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The Official Detective Comics Thread

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It seemed like a good idea to me to have a thread for this like was suggested in the "I dont understand" thread, and someone should also start one for just Batman. So what did you guys think of the new issue of Detective? I was sort of bummed that
riddler doesnt remember bruce is batman
, but it was really well written.
 
I really enjoyed it. I've been on board for only two issues(just now getting into DC) and I must say, IMO this was better than #655.

Plus the cover was sweet.
 
Was that the first nonTAS appearance of Roxy Rocket? I don't recall seeing her in continuity before.
 
I thought it was something to do with IC. I'm still a DC newblet.:(
 
seriously? That sucks....

is he in classic riddler garb, or that strange new look?
 
I think he remembers at the end.
 
I was thinking about getting a subscription.

Good idea?
 
The Batman said:
How does he not remember?

It was revealed that he was in a coma most of the '52' year. When he came out, they realized contracted amnesia.
Very convenient I'd say.
 
The Batman said:
seriously? That sucks....

is he in classic riddler garb, or that strange new look?

classic...black slacks, white shirt, green smoking jacket with question marks and matching bowler hat...sunglasses instead of the domino mask
 
Flexo said:
I was thinking about getting a subscription.

Good idea?
Excellent idea, especially with Dini on board now (though I don't know how long his run is). I've really enjoyed the title since the OYL jump. They've really played up the 'detective' aspect of Batman, which gets the big 'thumbs up'. I like the two recent one-shots, but I do hope Dini gets to do an whole arc.
 
I believe Dini is doing 6 issues all together, all one shots
 
The Joker said:
I believe Dini is doing 6 issues all together, all one shots

*Seemingly* oneshots from what I undertand. Apparently, there'll be something at the end to tie them all together.
 
snipe said:
It was revealed that he was in a coma most of the '52' year. When he came out, they realized contracted amnesia.
Very convenient I'd say.

This reminds me of norman osborn getting amnesia back in the classic days of spider-man...
 
The Batman said:
This reminds me of norman osborn getting amnesia back in the classic days of spider-man...

well Norman had multiple personalities, so it wasnt really so much amnesia as it was his Norman Osborn personality didnt share the Goblin personalities memories.
 
If thats the case, here is a repost of my review of #821 & #822:

DETECTIVE COMICS #821

PLOT:
Gotham's wealthiest citizens find themselves victimized by the mysterious new villain Facade. Operating with a gang trained to pass as members of the cities' elite, the masked mastermind's crimes baffle the police and leave members of Gotham society fearing for their lives. It's up to Batman to use a "facade" of his own, that of socialite Bruce Wayne, in order to bait the villain's underlings and discover the true identity of their elusive leader.

REVIEW:

Lets start with a "wow" for this issue. Paul Dini has written something that gives us a detective mystery feeling page by page, and above all to all DCAU fans; an issue that feels like its an episode of Batman: The Animated Series. Even the text in the boxes of the panels are written like the letters from the BTAS logo. Including the talk between Batman & Robin, Batman & Gordon, Bruce and Alfred, even the final lines of the issue have all these feelings from the show. The only thing that doesn't have that feeling, from Dini's writing, are those boxes that sound like the Dini/Ross book: BATMAN: WAR ON CRIME.

At first I thought that would be it for the review, but I decided that I should talk about the new villian. Simiply because he is NEW. The villian, Facade, is pretty weird. He must have an obsession for dummies as he collects them. He must have this thing for faceless people as he also wears a mask that covers his face so you can't see inside and reflects everything. A villain that was a nobody that wanted to be a somebody and knew how to get that.

Overall; this was nice. Now, this isn't an arc at all. At first I thought it was but it seems it isn't. The next issue is different that this. The only thing these issues of Detective Comics share is the cover by Simone Bianchi. I could be wrong if the next issue picks up where this left off, which the next ones don't have anything that seem to come from this issue. And that the title doesn't have Part 1 next to it. So this is one story issue. The next will be new and un-connected to this one.

RATING: 9/10

DETECTIVE COMICS #822

PLOT:
When Karrie Bishop, a woman that Bruce Wayne saw her last, is murdered. Her case ends up being sloved by a seemly-reformed Riddler. Not even trusting the man who still may or may not his secret behind the mask, Batman decides to solve the murder case even if Riddler tends to stay around.

