The Official Flash Thread - Part 2

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grodd would be awesome as a movie villain, just not for a first movie and i wouldn't do much with gorilla city. people love gorillas in movies, think about king kong, mighty joe young, congo...audiences love apes, it's a scientific fact
 
Guys, how is talking gorilla not cool and a dude dressed up as an eskimo is?

My point is that The Flash is the only superhero that I can think of that has a very pulpy tone to it, and that's the charm.
 
Villains like Grodd are what make comics great.

LOL No liek seriously, supervillains must be teh gritteh and realistic yah!!!Men in tights are teh seriousness!!

Sigh, why can't fanboys just accept the inherent absurdness of superhero comics and embrace that instead of trying to water down everything and keep it "grounded"?
 
You know the response to Grodd would be that it's too campy. I don't believe that considering we know how much of a threat he can be, but a talking monkey in live action...yeah.
 
I like the idea of Grodd because, on the surface it's kind of cheesy, but the reality of it could be very frightening.
 
And that's really how things work with comic book supervillains. Look at the Green Goblin. He was dressed as a bright green and purple cartoon character who rode a broomstick and wanted to be a mob boss. Silly, wacky, and then he starts stalking our hero and tosses his girlfriend off a bridge. Not so silly anymore, and all the camp he has just serves to accentuate the terror that there's a seriously disturbed murderer under that mask.
 
grodd would be awesome as a movie villain, just not for a first movie and i wouldn't do much with gorilla city. people love gorillas in movies, think about king kong, mighty joe young, congo...audiences love apes, it's a scientific fact
Agreed.

Also have you guys seen videos of the gorilla that walked like a man a few weeks ago?

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You mean that behavior that apes display on a fairly regular basis and the media acted like it was something entirely new? Yes. I did.
 
I'm pretty sure King Kong wouldn't have gotten the same response if he were a talking gorilla. As soon as people see a talking animal in a superhero movie, they're gonna laugh at it.
 
I'm pretty sure King Kong wouldn't have gotten the same response if he were a talking gorilla. As soon as people see a talking animal in a superhero movie, they're gonna laugh at it.

Look at Tim Roth in Burton's POTA, he was by far the best thing about that movie, I could see a villan like that working in a superhero movie.
 
I think Albert Desmond's original criminal identity, Mr. Element, would be a better fit, for being science-based and easier to explain. Besides, with some modifications (Maybe taking cues from the Alex Petrov version), he'd have a great on-screen look.

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I like that idea but I think the costume would need a major overhaul or at least mix the two.

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Maybe keep the gas mask but add the hood. Using the Mr. Element character, maybe his technology could be the basis for the Rogues' tech in a sequel. Fire, ice, flat out weather manipulation. It can all come from reverse engineering his technology and putting it on the street or however The Rogues would come across it.

As for Grodd, I'd actually love for his reveal as a villain to be a major surprise. He can control people so maybe a lot of people can take the fall for his crimes only for it to turn out to be a freakin' gorilla behind everything. I also think he should talk telepathically rather than with full articulation of his jaw. His eyes should still express though. An angry Gorilla would be quite a site.

Now about where he comes from...That's tricky even for a cartoon. There are some things you just have to laugh at when the concept even comes up and Gorilla City is one of them. Though something similar to Congo would work well and be very creepy. A tropical city of telepathic apes...Yyyeah. If done right it can actually be threatening...God, would it take an effort though. I gotta tell ya, if Grodd never showed up in a movie I'd completely understand.
 
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This article says that Greg Berlanti is still interested in directing the Flash movie:

Greg Berlanti Back At Warner Bros. Television With Mega Deal

By NELLIE ANDREEVA Tuesday March 1, 2011 @ 8:43am PST

EXCLUSIVE: After 5 years at ABC Studios, Greg Berlanti is returning to Warner Bros. TV. The top showrunner has signed a four-year overall deal with Warner Bros. TV of the scale of the studio's top-tier pacts with such writer-producers as Chuck Lorre, J.J. Abrams and Bill Lawrence. Berlanti's eight-figure deal with the studio starts on June 1.

Berlanti is almost 3 years into a five-year deal at ABC Studios. He originally joined ABC Studios in the spring of 2006 and inked his current five-year deal in July 2008. In the past four-and-a-half years, he guided Brothers & Sisters from a troubled pilot in need of a reshoot to a successful series, now in its fifth season. He ran Brothers & Sisters for the first season and has continued to serve as an executive producer. He also developed and executive produced 3 pilots for ABC, all of which went to series: Eli Stone, which he co-wrote, Dirty Sexy Money and this year's freshman No Ordinary Family, which he also co-created.

But a lot has changed since Berlanti last renewed his vows with ABC Studios. His feature career took off, making him juggle TV producing with writing or directing movies. His ABC Studios deal had a provision allowing him to do that but I hear that his film obligations had created tension at ABC, in part because Berlanti's feature business has been for an outside studio, Warner Bros. Berlanti, in turn, reportedly dreaded telling ABC that he had gotten another feature gig.

On the film side, Berlanti co-wrote and is producing Warner Bros.' upcoming tentpole Green Lantern and is now working on a treatment for the sequel with Michael Green and Marc Guggenheim. He recently turned in a script for another Warner Bros. superhero movie project, The Flash, which Berlanti is producing with an eye to direct. He also rewrote and directed the Warner Bros. romantic comedy Life as We Know It and penned the story for the studio's upcoming Clash of the Titans sequel. Additionally, Berlanti has done uncredited polishes on several other Warner Bros. movies. As a result of him becoming the go-to guy for important projects, about a year ago, Warner Bros. quietly signed Berlanti in a feature producing deal.

With his feature business booming at Warner Bros., Berlanti and his team pondered bringing his film and TV operations under the same studio roof. Meanwhile, most of the people with whom Berlanti had strong relationships with at ABC Studios, former president Mark Pedowitz, ABC EVP Francie Calfo and ABC Studios head of drama Josh Barry, are now gone. And with a new man atop ABC and ABC Studios, Paul Lee, with whom Berlanti had no history, he explored the possibility of leaving. ABC Studios proved understanding, giving Berlanti an out and a short window to try to make a deal elsewhere. The only place Berlanti reached out to was Warner Bros. TV where he spent 4 years before going to ABC. Berlanti had remained close with many of the executives at WBTV, including president Peter Roth, EVP business affairs Brett Paul and EVP development Susan Rovner, so the studio brass jumped at the opportunity and a deal was struck with a week. The four-year pact will take Berlanti 2 years beyond the current 5-year term at ABC Studios. Just like Berlanti's ABC Studios agreement, the deal with WBTV will cover overhead for his Berlanti Television banner, which will now be renamed Berlanti Prods. to reflect the company's TV and film divisions coming together. Berlanti will be bringing with him to WBTV his development executive Melissa Berman and junior executive Carl Ogawa.

Having both his film and TV business at the same studio will eliminate any awkwardness associated with Berlanti jumping from a TV to a film project and back to TV and will make coordinating TV and film gigs far more efficiently, something Warner Bros. has done well with J.J. Abrams and Josh Schwartz. The deal with Warner Bros. TV also takes Berlanti to a place where he is very well liked. (Roth had told me several times in the past how much he regretted seeing Berlanti go in 2006). For Berlanti, the return to WBTV brings back fond memories as he created his first shows, Everwood and Jack & Bobby during his stint at the studio. He also is said to be looking forward to selling to all networks again instead of supplying one as was the case during his ABC Studios deal. Through Green Lantern and Flash, Berlanti is already working closely with Warner Bros.-owned DC Comics, a company that is also active on the TV side. Additionally, coming off Life as We Know It, Berlanti is reportedly looking to expand into a new area for his company - comedy series.

Berlanti, repped by WME and attorney Patti Felker, is the second A-list showrunner to be making a move from ABC Studios to WBTV in June, along with Scrubs and Cougar Town creator Bill Lawrence, who recently inked a massive deal with WBTV similar to Berlanti's.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/03/greg-berlanti-back-at-warner-bros-television-with-mega-deal/
 
I don't know why they keep trying to push this Berlanti character for a director's role. I mean, Joss Whedon only had one movie under his belt when he got picked for Avengers, but it was a sci-fi movie and he'd done lots of action stuff on TV. Then again, I don't know why Paramount chose the Justin Bieber movie's director to helm GI Joe 2. Clearly, I don't have what it takes to be a producer.
 
Maybe it's the fact that they can be controlled by the studio more easily and they've already created a good enough relationship with those studios. Oh, and there's 3D.
 
I think the article is just regurgitating old info. As far as we know, Greg is too busy and he's very weary of taking on The Flash.
 
I don't know why they keep trying to push this Berlanti character for a director's role. I mean, Joss Whedon only had one movie under his belt when he got picked for Avengers, but it was a sci-fi movie and he'd done lots of action stuff on TV. Then again, I don't know why Paramount chose the Justin Bieber movie's director to helm GI Joe 2. Clearly, I don't have what it takes to be a producer.

If WB is smart, they need to look at what Marvel is doing. Heck, they just got Shane Black to do Iron Man 3. You need real, fresh, creative talent; not yes men.

But Greg is not a great director. With Joss, he's done enough work that he can make The Avengers good; also, he's a hardcore geek. Greg could be a geek too, but that may not mean much to us.
 
I dont know why you guys are getting so worked up over this. I seem to recall Berlanti being the rumored director for GL all the way up until Campbell was announced. I'm sure he's just going to remain on the writing side of things.
 
Berlant had actually already been locked to direct Green Lantern. But he felt he wouldn't be able to live up to it and decided to remain as a producer only, so Warner hired Martin Campbell.
 
I don't know why they keep trying to push this Berlanti character for a director's role. I mean, Joss Whedon only had one movie under his belt when he got picked for Avengers, but it was a sci-fi movie and he'd done lots of action stuff on TV. Then again, I don't know why Paramount chose the Justin Bieber movie's director to helm GI Joe 2. Clearly, I don't have what it takes to be a producer.

I read a while back that WB/DC were very impressed by the pitch he gave them for Green Lantern, his whole presentation was apparently very indepth, not just a quick sit down and pitch. But they went with Martin Campbell as he was the more experienced director and GL was their first big push with a major sh apart from SM and BM.
So, since the guy was so passionate about the Dc universe, they wanted to keep him in mind for the Flash.
 
Mila is a beautiful girl. Her parents are from Ukraine, so she has nice exotic Eastern European features. However I don't think she's right for Iris, who has red hair and fair skin. I mean, it doesn't mean Mila isn't suited for the role, but she looks nothing like Iris even if she dyed her hair.
I know it's being ridiculously technical but Iris doesn't have red hair, she has brown hair.

I don't really see Mila as Iris, lovely as she's grown up to be. Not sure who I'd cast as Iris or Barry at this point, I'll have to think on that.
 
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