The Official Contest of Marvels 3 Discussion Thread

[JewishHobbit]

Okay, the list is updated and characters moved to wherever they need be.

Alpha Flight

1. Arachne
2. Aurora
3. Beta Ray Bill
4. Madison Jeffries (Weapon X)
5. Northstar
6. Sasquatch
7. Shaman
8. Snowbird
9. Talisman
10. The Master
11. U.S. Agent
12. Weapon Omega (Michael Pointer)
13. Wild Child

Avengers

14. Annex
15. Black Panther
16. Bloodwraith
17. Bulldozer
18. Captain America (Steve Rogers)
19. Captain America (Bucky)
20. Cloud 9
21. Constrictor
22. Crusader
23. Firebird
24. Grim Reaper
25. Hank Pym
26. Hawkeye (Kate Bishop)
27. Hercules
28. Hulkling
29. Iron Fist
30. Iron Lad
31. Iron Man
32. Jack of Hearts
33. Jocasta
34. Justice
35. Kang
36. K.I.A.
37. Klaw
38. Komodo
39. Living Lightning
40. Lord Templar
41. Luke Cage
42. Mandarin
43. Ms. Marvel
44. Patriot
45. Piledriver
46. Proctor
47. Prodigy (Ritchie Gilmore)
48. Pulsar
49. Purple Man
50. Quicksilver
51. Rage
52. Red Skull
53. Ronin (Clint Barton)
54. Sentry
55. Sersi
56. She-Hulk
57. Slapstick
58. Speed
59. Spider-Woman (Veranke)
60. Starfox
61. Stature
62. Taskmaster
63. Trauma
64. The Hood
65. Thunderball
66. Tigra
67. Ultra Girl
68. Vision (Original)
69. War Machine
70. Wasp
71. Wiccan
72. Wonderman
73. Wrecker
74. X-51

Cosmic

75. Air-Walker
76. Annihilus
77. Astra
78. Blastaar
79. Bug
80. Captain Marvel (Genis)
81. Chod
82. Darkhawk
83. Deathbird
84. Drax
85. Earthquake
86. Firelord
87. Gamora
88. Gladiator
89. Harvest (Phalanx)
90. Havoc
91. Korvus
92. Mantis
93. Marvel Girl
94. Maxam
95. Moondragon (Human)
96. Neutron
97. Nova
98. Oracle
99. Paibok The Power Skrull
100. Plutonia
101. Polaris
102. Praxagora
103. Quasar (Phyla Vell)
104. Raza
105. Red Shift
106. Rocket Racoon
107. Ronan The Accuser
108. Star Lord (Peter Quill)
109. Super Skrull
110. Titan
111. Ultron (Phalanx)
112. Vulcan
113. Warlock (Phalanx)
114. Warstar
115. Wraith (Zak-Del)
116. Zenith

Daredevil

117. Black Tarantula
118. Daredevil
119. Elektra
120. Kingpin
121. Typhoid Mary
122. White Tiger (Angela Del Toro)

Exiles

123. Blink (Exiles)
124. Holocaust
125. Hyperion (Exiles)
126. Mimic (Exiles)
127. Morph (Exiles)
128. Psylocke
129. Sabretooth (Exiles)
130. Sasquatch (Exiles)
131. Spider (Exiles)
132. Thunderbird (Exiles)

Fantastic Four

133. Agatha Harkness
134. Crystal
135. Diablo
136. Doctor Doom
137. Frankie Raye
138. Gorgon (Inhuman)
139. Grey Gargoyle
140. Human Torch
141. Invisible Woman
142. Karnak
143. Lyja Lazerfist
144. Marvel Girl (Valeria Richards)
145. Medusa
146. Morgan Le Fay
147. Mr. Fantastic
148. Nathaniel Richards
149. Psi-Lord
150. Psycho Man
151. Thing
152. Thundra
153. Trapster

Incredible Hulk

154. Abomination
155. Absorbing Man
156. Amadeus Cho
157. Bi-Beast
158. Boomerang
159. Doctor Sampson
160. Half Life
161. Hiroim
162. Hulk (Savage)
163. Iron Clad (U-Foes)
164. Korg
165. Leader
166. Maestro
167. Mercy
168. Miek
169. Mr. Hyde
170. Speedfreek
171. Super Adaptoid
172. Tyrannus
173. Vapor (U-Foes)
174. Vector (U-Foes)
175. Wendigo
176. X-Ray (U-Foes)
177. Zzzax

Potentials
Ant-Man (Eric O'Grady)
Ant-Man (Scott Lang)
Captain Britain (Kelsey Leigh)
Debrii
Doorman
Echo
Gorilla Girl
Guardian (James Hudson)
Hardball
Jessica Jones
Mr. Immortal
Mutant Zero
Pagan
Phobos
Brood (No-Name)
Madman
Protocide
The Ghost
The Presence
Scarlet Spider (MVP)
Scarlet Witch
Silver Claw
Squirrel Girl
Vindicator
Whirlwind
Windshear
Adam Warlock
Cosmo
G-Type
Groot
Hepzibah
Quasar (Wendall Vaughn)
Smasher
Blackbolt
Huntara
Jolen
Maximus the Mad
Nahrees
Red Ghost
Texas Twister
Vibraxas
Wizard
Woz
Black Widow

 

[Phaedrus45]

Here are some characters I found, that we already passed over. Maybe put them in potential or save them for the end. There are a few Iron Man characters that probably go under Avengers; but, are in his solo adventures.

Alkhema - Avengers
Amphibeon - Hulk
Arsenal - Iron Man
Baron Strucker - Avengers -I didn't realize how powerful he is, especially with the death spores in his body
Berserker - Avengers
Copperhead - Daredevil
Crimson Dynamo - Iron Man
Darkstar - Hulk
Killmonger - Marvel Knights
Lockdown - Fantastic Four
Maelstrom - Cosmic (Quasar)
Machinesmith - Marvel Knights
Magdalene - Avengers
Malice - Marvel Knights
Midnight Sun - Marvel Knights
Sabra - Hulk
S'byll - Cosmic (Silver Surfer)
Sunturion - Iron Man
Terminatrix - Avengers
Torgo - Fantastic 4
Ultimo - Iron Man

 

[JewishHobbit]

So let's just use the old Lady Deathstrike.

I think he meant Lady Bullseye.

 

[Phaedrus45]

So let's just use the old Lady Deathstrike.

Oh, I had a brainfart...I was thinking Lady Bullseye for some reason. Never mind what I said before. I'll differ to you two guys.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Here are some characters I found, that we already passed over. Maybe put them in potential or save them for the end. There are a few Iron Man characters that probably go under Avengers; but, are in his solo adventures.

Alkhema - Avengers
Amphibeon - Hulk
Arsenal - Iron Man
Baron Strucker - Avengers -I didn't realize how powerful he is, especially with the death spores in his body
Berserker - Avengers
Copperhead - Daredevil
Crimson Dynamo - Iron Man
Darkstar - Hulk
Killmonger - Marvel Knights
Lockdown - Fantastic Four
Maelstrom - Cosmic (Quasar)
Machinesmith - Marvel Knights
Magdalene - Avengers
Malice - Marvel Knights
Midnight Sun - Marvel Knights
Sabra - Hulk
S'byll - Cosmic (Silver Surfer)
Sunturion - Iron Man
Terminatrix - Avengers
Torgo - Fantastic 4
Ultimo - Iron Man

Cool. I'm leaving now, but I'll root through this when I get home for lunch if I have time. Let's focus on these and see what we can find in them before doing the MI:13/Marvel UK stuff.

Actually, let's do these, then Marvel Horrors, then Marvel UK to keep things in order for numbering sake. We're starting to mix it up a bit and that could result in missed characters and such.

 

[wiegeabo]

Keep
Albion
Black Knight (Dane Whitman)
Blade
Captain Britain (Brian Braddock)
Captain U.K.
Cerise
Deaths Head (Minion)
Digitek
Hurricane
Killpower
Meggan
Motormouth
Pete Wisdom
Spitfire
Union Jack

Potential:
The Agent (Rick Mason)
John the Skrull - As mentioned, I think we have quite a few skrulls already.
Kylun


Drop
Faiza Hussain

I'll defer to you guys on these. But I say drop Rick, doesn't seem impressive. Drop John, we have Skrulls and he doesn't seem like an impressive Skrull.

Kylun's a good potential.

Drop Faiza because he seems to be pretty new with unknown abilities?

 

[JewishHobbit]

Baron Strucker - Avengers
Alkhema - Avengers
Darkstar - Hulk
Lockdown - Fantastic Four
Machinesmith - Marvel Knights
Midnight Sun - Marvel Knights
Sabra - Hulk
Sunturion - Iron Man
Ultimo - Iron Man

Of the above list, these are the ones that stand out for me as potentials. I'm not sure any of them strike me as definate keepers though. Maybe Strucker. However, I can be easily swayed and just about any of them can be pushed to keep if either of you prefer it.

 

[Phaedrus45]

I'll defer to you guys on these. But I say drop Rick, doesn't seem impressive. Drop John, we have Skrulls and he doesn't seem like an impressive Skrull.

Kylun's a good potential.

Drop Faiza because he seems to be pretty new with unknown abilities?

That sounds good to me. With all the excellent characters, dropping Rick is probably best.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Baron Strucker - Avengers
Alkhema - Avengers
Darkstar - Hulk
Lockdown - Fantastic Four
Machinesmith - Marvel Knights
Midnight Sun - Marvel Knights
Sabra - Hulk
Sunturion - Iron Man
Ultimo - Iron Man

Of the above list, these are the ones that stand out for me as potentials. I'm not sure any of them strike me as definate keepers though. Maybe Strucker. However, I can be easily swayed and just about any of them can be pushed to keep if either of you prefer it.

Your list is good for me. I like those characters, too. Ultimo has a fondness for me. My first Iron Man comic had him in it. I think it was somewhere around issue #96.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Cool. I'm leaving now, but I'll root through this when I get home for lunch if I have time. Let's focus on these and see what we can find in them before doing the MI:13/Marvel UK stuff.

Actually, let's do these, then Marvel Horrors, then Marvel UK to keep things in order for numbering sake. We're starting to mix it up a bit and that could result in missed characters and such.

Do you just want to complete the Marvel UK while we have gotten all that done? BTW, what was your opinion on Excalibur? Do we want to put those characters in this list, except for the obvious mutants, like Kitty and Nightcrawler? Oh, and are there any other New Invaders you want on this list, like Flaming Skull, or whatever his name was?

Here is my new list, as I can agree with what Wiegeabo said:

Keep
Albion
Black Knight (Dane Whitman)
Blade
Captain Britain (Brian Braddock)
Captain U.K.
Cerise
Deaths Head (Minion)
Digitek
Hurricane
Killpower
Meggan
Motormouth
Pete Wisdom
Spitfire
Union Jack

Potential:
Kylun


Drop
Faiza Hussain
The Agent (Rick Mason)
John the Skrull

 

[JewishHobbit]

Okay, my take on the U.K. characters (might as well finish them out). Anyone new I added a bio link for.

Keep
Albion (Bran Bardic)
Albion (Peter Hunter)
Black Knight (Dane Whitman)
Blade
Blazing Skull
Captain Britain (Brian Braddock)
Cerise
Charnel - Unless you guys think he's too uber.
Deaths Head II
Death Metal
Killpower
Kylun
Major Oak
Meggan
Methinks
Pete Wisdom
Spitfire
Thin Man
Union Jack

Potential
Digitek - Seems confusing for me, but I can be pursuaded.

Drop
Faiza Hussain
The Agent (Rick Mason)
John the Skrull
Motormouth - Besides being annoying to read, I just don't see her doing much.
Hurricane - Not enough info.
Captain U.K. - I like her but with Captain Britain and Albion, we don't need another.
Micromax - I like him, but we have better size changers already.


Now... some notes from above. As you an see there have been two Albions and I like them both, so I gave them names if you guys want to look into them. Also, I included Excalibur save the obvious mutants, as Phaed said. It makes sense for them to be here. I also added a few New Invaders after Phaed mentioned them because they make sense in this section as well (Blazing Skull and Thin Man). And as for Death's Head (Minion)... I changed it to Death's Head II (because it's the same thing and this is what he's best known as).

 

[wiegeabo]

Ok, went through them, all.

Keep
Albion (Which Albion? Bardic or Hunter? Both sound good)
Black Knight (Dane Whitman)
Blade
Captain Britain (Brian Braddock)
Cerise
Deaths Head (Minion)
Killpower
Meggan
Pete Wisdom
Spitfire
Union Jack

Potential:
Captain U.K.
Hurricane
Kylun
Digitek
Motormouth


Drop
Faiza Hussain[/I]
The Agent (Rick Mason)
John the Skrull[/QUOTE]

 

[JewishHobbit]

Your list is good for me. I like those characters, too. Ultimo has a fondness for me. My first Iron Man comic had him in it. I think it was somewhere around issue #96.

Okay, I'll add all these to the potential list. It looks like we're going to have more characters in Keep than we need, so I figure when we get it widdled down we can go through the potential list one more time and see if we want to make any adjustments. I figure that'd be a good time to reargue for some of our higher liked characters, such as Ultimo.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Yeah, I think Charnel is too uber. In his powers, the highlighted areas would be cause for concern:

As Charnel he merged his body with that of the Death's Head mechanoid gaining it's superhuman strength (class 10-25), durability and futuristic weaponry. He can use his necromancy for various effects. He could increase his strength (potentially to class 100 and incalculable levels, dependant on the amount of energy at his disposal), durability and size, and regenerate virtually any wound. He could wield necromantic blasts and absorb magic, energy and powers to increase his own abilities.
Using the Scarlet Witch's powers he could reshape reality in his image, even killing people with just a thought, and his other abilities increase to incalculable levels (it is in that form that an alternate Charnel would go on to bring about Earth-Charnel). He lost Scarlet Witch's power when his body was torn in two by the time belts.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Keep
Albion (Bran Bardic)
Albion (Peter Hunter)
Black Knight (Dane Whitman)
Blade
Blazing Skull
Captain Britain (Brian Braddock)
Cerise
Deaths Head II
Death Metal - Cool character. I like him.
Digitek - He's in the Handbook, and seemed cool. But, I'm cool with putting him in potential if you guys wish.
Hurricane - There is actually quite a bit of info on him, as he's in the Official Handbook with a full page bio.
Killpower
Meggan
Pete Wisdom
Spitfire
Thin Man
Union Jack

Potential
Kylun
Major Oak - I saw him in the handbook, but passed because his power levels were pretty low.
Methinks - I'm mixed on this character. I can swing both ways, with potential or keep. Whatever Wiegeabo thinks, I'll go with. I'm just thinking we got the two best Deaths Head characters with Death's Head II and Death Metal.

Drop
Charnel
Faiza Hussain
The Agent (Rick Mason)
John the Skrull
Major Oak - I saw him in the handbook, but passed because his power levels were pretty low.
Motormouth
Captain U.K.
Micromax

 

[wiegeabo]

Alkhema - Avengers
Amphibeon - Hulk
Arsenal - Iron Man
Baron Strucker - Avengers -I didn't realize how powerful he is, especially with the death spores in his body
Berserker - Avengers
Copperhead - Daredevil
Crimson Dynamo - Iron Man
Darkstar - Hulk
Killmonger - Marvel Knights (Potential, although I'm fine with him since Panther is in)
Lockdown - Fantastic Four (Got a link?)
Maelstrom - Cosmic (Quasar) (Got a link?)
Machinesmith - Marvel Knights
Magdalene - Avengers (Got a link?)
Malice - Marvel Knights (Is this the one with no body that appears as a necklace to those she posesses? Wasn't there a real problem with finding ways to fight her before?)
Midnight Sun - Marvel Knights
Sabra - Hulk
S'byll - Cosmic (Silver Surfer) (Is this the Skrull Queen or whatever?)
Sunturion - Iron Man
Terminatrix - Avengers (Got a link?)
Torgo - Fantastic 4 (Is he just a normal vampire, or is there something special about him?)
Ultimo - Iron Man



Killmonger doesn't seem like a big deal. But if he can hang with the Panther, I guess he's ok.

Malice was a big problem trying to find a way to stop her. She could essentiall just possess every opponent except possibly those that can fight on the astral level. Are we ok with someone that hard to fight? If so, she's going high on my draft list.

If Torgo is just your standard vampire, I'd rather have big name vamps like Dracula and Morpheus.

 

[wiegeabo]

I agree, Charnel may be too hard too beat. Possibly a high herald or Thanos could take him, but seeing as how they're tuber...

Major Oak (Potential or Keep) I like the adaptation ability. Of course, he has to survive and attack to adapt to it...

MeThinks (Potential or Keep)

 

[JewishHobbit]

Shew... okay, give me a few minutes and I'll have an updated list on Marvel UK

 

[wiegeabo]

You didn't think I'd make it easy by putting things in any kind of order, did you?

 

[JewishHobbit]

Definate Keep
Albion (Bran Bardic)
Albion (Peter Hunter)
Black Knight (Dane Whitman)
Blade
Blazing Skull
Captain Britain (Brian Braddock)
Cerise
Deaths Head II
Death Metal
Killpower
Meggan
Pete Wisdom
Spitfire
Thin Man
Union Jack

Potential
Kylun
Digitek

Drop
Charnel
Faiza Hussain
The Agent (Rick Mason)
John the Skrull
Motormouth
Captain U.K.
Micromax

1Keep/1Drop/1Potential
Hurricane (that's a first)

1Keep/1Drop/1 "Either Or" which isn't any help
Major Oak
Methinks


Okay, so we have to work on those last three. I'm cool with a potential on Hurricane... but I'm kinda fond of Methinks and Major Oaks. If you both say potential then cool, but if anyone wants to join me then I'd be happier .

 

[wiegeabo]

You know what? Keep Major Oak. Potential MeThinks.

I'd like to see a better bio on Hurricane.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Also, I spent some time tonight going over the original list and moved some characters around to where they should be (such as Venom (Gargan) and Norman Osborn to Thunderbolts), and I rooted through the Misc. section and was able to find a home for most of those. I also constructed a Marvel Horrors section, and it's actually really large. I'm surprised we had so many options in addition to those Phaed listed. We'll do that one next.

 

[JewishHobbit]

You know what? Keep Major Oak. Potential MeThinks.

I'd like to see a better bio on Hurricane.

Okay, I'll make the adjustments. I said I'm okay with Hurricane as a Potential, but to be honest I"m still iffy. Looking online I couldn't find anything decent (it doesn't help that there's been 4 or 5 of them so they all get jumbled together in google searches.

"2 minute search later"

Insert Foot In Mouth.

 

[JewishHobbit]

You know... I think I like him. I'll say keep.. and along with Phaed's Keep that makes him a Keeper.

Next up:

Marvel Horror
Baron Blood
Baroness Blood
Baron Mordo
Big Mother
Blackout
Brother Blood
Brother Voodoo
Clea
Damien Hellstrom
Deathwatch
Delilah
Devil-Slayer
Dracula
Dr. Strange
D'spayre
Dweller-In-Darkness
Elsa Bloodstone
Foundry
Frankenstein's Monster
Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze)
Ghost RIder (Danny Ketch)
Hangman
Hellstorm
Immortalis
Jack O-Lantern
Jack The Ripper
Jaine Cutter
Hannibal King
Man-Wolf
Marie Laveau
Metarchus
Moon Knight
Morbius
Lilith - Mother of Demons
Lilith - Daughter of Dracula
Living Mummy
Patriarch
Regent
Scarecrow
Terror
Thog
Vampire By Night
Vengeance
Vermin
Werewolf By Night
Zombie

Now this might take me a while (and probably won't be tonight) as I'll have to actually look up 95% of these characters.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Devil-Slayer for this group?


Eric Simon Payne with the Shadow Cloak. Pretty fun and classic Defender.