The Official Flash Thread - Part 2

[Crockett]

He for 'Dragon' was if I'm not mistaken but he didn't take credit. Like how Jonathan Nolan did a polish for Batman Begins and didn't get a credit. His work on 'Dragon' led to a producing gig for King Fu Panda and future Dreamwork's cartoons.

Really? I mean here's a quote from del Toro about HTTYD.

"They took risks with that movie with pathos and imagination and structure. It made me pay attention,” del Toro said.

http://screenrant.com/guillermo-del-toro-dreamsworks-animation-trollhunters-ross-80227/

I take it as the movie impressed him and then he went on and did uncredited work for Megamind, which came out after. Is there anywhere del Toro mentioned his uncredited work on HTTYD?

 

[Octoberist]

I heard it on the slash rpm podcast a few months ago. They could be wrong with the info but they kept on saying del toro was involved!

 

[Airwings]

Octoberist: No I wasn't writing only to you. The general idea among people here is that they should scrap the script because it has the same writers as Green Lantern.

 

[Octoberist]

I don't particulary trust the writers. Even the rough draft of Green Lantern's script had the same issues (though written better) that the final film had.

 

[Crockett]

They don't have to scrap the script but they could get a new writer to rewrite and polish it.

 

[MadVillainy]

Scrap it I say. I mean if the guys who wrote GL wrote this draft then they should just start fresh

 

[Airwings]

No, it only needs polishing. Hear me out!

 

[MadVillainy]

You didnt really say anything lol. There's nothing much to hear out


ANd why would they keep a script by writers who just wrote a commercial and critical disappointment? Then again the guy who directed Priest and Legion gets to keep making movies.

Anyway, just let a new writer come in and write something new. Why should he/she be weighed down by previous drafts

 

[Airwings]

Maybe because the recent script has some really good qualities that should be used in a live action Flash? It can't be all crap, 100%.

 

[Crockett]

Better safe than sorry, I'll say.

Anyway didn't Berlanti mentioned the tone of The Flash something like The Silence of the Lambs and The Matrix. For a Flash movie? I'm not feeling it.
It should have a light-tone and be fun, something along the line of say Iron Man. Now that it's a step in the right direction regarding the tone.

 

[Airwings]

With Flash, Berlanti might want to do something new for a superhero movie. That means no Iron Man wanna-be. Superhero live action can't always be light-tone and fun. Sometime along the line, they HAVE to do something else.
And a character with Flash's powers and abilities can work well with a more serious approach. I tink it's just the name "Flash" that stands in the way, because people seem to link that name with fun, and it's impossible for them to imagine anything else. But the actual powers can be handled seriously! So why just come up with a whole new character with identical abilities and make THAT film instead!!!!!

 

[Crockett]

I don't have faith in superhero movies that will be good if Berlanti is involved, not now after GL. Going for a serious approach isn't exactly something else either, it's been done before.

 

[chiefchirpa]

"Serious approach" does not go hand-in-hand with bright red/scarlet coverall costume whether it's spandex, leather, synthetic, etc.

Iron Man works because the costume is a mechanical exosuit. Daredevil tone down the red and the dark scenes help him even more.

 

[Octoberist]

We can all agree that 'serious' shouldn't be the way to go. It should be fun but with serious moments, like JJ Abrams' Star Trek.

Right, Airwing. Righhhttt?

 

[terry78]

You really can't make a movie about Flash all that moody and serious. The series knows how to be serious when it needs to, but the character himself coupled with his rogues...a lot of it gets tongue in cheek at times.

 

[Airwings]

The color of the suit has NOTHING to do with the tone of the film. The POWERS Flash has will work very well with a serious approach, and therefor should be done that way. You guys are too hanged up with the name of the character and the costume to understand how epic this can be if handled the right way.

 

[Octoberist]

I think the problem us that you're kinda broad with your answers. You don't have an example.

And when I mention JJ's 'Star Trek', a movie with a great balance in tone (but not directly the subject matter) you dont reply hardly and just go back to your argument.

 

[Octoberist]

I wouldn't have an issue of seriousness at all but the screenwriter always gives the most bizarre examples (Se7en, Lambs) an that's why people are confused.

If the investigations during Barry's cases are darker in nature juxtaposed with the rest of the film's 'fun vibe' that's ok. But if the entire film feels like that, then I'll question I'd the screenwriters know what they're talking about.

(And please again, acknowledge 'star Trek and what you think of the tone.)

 

[Airwings]

The older Star Trek films were different from each other. Motion Picture was slow and mysterious, The Voyage Home was entertaining, The Undiscovered Country was serious, Nemesis more action-driven. But not all of them are truly great.
We should not use the reboot as the Star Trek film to represent the tone in Flash, the franchice of ten films before that has some good elements too.

And I want the seriousness to take bigger part in the plot than any fun vibe

 

[Octoberist]

then give mea good example then. You haven't yet.

 

[HighFivingMF]

And I want the seriousness to take bigger part in the plot than any fun vibe[/COLOR]

Then it's not a Flash movie that you're looking for.

 

[Airwings]

HighFiveMF: It is the Flash movie that AIRWINGS (me) is looking for

Octoberist: I have given examples of what I mean. Earlier in this thread. Perhaps you have forgotten? Or perhaps they don't work as examples because they are from X-Men and Spider-Man? You want only examples from The Flash? Then I can't help you.

I think Warner Bros should stand up and be strong now. And make that Flash movie. It can come out late 2013, it's not too late for that if the production starts soon.
The box office numbers of Green lantern should not scare them off. Just give scarlet speedster be a little cheaper film and then it will work.
Devon Sawa for Barry Allen. Ridley Scott as director (will be a safe bet for success). But I guess the studio doesn't understand how to do this the right way, and because of that The Flash will perhaps never happen.

 

[Timstuff]

Flash is DC's most fun superhero. If anything, Warner Bros. and Berlanti got the tone of Flash and GL backwards, and that is fail. At least Flash is only in early pre-production and there's still time to give Berlanti the boot and start over on the script.

 

[solidsnake86]

Have any of you actually read the script since some are so adamant they go in a different direction?

 

[Harley2004]

I would rather see Wally West, and please let them get rid of Berlanti. The Green Lantern was awful. The Flash is one of the best characters in any comis DC or Marvel. Hopefully hes done right.