The Official Batman Returns Thread

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

ya those two are the only major cast members who did new interviews for the extras for the anthology. We all new Nicholson would do it considering how much money he's made from the first four films.

 

[Marck87]

Reason for Keaton not doing interviews may have been because of that little dispute that WB started right before Batman Forever were being made?

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Ya I've heard that rumor before, plus many others but no real facts on the matter. Having Keaton do some new commentary or interviews would have made it awesome, much better than Burtons scatter brained responses.

It's ok though those new Keaton interviews just released a week or so ago were very interesting and satisfying.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

I don't recall hearing anything about a dispute. They were desperate for him to return, offering a HUGE salary... and he kindly told them the direction and script was ****.

Forever went on to be pretty big... so i'm not sure there were any hard feelings.

 

[ALP]

Ya I've heard that rumor before, plus many others but no real facts on the matter. Having Keaton do some new commentary or interviews would have made it awesome, much better than Burtons scatter brained responses.

It's ok though those new Keaton interviews just released a week or so ago were very interesting and satisfying.

Where!?!?! Gimmeeeee!!!

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

www.herocomplex.latimes.com there are two interview pieces with Keaton one primarily about 89 and there's another about BR.

I'm sorry since I post on my phone it's difficult to find the exact link, if you search the site I'm sure you can locate it.

 

[ALP]

Thanks!!! That's so brilliant to hear his thoughts looking back. I haven't ever heard him speak about Batman post-films. Cool

Damn I love him. I'm a big fan of Nolan's Batman movies and they're great but I'll always love what Keaton and Burton gave us too.

 

[Ponyboy]

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011...s-of-batman-and-shining-love-for-beetlejuice/

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Hmm... on Letterman back in 1992, he said Returns was a FAR better picture than the first one.

Wonder why?

Meh I love both equally.

 

[Ponyboy]

Yeah! He said it's "Much much better than the first one." But if you note how he says it... looking down at the floor, and not being too convincing...

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Ha yeah!

I think thematically its much better... and Burton seems more creative and happy behind the camera.

But Keaton really had nothing to do!

 

[ALP]

Hmm... on Letterman back in 1992, he said Returns was a FAR better picture than the first one.

Wonder why?

Meh I love both equally.

LOL, are you serious? In the interview posted above, Keaton says the first time he saw BR he thought it wasn't as focused as B'89 was.

Keaton was terrific in B'89, I really think he's just as good/memorable if not better than Jack in the first film. With the second film, it's true he didn't have as much to do but I thought he worked well with what was given to him. Great chemistry with Pfeiffer and I like the other Wayne scenes when he's talking to Alfred about the Penguin. And as Batman... I think it was for Returns when Keaton said he told Burton and Dan Waters that he should talk less. So you can thank him for such little Batman monologue

Overall Batman Returns remains my favorite. It was a grandiose, operatic, piece of dark fantasy. Clearly I understand why others might not like it but I thought it was great. Burton's characters are always strange, ridiculous, pathetic, beautiful, and gothic... it's just not for everyone. I'd say his rendition of Catwoman as fragile, ready-to-snap crazy, and sympathetic remains my favorite.

 

[Mister Meddle]

Ha, of course he was going to put Returns over. He had to promote the film.

Batman 1989 was better as a Batman movie but as a film Batman Returns was superior. I really don't understand why it's criticized for being "too dark" as if it's a bad thing. You don't hear anyone criticizing movies for being "too light". Or it could be that I grew up thinking the tone was normal.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

thanks for posting the link Pon...ew any diehard batman fan needs to read this.

 

[Ponyboy]

No problem! It's a great article. Great to hear from Keaton and though I've always respected him... I respect him even more now. He seems to be about as grounded and level headed as they come.

 

[Marck87]

I don't recall hearing anything about a dispute. They were desperate for him to return, offering a HUGE salary... and he kindly told them the direction and script was ****.

Forever went on to be pretty big... so i'm not sure there were any hard feelings.

Yeeah, I meant that the dispute was from WB's side, claiming that Keaton wanted more money, when he actually just said politely no due to the direction the series were being taken.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I always had a real "like it/don't care for it" relationship with the movie up until I got the Blu-Ray. Now sure, the transfer's great, but I think then I finally just came to terms with what it is and now I really like it, more so than the first.

Favorite scene:

 

[redfirebird2008]

I always had a real "like it/don't care for it" relationship with the movie up until I got the Blu-Ray. Now sure, the transfer's great, but I think then I finally just came to terms with what it is and now I really like it, more so than the first.

Favorite scene:

Good choice! Here is my favorite:

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Gives me chills every time. I love Burton's interpretation of Bruce as a lonely outsider just waiting to be called into action.

 

[Smalley]

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[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Love the torn up cat-suit with the hair hanging out.

I don't care if its realistic or not... the suit rocks in general.

 

[Smalley]

Love the torn up cat-suit with the hair hanging out.

I don't care if its realistic or not... the suit rocks in general.

What do you mean not realistic?

 

[El Payaso]

A scene that caught me forever is the whole sequence when Selina is thrown through the window and becomes Catwoman. It was really unsettling and masterfully executed.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

There was some discussion in The Dark Knight Rises boards, along the lines of ''Catwoman would never wear high heels... it makes NO sense'', showing a pic of the Burton-Catwoman on all fours drinking milk...

But hey. I KNOW this costume is and always will be 10 times sexier than whatever Nolan dreams up. (Must repress fanboy tendancies )

 

[The Joker]

A scene that caught me forever is the whole sequence when Selina is thrown through the window and becomes Catwoman. It was really unsettling and masterfully executed.

I heard it took several takes to do the scene with the cats all over her because they kept irritating Michelle.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

I wonder of Halle knew here how much she was really ****ing up her Catwoman performance. t: