The Official Budget & Box Office Thread

[Motown Marvel]

the original poster was saying the sequel isnt likely to make money since there was so much hate towards superman returns. when in fact, the film was very well recieved by the general audience (see numbers below), and its just a very vocal minority of haters that seem to have congregated here to flame the movie.

imdb average user rating gave superman returns 7/10.
box office mojo average user rating gave it a 'B'.
rotten tomatoes critics: 76% fresh.
rotten tomatoes average user rating: 79%

 

[HR-PUFF&STUFF]

Yes, we’re saying it hasn’t made a single red cent. Theaters take roughly half of the ticket sales first off, and the films budget doesn’t account for the marketing costs to try and get people interested in the movies, among other things.
In today’s market, most films need to make roughly 3 times their budget in order to even start seeing a profit. At the absolute most, if DVD sales go through the roof, this film has a chance at breaking even. Any “profit” they get will be of no real significance.

And yes, the next film does have a chance to make money, IF: they correct the rather embarrassing marketing mistakes they made with the first one, making a more entertaining and action oriented film, and the WB needs to recognize when it’s out of its league. Honestly, whoever thought the Superman name would be able to stand up to the collective stardom of Depp, Bloom, and Knightly needs to be committed.

the theaters make little money off the ticket sales. its made off the consessions. thats why they want shorter movies so that they can sell more pop and popcorn.

"In today’s market, most films need to make roughly 3 times their budget in order to even start seeing a profit."

so what your saying is that if a movie costs $100 to make and it takes in $103 then it didn't make any money.

 

[Motown Marvel]

Theaters take roughly half of the ticket sales first off

actually, within the first 2 weeks of a films opening (when SR, like most movies, do the majority of their business) theaters barely get 25% of the ticket sales.

and the films budget doesn’t account for the marketing costs to try and get people interested in the movies, among other things.

thats not always true, and is dependant on a film to film basis.

In today’s market, most films need to make roughly 3 times their budget in order to even start seeing a profit.

more like double.

And yes, the next film does have a chance to make money, IF: they correct the rather embarrassing marketing mistakes they made with the first one, making a more entertaining and action oriented film, and the WB needs to recognize when it’s out of its league. Honestly, whoever thought the Superman name would be able to stand up to the collective stardom of Depp, Bloom, and Knightly needs to be committed.

cant say i dont disagree with that one.

 

[GreenKToo]

I'm no expert and dont claim to be,but common sense says if the sequel has better marketing,a good story,more action,plus a supervillian, it will make more,maybe lots more."IF" it does have all of the before mentioned,even if the opening is not so great,W.O.M will take hold,and the money will come...On the other side of the coin, "IF" its more like S.R. with so so marketing,no supervillian,and the same level of action,it will prolly tank IMHO.

 

[The Kid]

If it's a restart it'll probably make a lot. If it's superboy adventures, no...

 

[Kebab gud]

it might be a superhit!... if they add action and a supervillian..
just look at the nest fantastic four movie .. i hate the first but im gitty as a little school girl over the next..

its all up to the director... and i think singer has seen the light, call it blind faith

PS: Superman Returns has made more money then Batman Begins worldwide.. do you all hate BB aswell? was that a flopp too?
infact only tim burtons batman made more money then Superman Returns.. (not ajusted for inflation)

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Singer hasnt seen anything, his little quote about giving "Super-bastard" more screen time in the next film should tell you that.

 

[The Kid]

Yes, Kebab... Begins failed to do batman justice and is hated by batfans...

 

[GreenKToo]

well,if they can re-make the Hulk,anything is possible..its supposed to be bigger and better than the first,so we'll see I suppose...I just think that the W.B. will insist on more action for the sequel.

 

[Catman]

the original poster was saying the sequel isnt likely to make money since there was so much hate towards superman returns. when in fact, the film was very well recieved by the general audience (see numbers below), and its just a very vocal minority of haters that seem to have congregated here to flame the movie.

imdb average user rating gave superman returns 7/10.
box office mojo average user rating gave it a 'B'.
rotten tomatoes critics: 76% fresh.
rotten tomatoes average user rating: 79%

Maybe the haters are just more vocal. IMDb may say 7/10 but if you look at the boards its nothing but hate. I don't know. It should be interesting to see what happens.

 

[bunk]

Anger always makes people more vocal than any other emotion. When you mute the people screaming, you can then hear what the majority of people are saying.

 

[Kebab gud]

Yes, Kebab... Begins failed to do batman justice and is hated by batfans...

funny.. im a batfan and i love Begins.. finaly a batman movie about batman! not his enemys..

 

[Catman]

Anger always makes people more vocal than any other emotion. When you mute the people screaming, you can then hear what the majority of people are saying.

I see. I'm sure the Batman & Robin lovers say the same.

 

[DvilDog]

I think batman and robin was actually the only batman flick i havent liked. As for SR and MOS I liked SR so as long as singer doesnt go the Ratner route with MOS then I will be happy. Of course im sure a lot of you enjoyed X3 so my apologies if i offended anyone

 

[Freddy_Krueger]

I see. I'm sure the Batman & Robin lovers say the same.

Those don't exist.

 

[GreenKToo]

B&R...man,I really tried to like it,but I just couldnt get past those Bat-ice skates.

 

[Hugebear]

It depends on the title of the movie.


SUPERMAN RETIRES

The son becomes the father in 2009. t:

 

[Catman]

SUPERMAN RETIRES

The son becomes the father in 2009. t:

LMFAO t:

 

[Kebab gud]

I see. I'm sure the Batman & Robin lovers say the same.

bull**** .. as there is noone on earth that LIKES that movie ..

the thing i hate the most with it is the "swhoop" sound when the goons slip on the ice... my god its worse then Superman IV ..

 

[bunk]

There is one guy who like B&R. He just got re-elected.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Yeah, the movie will make plenty. But not as much as SR, resulting in Singer's demise and no third.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Maybe the haters are just more vocal. IMDb may say 7/10 but if you look at the boards its nothing but hate. I don't know. It should be interesting to see what happens.

The haters have a very sizeable minority to allow them to be very vocal.

And the haters are a lot more vocal than those who liked it.

 

[Karea07]

haters of anything are always more vocal

 

[Catman]

The lovers should be vocal too.

 

[hippie_hunter]

haters of anything are always more vocal

Not really. The Spider-Man haters, Batman Begins haters and a few others weren't quite vocal because they simply didn't have the numbers to be vocal.

The haters of movies such as CINO, Batman & Robin, SINO, etc. really don't count because those movies are basically universally hated by nearly everyone.

The Superman Returns haters population is quite big despite being in the minority. It allows them to be vocal.