be a better way of passing the touch even if Ray or Venkman have to take up the mentor role.

Either way, both options would be a sight better than what we ended up with
 
I can honestly handle an all girl cast, if it is handled respectfully, without any agenda shoved down our throats.

I honestly feel like the film would have benefited if it lost the ghostbuster name tag, the ecto car and all the trademarks and was its own thing that had parallels to GB's.

Anyways, i will watch it, give it a chance.
 
If the movie does not do well, it will not be because of sexism against women. Half the population is female, and if they don't go see the movie, it will be because the marketing (and the film itself) sucked, not because they hate their own gender. Sure, there are lots of sexist males in the world, but their lost ticket sales alone are not sufficient to hurt a film's sales.

No doubt Sony is leaning on the "sexism" charge so heavily because they are hoping to inspire women to see the film out of solidarity. They are certainly playing to the female demographic, which is not a terrible idea... they are just doing it all wrong.
 
I'm not defending the new TV spot. Just like to point out that the first Ghostbusters movie had that suggestive scene with Stanz.

Oh totally, but this isn't suggestive. It's stupid. It's lowest-common-denominator "humor."

"You know what's funny??!? Guys getting hit in the nutz!!!! Hahah yeah it's SO FUNNY!!!!!!212111!!111!" - Children
 
Stay Puft looks like crap! :down

Hell, the entire movie looks like crap so not surprising
 
Here's a thought: What if the team was two guys and two girls?

The only difference an all male team or a mixed team would have from an all female team is that only the all female team gets called a PC Agenda. Let's not dismiss that there very much is a sexist hate toward this film. There has been too much evidence of this type of behavior in various geekdoms to ignore.

I am excited for this movie. I think it looks great. It is okay if the trailers have turned you off.
 
When this was announced, do I think people wrote it off out of sexism? Yes I do. Many probably did. However, now we have footage of the film itself, and it is not good. Talk about whatever bad press it was getting before, but a bad looking movie is a bad looking movie. If this had great trailers, people would have come around. They didn't produce one. Therefore, backlash.
 
When this was announced, do I think people wrote it off out of sexism? Yes I do. Many probably did. However, now we have footage of the film itself, and it is not good. Talk about whatever bad press it was getting before, but a bad looking movie is a bad looking movie. If this had great trailers, people would have come around. They didn't produce one. Therefore, backlash.


Agreed the initial backlash was of a majority of moronic cavemen screaming because girls are icky. No one can deny that

But in they're attack the have also created a crutch for the movie any and all bad press will be put down to this mindset and we've already seen this


I said I wasn't a fan because of the creative team nothing more but apparently I'm a sad little troll who never find love and die in a fire ( actual tweet I got) because I said I was willing to wait and see

Well I've waited and I have seen and from what I've seen I see a basic dumbed down cash grab on nostalgia factor
 
Why is Stay Puft Marshmallow Man even there? I mean i know WHY he is there, its a nostalgia trick, but why is he there as a ghost? that could be like a 5 second cameo for all we know but somehow this fan service is not helping them and i can't say i was excited seeing that.
 
The humour just isn't ghostbusters at all, even the ghostbusters video game felt more like ghostbusters, this is just a bunch of ladies being goofy, loud or crazy to show they are funny.
 
Isn't that Stay Puft Marshmallow Man just a possessed Parade balloon?
 
Here's a thought: What if the team was two guys and two girls?

Then, it wouldn't be so easily accused of being a gimmick, but it would still be just as bad (especially if Feig was still directing and Jones or McKinnon were either of the women)

Simple rule Hollywood should follow: if you can't positively compare to- or improve upon- the original, then you should not do a remake. that simple.
 
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