REVIEW:
Paul Dini must like doing the Batman books as Roxy Rocket, a character he and Timm created for the show, makes her first comic book appearence. While only a cameo appearence, and her looking as the same as the show, her appearence alone gives her the opening for the future in the books.

But on the book itself, it was another good mystery story. I can't but see it as a BTAS episode, of course with some adult elements since this is a comic book (for example: BDSM scene). Dini likes to gives us a detective story and have us, the audience, find out when Batman has pieced everything together. Some people may want a story where we find out everything before Batman does but this is better. This is written nicely.

The Riddler comes here so its not a new villian. It seems that what happened that got him into a coma a year ago has made him forget Bruce is Batman that was told in Batman: Hush. I should also point out that his green mask has been replaced with just sunglasses like I saw him wear in Alex Ross' Justice. I don't know if that was an idea they threw in or its what Riddler will look like until the next change. Either way, I like what he looks like better.

I don't know but it seems Riddler had made alot of "friends" in the BDSM private club as he said he met his henchgirls there. Yes, maybe in THAT way. Batman knows the headmistress by the name Pandora. But no, not in THAT way though.

Overall, as I said above, this was a good mystery storyline by Dini on Batman. Dini said these issues will lead up to something. I wonder what it is.

RATING: 9/10

BTW, probably in keeping witht he fact that Gotham is based on NYC, Pandora's Box is ana ctual BDSM place in NYC.
 
Detective Comics #822Paul Dini is rocking this title. Another stand alone issue (remember Dini says they might not be as stand alone as you think) involving the murder of Bruce Wayne's "friend" and The Riddler, now refromed comes to his aid. Twists and turns abound, its great that we get to see Batman live up to the Worlds Greatest Detective title. Kramer's art was at his best but I think we can all agree that JHWIII is missed. Wont compare to Morrison's Batman since they both have different agendas but its great to see a beginning, middle and end in one issue, stand alones rock. 10/10
 
snipe said:
Was that the first nonTAS appearance of Roxy Rocket? I don't recall seeing her in continuity before.


Yes, awesome.:D
 
Another great issue from Dini.

Though I thought it was a rather "Marvel-like cop out" on the "Oh, by the way, Riddler was in a coma and he has amnesia...so he doesn't remember you're Batman".

Batman: Whew, gotta love those super convenient retcons!

But it was cool the way Riddler thought that he had figured it out, but Batman was the one who pursued the true murderer. Awesome touch. Though I think either Riddler remembers that Bruce is Batman, or has an inkling, or he suspects that it's Jim Gordon, which would be ******ed. But I couldn't tell what the hell he meant at the end.

Awesome issue despite the crappy, cliched retcon.
 
SpideyInATree said:
Another great issue from Dini.

Though I thought it was a rather "Marvel-like cop out" on the "Oh, by the way, Riddler was in a coma and he has amnesia...so he doesn't remember you're Batman".

Batman: Whew, gotta love those super convenient retcons!

But it was cool the way Riddler thought that he had figured it out, but Batman was the one who pursued the true murderer. Awesome touch. Though I think either Riddler remembers that Bruce is Batman, or has an inkling, or he suspects that it's Jim Gordon, which would be ******ed. But I couldn't tell what the hell he meant at the end.

Awesome issue despite the crappy, cliched retcon.


Though, Riddler was shown getting whacked over the head in IC #7.
 
Darthphere said:
Though, Riddler was shown getting whacked over the head in IC #7.

Yeah, but he still conveniently has amnesia over certain things. That's the BEST they could come up with?

Besides I think that he remembers at the end of the issue, or he thinks it's Jim Gordon...which would be dumb...but that's what I got out of it.
 
SpideyInATree said:
Yeah, but he still conveniently has amnesia over certain things. That's the BEST they could come up with?

Besides I think that he remembers at the end of the issue, or he thinks it's Jim Gordon...which would be dumb...but that's what I got out of it.


Well we can probably thank a Super-punch for that.
 
Another mediocre issue.

This whole Ridder-as-a-good-guy is just as terrible a turn for the character as the metrosexual thing was.

The amnesia is SO F***ING STUPID. Jesus Christ, can DC possibly retcon anything else out?

And the revelation at the end was pretty lame. Instead of it being a case of, "wow, I should have seen that!" it was, "uh... who?"

At least Batman didn't push anyone in front of a train this time.
 
You know whats funny, I dont know if hes being serious or just being a joking ass as usual.
 

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