The Official Boxing Thread!!! - Part 2

Who is the best Boxer of all time?

  • Mike Tyson

  • Muhammad Ali

  • Sugar Ray Robinson

  • Floyd Mayweather

  • Manny Pacquiao

  • Jack Dempsey

  • Joe Louis

  • Larry Holmes

  • Shane Mosley

  • Lennox Lewis

  • Joe Frazier

  • George Foreman

  • Sonny Liston

  • Rocky Marciano

  • Evander Holyfield

  • Nikolai Valuev

  • Oscar De La Hoya

  • Roy Jones Jr

  • Sugar Ray Leonard

  • Other

  • Mike Tyson

  • Muhammad Ali

  • Sugar Ray Robinson

  • Floyd Mayweather

  • Manny Pacquiao

  • Jack Dempsey

  • Joe Louis

  • Larry Holmes

  • Shane Mosley

  • Lennox Lewis

  • Joe Frazier

  • George Foreman

  • Sonny Liston

  • Rocky Marciano

  • Evander Holyfield

  • Nikolai Valuev

  • Oscar De La Hoya

  • Roy Jones Jr

  • Sugar Ray Leonard

  • Other

  • Mike Tyson

  • Muhammad Ali

  • Sugar Ray Robinson

  • Floyd Mayweather

  • Manny Pacquiao

  • Jack Dempsey

  • Joe Louis

  • Larry Holmes

  • Shane Mosley

  • Lennox Lewis

  • Joe Frazier

  • George Foreman

  • Sonny Liston

  • Rocky Marciano

  • Evander Holyfield

  • Nikolai Valuev

  • Oscar De La Hoya

  • Roy Jones Jr

  • Sugar Ray Leonard

  • Other

  • Mike Tyson

  • Muhammad Ali

  • Sugar Ray Robinson

  • Floyd Mayweather

  • Manny Pacquiao

  • Jack Dempsey

  • Joe Louis

  • Larry Holmes

  • Shane Mosley

  • Lennox Lewis

  • Joe Frazier

  • George Foreman

  • Sonny Liston

  • Rocky Marciano

  • Evander Holyfield

  • Nikolai Valuev

  • Oscar De La Hoya

  • Roy Jones Jr

  • Sugar Ray Leonard

  • Other


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Yeah, I knew Bernard would beat him and Jones Jr would annihilate him. But there were his fans that would swear up and down that Trinidad was the next coming, that could walk on water, that coukd turn water into wine. Lol.
 
Looking forward to the Broner and Matthysee sparring matches tonight. Anyway else thinks that Al Haymon and Dan Shaffer are purposely putting these bad matches together to bring down the value of Golden Boy Productions?
 
so Broner is acting like Mini Floyd again you'd think he'd been humbled enough by Maidana but no act the tough guy/wannabe gangster still.
 
Broner is gonna end up punch drunk. The only thing he does more then talk is get hit.
 
so Broner is acting like Mini Floyd again you'd think he'd been humbled enough by Maidana but no act the tough guy/wannabe gangster still.

The thing about Floyd is I think it's an act to get you to hate him. Even after the fight, he gives his opponent credit. Whereas Broner is just a jerk 24/7. I really don't think it's an act with him. He's never going to be this PPV star because he doesn't have that hunger or dedication to the craft. Plus early in Floyd's career, he sought after big names to build himself up. Whereas Broner is really avoiding them right now.
 
Looking forward to the Broner and Matthysee sparring matches tonight. Anyway else thinks that Al Haymon and Dan Shaffer are purposely putting these bad matches together to bring down the value of Golden Boy Productions?

Nah, Haymon just doesn't want his guys losing to other people that aren't managed by him. Why do you think that punk Quillen vacated his belt instead of fighting his mandatory?

Haymon can't afford to not do business with GBP. Arum and Kathey Duva don't want to do business with him, so there go the other top promoters. Mayweather Promotions is at an infacy stage and so far their top guys have been KOd.

I just want to see Broner vs Matthysse.
 
Nah, Haymon just doesn't want his guys losing to other people that aren't managed by him. Why do you think that punk Quillen vacated his belt instead of fighting his mandatory?

Haymon can't afford to not do business with GBP. Arum and Kathey Duva don't want to do business with him, so there go the other top promoters. Mayweather Promotions is at an infacy stage and so far their top guys have been KOd.

I just want to see Broner vs Matthysse.

Duva is promoting Kovalev and he's fighting Hopkins in 2 months. :huh: The only person not doing business with him is Arum and he likes to keep things in house.
 
Haymon doesn't manage Hopkins.


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Broner still sucks, still fights with concrete on his feet and abysmal defense. Matthyse would light him up.
 
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Broner really thinks he looked good tonight? Fought a mediocre fighter, and was having tons of problems.
 
Haymon doesn't manage Hopkins.


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Broner still sucks, still fights with concrete on his feet and abysmal defense. Matthyse would light him up.
Edit. You are right. My bad.
Broner really thinks he looked good tonight? Fought a mediocre fighter, and was having tons of problems.

