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matrix_ghost said:Opinions , we'll have to agree to disagree here
But yeah , i think the bullet time shot of Jean Grey blasting everything away with the water rising owns pretty much all of X2 bigger VFX sequences.
And there's is of course DBZ Iceman and Pryo , Jean Grey atomising Prof X ..etc etc.
Personal opinion
Fair enough we will leave that one.
matrix_ghost said:I know that X2 is loved by many. But hey , i don't consider it to be THAT great. I doubt most of the people who voted in that poll are comic purists HEck alot of my friends like/love X1-X2 and they don't even read comics. They judge the movies as standalone pieces of entertainment.
Well then how come X2 won the poll on here as the best movie of the trilogy then?
matrix_ghost said:Rattner.
For starters , Rattner has to live up Brian vision (which given the critical response that X1 and especially X2 got is really hard) , introducing many characters ( he didn't have much of a say in this , because Brian still focused on a very small group of mutants; Brett just got he script and was told to work with all the characters ), securing that X3 made more money then X2 and a fixed release date. They had a total of 12 months to work on this movie ( from starting the shoot all the way till release date , can you imagine a massive blockbuster movie like X-men having a post. prod slate less then a year with that many complex VFX).
Not only that , but Rattner also had to turn in a movie that was considerably shorter in lenght for Fox , cause as we all know this logic :
shorter running time equals more showings equals more money.
Fox wanted to make as much as possible back from their 210 million investment. And also i think that FOX would've never given Brian Singer a 200 million dollar budget had he been on board. It was their intention all along to to release this movie in 2006 no matter what ( i have the empire issue at home where they're talking releasing this flick in 2006). When Brian left to do SR along with his crew members who were all there for start for the X-Men franchise , Fox was in a real problem . They had to now have a script , start essentially from scratch with set designs , casting other actors , and negotiating new deals with the actors
I think the main reason why the budget was so high was because of the VFX slate ( and to a less extent the salaries of the actors).
You need to deliver BIg , complex scenes with in a very short period. The only way you can do that is by increasing the budget big time.
So yeah , summarising. Brett had the harder time.
Please, you have GOT to be joking on this, if you are not, you are letting your anger towards BS for SR cloud your judgement. Singer had to introduce a whole new world full of unfamiliar, in the publics eye, characters. Singer had the much tougher job. He also was given the same timescale as Ratner was given for X3 to develop X1. Also Singer had to cast the most important roles of Xavier, Magneto, Jean, Storm, Cyclops, and possibly the hardest of them all, he had to cast Wolverine. Ratner had the main cast already in place before he even came on board, all he had to do once he came on board was cast small parts like Quill, and Arclight, not exactly difficult is it? Also, Matthew Vaughn did most of the work for Ratner before he even came aboard. And Ratner had a budget for one movie that was $25 million more than BOTH of the first movies.