Homecoming The Next Spider-Man - - - - - - - - Part 17

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Marvel casting a teenage actor as a teenage Spider-Man is something we have NEVER seen before. they're trying to keep things new and fresh.

Dylan O'Brien would be the same ole, same ole of casting 20 somethings as a 15/16 year-old kid.
 
Ugh, that would be amazing!

Seriously, I don't need sequels. Just give me a good movie!



Thanks for proving my earlier point, Harry! Totes appreciate it! :o

How did I prove your point?
 
Marvel casting a teenage actor as a teenage Spider-Man is something we have NEVER seen before. they're trying to keep things new and fresh.

Dylan O'Brien would be the same ole, same ole of casting 20 somethings as a 15/16 year-old kid.
Not really, he was younger than Garfield and Maguire. It's still a step in the right direction if you ask me. If Dylan doesn't get the role I'd believe it to be other reasons than his age, or appearance. Big scheduling conflicts is my bet.
 
Not really, he was younger than Garfield and Maguire. It's still a step in the right direction if you ask me. If Dylan doesn't get the role I'd believe it to be other reasons than his age, or appearance. Big scheduling conflicts is my bet.
Difference is, Garfield and Maguire weren't playing 15 year-old kids. they were playing late teens (17-18) and Dylan is already too old for the role, that's why he isn't getting it.

Remember, we're going to get more than one movie in High-School.
 
Im so tired of people repeating "Marvel is trying to keep things fresh, a teen superhero is something new different from the rest"

We already had Sony trying to do things differently than Raimi and they still failed. Different =/= Better
 
I was thinking, if the studio's weren't motivated to make numerous sequels, would we even be looking at Asa or Tom right now? I mean, their main appeal seems to be their youth.

If Marvel/Song instead decided to just make the best Spider-Man movie they can right now, would they even be considered? I'm not saying that they're bad actors, but they aren't that good. They're respected child actors, that's kind of it.

Putting aside the debate on Asa and Tom's talents for now, I do think that there's more to it than Marvel and Sony just wanting to make numerous sequels.

At the end of the day, Marvel ultimately wants to focus in on Peter's early days as Spidey in high school. That sets up a certain range of actors that they can realistically cast for the take on Spidey that they want to go with. It'd be the same thing if we were looking at a Peter who was in college or in his early-to-mid-thirties.

Would they be looking at Asa or Tom if they wanted an older Spidey? Probably not, because they're both incredibly young. But that alone doesn't dictate that Marvel isn't out to put out the best Spider-Man movie that they can make. They've been itching to make a Spidey film for ages now and I have a feeling that they're going to put in a lot of love and effort into the new series.

As a result of that mindset, including the detail that they are deliberately aiming for a much younger Peter than we're used to seeing onscreen, I can totally see why they would cast either Asa or Tom. Both are very talented actors and happen to fit the age demographic they're looking for in their leading actor.
 
I've said it before. I'll say it again. I don't want DOB as Spider-Man.
My bad. it seemed like you were complaining about Marvel's plan because of Dylan O'Brien (don't mean to sound rude).
Putting aside the debate on Asa and Tom's talents for now, I do think that there's more to it than Marvel and Sony just wanting to make numerous sequels.

At the end of the day, Marvel ultimately wants to focus in on Peter's early days as Spidey in high school. That sets up a certain range of actors that they can realistically cast for the take on Spidey that they want to go with. It'd be the same thing if we were looking at a Peter who was in college or in his early-to-mid-thirties.

Would they be looking at Asa or Tom if they wanted an older Spidey? Probably not, because they're both incredibly young. But that alone doesn't dictate that Marvel isn't out to put out the best Spider-Man movie that they can make. They've been itching to make a Spidey film for ages now and I have a feeling that they're going to put in a lot of love and effort into the new series.

As a result of that mindset, including the detail that they are deliberately aiming for a much younger Peter than we're used to seeing onscreen, I can totally see why they would cast either Asa or Tom. Both are very talented actors and happen to fit the age demographic they're looking for in their leading actor.

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My bad. it seemed like you were complaining about Marvel's plan because of Dylan O'Brien (don't mean to sound rude).


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Ha! No problem!

And I agree! C Prometheus does make some really good points.
 
Why not both? Do sequels entail a lack of quality? Let's get 3 solid Spider-Man movies in the MCU in a row, that would be a dream come true.
 
They can do Spideyverse and then EVERYONE will get the chance to play him!
 
If not Dylan, I'm leaning towards Asa over Tom. For some reason it intruigues me to see how he could pull of the character,
 
the thing to remember is.....

whoever is cast needs to pull off both nerdy Parker as well as a more heroic looking Spider-Man.