Broner shows potential, he just doesn't throw enough punches and his defense sucks. He gets hit at will, he has no stamina, and lack of punches will be his downfall. If he ever gets in the ring with Lucas Matthysee................it ain't going to be pretty for Adrian.
 
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Broner shows potential, he just doesn't throw enough punches and his defense sucks. He gets hit at will, he has no stamina, and lack of punches will be his downfall. If he ever gets in the ring with Lucas Matthysee................it ain't going to be pretty for Adrian.
Broner has what kind of potential? He has no defense, and doesn't have the gas tank to throw consistently. As I said, he is going to end up punch drunk.

I do hope he fights my man crush Lucas. That would be hilarious imo.
 
C'mon. I can't stand Broner but to say he doesn't show flashes at time is extreme. He does. He showed flashes last night but he still got hit at will. He has a ton of holes in his game and he needs to start to listen to his corner.
 
Broner still acting a clown in post fight interviews I see. yes he shows flashes of talent but he was fighting a nobody. Last time he fought someone who could hit back he was humbled. Lucas Matthysse would beat his ass down.

Speaking of his fight dodgy referee stoppage there. Ortiz could've carried on definitely.
 
C'mon. I can't stand Broner but to say he doesn't show flashes at time is extreme. He does. He showed flashes last night but he still got hit at will. He has a ton of holes in his game and he needs to start to listen to his corner.
There is a reason Broner has had tough fights with guys that any real contender should be destroying. He is an above average fighter, but he is gonna get his butt kicked by any real contender. He is missing the basics. He is too inactive for a guy who can't move. You see him against the ropes again last night? Horrible. He was just lucky his opponent was mediocre last night.
 
There is a reason Broner has had tough fights with guys that any real contender should be destroying. He is an above average fighter, but he is gonna get his butt kicked by any real contender. He is missing the basics. He is too inactive for a guy who can't move. You see him against the ropes again last night? Horrible. He was just lucky his opponent was mediocre last night.

That's what I was saying. :huh: He shows flashes but he has really big holes in his fight game. And he's talking about facing Mattyhsee..........he thought Maidana made him look bad, I think Lucas would straight annihilate him.
 
That's what I was saying. :huh: He shows flashes but he has really big holes in his fight game. And he's talking about facing Mattyhsee..........he thought Maidana made him look bad, I think Lucas would straight annihilate him.
I took your post as saying he has shown flashes that show potential for the future. My point is that whatever potential he has shown, is negated by the holes in his game. The reason why a lot of guys don't listen to their corners, is because they can't do what the corner is asking from them.

Broner beats overmatched guys, he has a size advantage over. More to the point, he doesn't do it all that impressively anymore. The guy has bad footwork, can't move in the pocket, is bad off the ropes and has a mediocre gas tank.
 
Humbled Broner walking back after his destruction at the hands of Marcos Maidana.
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I took your post as saying he has shown flashes that show potential for the future. My point is that whatever potential he has shown, is negated by the holes in his game. The reason why a lot of guys don't listen to their corners, is because they can't do what the corner is asking from them.

Broner beats overmatched guys, he has a size advantage over. More to the point, he doesn't do it all that impressively anymore. The guy has bad footwork, can't move in the pocket, is bad off the ropes and has a mediocre gas tank.

I agree on all points. I think he gets fatigued really bad now because he has to do so much to cut weight after he blows up from not taking his training seriously or training year round. Of the top Welterweights or Light Welterweights, I can't see him beating any of them any time soon. I honestly think if he fought Paulie again, he may lose that fight because it's questionable if he won the original fight.
 
Getting out worked by Paulie the way he did, made me realize he really wasn't gonna be a contender.

On the weight issue. While I agree with your point, I also think he carries way too much upper body weight. He reminds me a bit of Berto in that regard.
 
Now there was a hype job. Berto got his ass handed to him by Ortiz and Robert Guerrero.

He also tested positive for a banned substance. not sure what though.
 
TMT just signed Ray Rice. Mayweather was very impressed with that security video.
 
Now there was a hype job. Berto got his ass handed to him by Ortiz and Robert Guerrero.

He also tested positive for a banned substance. not sure what though.
Did you see Berto's fight this weekend? Fought a complete tomato can, and still looked horrible.
 
TMT just signed Ray Rice. Mayweather was very impressed with that security video.
You just can't keep Mayweather out of your mouth can you? If it's thundering outside, you'd say Mayweather is beating angels in Heaven again. :whatever: Your obsessiveness with him goes beyond reason.
Did you see Berto's fight this weekend? Fought a complete tomato can, and still looked horrible.

I never got the hype with him. He's one of the worse fighters I have ever seen. I remember him doing the shoulder roll against Soto-Karass and man he looked like an idiot. If there was ever a hype job personified, it would be him.
 
You just can't keep Mayweather out of your mouth can you? If it's thundering outside, you'd say Mayweather is beating angels in Heaven again. :whatever: Your obsessiveness with him goes beyond reason.

Lol at you defending your hero like that.

If they had secuity video of Fraud assaulting those women like Rice, I'm sure y'all would find an excuse on why he did that.
 
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