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The Official Atom Thread!!

I can take Byrne's penciling if he's got a good inker. The inker on Action Comics had way too much linework for Byrne, in my opinion. Anyway, at least he's not writing it. :)

On the other hand, the premise is lame enough that I'm worried Simone might be losing her edge. :(
 
TheCorpulent1 said:
I can take Byrne's penciling if he's got a good inker. The inker on Action Comics had way too much linework for Byrne, in my opinion. Anyway, at least he's not writing it. :)

On the other hand, the premise is lame enough that I'm worried Simone might be losing her edge. :(


Especially after BOP OYL:(
 
Okay, so let me get this straight, we want more cultural diversity in comics, but now that three have shown up, with rather good reasons for showing up, it's all PC garbage and "betraying" origional characters?

This isn't Squirrel Girl folks, give it a chance.
 
BlackOpsTengu said:
Okay, so let me get this straight, we want more cultural diversity in comics, but now that three have shown up, with rather good reasons for showing up, it's all PC garbage and "betraying" origional characters?

This isn't Squirrel Girl folks, give it a chance.


We dont mind Blue Beetle or Firestorm because the orginals are dead. Ray Palmer isnt. You understand now?
 
They should name him "Asian Ray Palmer". Because that's what he is. He's just Ray but Asian. Why did they have to do this when Ray is such a good character?
 
BlackOpsTengu said:
Okay, so let me get this straight, we want more cultural diversity in comics, but now that three have shown up, with rather good reasons for showing up, it's all PC garbage and "betraying" origional characters?
ToddIsDead covered my objection to it, and it has nothing to do with betraying the original character.
ToddIsDead said:
They should name him "Asian Ray Palmer". Because that's what he is. He's just Ray but Asian.
Cultural diversity requires more than just changing an existing character's name and ethnicity. If they wanted an Asian Atom, they should've created an Asian character and made him the Atom, not taken an Asian guy who's already similar to Ray and given him Ray's job and powers.
 
Cultural diversity requires more than just changing an existing character's name and ethnicity. If they wanted an Asian Atom, they should've created an Asian character and made him the Atom, not taken an Asian guy who's already similar to Ray and given him Ray's job and powers.


That I can agree with. I'll still give the book a shot just to see where its going.
 
I still don't really get it whats wrong with the name Katana?
 
Nothing's wrong with the name Katana. It's just that when every Asian character is named something like Katana or Bushido or other things that reference the stereotype that all Asians know martial arts, it's boring.
 
TheCorpulent1 said:
Nothing's wrong with the name Katana. It's just that when every Asian character is named something like Katana or Bushido or other things that reference the stereotype that all Asians know martial arts, it's boring.


Yet it fits since she uses one.:up:
 
TheCorpulent1 said:
Nothing's wrong with the name Katana. It's just that when every Asian character is named something like Katana or Bushido or other things that reference the stereotype that all Asians know martial arts, it's boring.

I guess its boring but I still wouldn't mind being named Katana
 
I wouldn't either. I would mind if I were Asian and almost every single other Asian hero were named something similarly martial arts-themed, like "Karate Kid" or "Bushido," though.
 
Darthphere said:
We dont mind Blue Beetle or Firestorm because the orginals are dead. Ray Palmer isnt. You understand now?

finally, someone who understands me..wanna get married ;)









:down i was joking you homo...no i will not let you hold yellow roses, red ones are more trad...:(
 
TheCorpulent1 said:
I wouldn't either. I would mind if I were Asian and almost every single other Asian hero were named something similarly martial arts-themed, like "Karate Kid" or "Bushido," though.
That is exactly what I mean.

I don't mind when Asian characters have to draw upon their Asia-ness in order to have any personality at all, but sometimes it feels like creators can't write any Asian characters without having them draw upon ancient secret martial arts dragon fu jade power amulet chi tomfckery. Don't get me wrong; off the top of my head, I can name Nico from the Runaways, Dr. Light, Batgirl, and Surge from New X-Men who don't rely on that sort of gimmick, so it's not like those characters don't exist at all. But in general, it feels like creator thought processes go like this:

Jubilee - Gee, Chinese people invented fireworks, so let's give her fireworks powers!

Sunfire - Japan is the land of the rising sun? This practically writes itself!

Hisako from Astonishing X-Men - ...ah, well, she was doing just fine in this department until Joss made it so that her power stems from the ancient protection of her ancestors. Not that it doesn't make her more interesting, mind you, but come on.

At the least, if the Atom is Asian, there'll be another character without that sort of gimmick. And I'm pretty sure he's gonna end up knowing kung fu at some point anyway.
 
Ah, well. The way I look at it, she takes after Batman's gimmick, and Batman's gimmick includes being a martial artist, so that's that, nothing blatantly Asian about it. Plus, I was being generous:O.
 
She hasn't been an assassin since she was a child.

Batgirl's off wandering somewhere, last I saw. Her series just ended with her saying that she was no longer beholden to Cain's brainwashing, Batman's example, or Shiva's manipulations. She was finally her own woman, visually punctuated by the fact that she was wearing regular clothes, not her Batgirl costume. That's how her series ends.
 
note the reasion i said 1st..and yes at heart she will always be an assassin, she uses her assassin skills even when she was batgirl, except she didnt kill any more
 
An assassin's only function is to kill. So technically the only "assassin skill" is murder, which Batgirl hasn't engaged in for over a decade. :confused:
 
TheCorpulent1 said:
An assassin's only function is to kill. So technically the only "assassin skill" is murder, which Batgirl hasn't engaged in for over a decade. :confused:

cough shiva cough
 

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