Asa may be able to pull off nerdy/dorky/quiet/socially awkward Peter.

but, even if he bulked up, would he look convincing as Spider-Man?

I'm not so sure about that.........
 
My fear is with them going so young it my turn off an older audience.
 
If not Dylan, I'm leaning towards Asa over Tom. For some reason it intruigues me to see how he could pull of the character,

I'm very curious as to how Asa might go about the role, assuming he will indeed be cast. It'd definitely be considerably different from how Tom Holland or pretty much every other actor I've seen recommended would go about the role.

Asa would definitely knock out the quieter, more intense moments that we're likely to get via Peter dealing with some amount of teenage angst (I doubt they'd go too far with that). He might channel out some of his performance from X+Y by portraying Peter as being a bit more quiet and insecure and thus use Spider-Man as a means for him to come out of his anti-social shell.

I also think he'd be an absolute perfect fit for Peter and Spidey if they do end up adapting the Symbiote Arc over the course of the sequel solo films, as I suspect they will. If nothing else, I think most people would agree that Asa can definitely nail the less common, darker side to Peter.

As for how Asa might handle Peter/Spidey's more comedic elements, I think he might go for a more sarcastic or snarky approach. He's got a knack for that dry British comedy in real life, as seen in his interview a few years back on Conan. Going back to my previous post in comparing the casting of Michael Keaton as Batman to Asa as Spidey, just because we haven't seen Asa do very much humor before, doesn't necessarily mean he can't do it.
 
I'm very curious as to how Asa might go about the role, assuming he will indeed be cast. It'd definitely be considerably different from how Tom Holland or pretty much every other actor I've seen recommended would go about the role.

Asa would definitely knock out the quieter, more intense moments that we're likely to get via Peter dealing with some amount of teenage angst (I doubt they'd go too far with that). He might channel out some of his performance from X+Y by portraying Peter as being a bit more quiet and insecure and thus use Spider-Man as a means for him to come out of his anti-social shell.

I also think he'd be an absolute perfect fit for Peter and Spidey if they do end up adapting the Symbiote Arc over the course of the sequel solo films, as I suspect they will. If nothing else, I think most people would agree that Asa can definitely nail the less common, darker side to Peter.

As for how Asa might handle Peter/Spidey's more comedic elements, I think he might go for a more sarcastic or snarky approach. He's got a knack for that dry British comedy in real life, as seen in his interview a few years back on Conan. Going back to my previous post in comparing the casting of Michael Keaton as Batman to Asa as Spidey, just because we haven't seen Asa do very much humor before, doesn't necessarily mean he can't do it.
How do you think Tom would pull off the role?
 
I know you didn't ask me, but I have to say: Asa = Keaton and Tom = Kilmer

That actually makes so much sense LOL, a good way to put it in some perspective...
 
DOB (or any other actor) doesn't have to look like a real-world 15-16 yo imo. I don't even know why they'd be going for that.. Regardless of wanting HS films, which I'm fine with. I would say that 80-90% of movies set in HS and based on HS kids features actors who don't look anything near real-world HS kids

Surround them with people who look the same, whatever that age may be (as long as it's clearly under looking like they're 30 or something), and it's fine

Don't even bother mate. These people don't get it because they have looked into their crystal balls and know that Marvel want to be totally 'authentic'.
 
Marvel casting a teenage actor as a teenage Spider-Man is something we have NEVER seen before. they're trying to keep things new and fresh.

Dylan O'Brien would be the same ole, same ole of casting 20 somethings as a 15/16 year-old kid.
this is true, however, i'd rather they just keep peter in college instead of high school.
 
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But that's a completely different culture, as are the ones that are shown in GotG. In the case of the previous Spider-Man films, we'd be dealing with contrasting takes on New York City. It could potentially work with the ASM films, maybe, but I struggle to see the reality established in the Raimi films fitting in with the existing takes on New York City in the MCU.

New York has been portrayed differently in all the MCU films from the more street level Daredevil, to The Avengers 1. New York wasn't portrayed so radically different in the Raimi films as in Avengers. Its not like the difference between the Gotham of Batman 1966 and The Dark Knight. Both versions of New York in the Raimiverse and The MCU are pretty compatible with each other save that they were made a decade a part. I don't think that even Simmon's Jameson would seem all that out of place in an MCU film.

That's why I wouldn't agree with you that New York in Raimi's and Webb's films would somehow be incompatible with the New York of the MCU. I really don't think there really isn't as strong a demarcation from the Sony Spiderman films and the MCU films in terms of tones, characterization, and setting as you think there is.
 
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