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[BLACKOUT]Are you sure? The Brightest Day issues don't seem to imply it and we already saw a cover where Sinestro is back to normal, not to mention it seems Sinestro is trying to find out where Parallax Disappeared to, which we now know Parallax might be where Hector Hammond is.[/BLACKOUT]

Never can be too sure with me. Half the time I'm serious, half the time it's my brain making **** up after being introduced to so many hallucinigens and other aweful things for it, and the third half of the time I'm posting **** just to see if I can troll some people.

[BLACKOUT]Haha indeed it's funny how mostly everyone (including myself) just ignored all these clues and hints. :D[/BLACKOUT]

Yeah, pretty much. Especially when you go back and read his interviews and he [blackout]denies that theres going to be Hal Jordan White Lantern cause he's been part of all the different corps, but never outright denies there being a white lantern or white entitiy. On top of this one of the Tales of the Corps issues had the lady that was retelling what was going on saying that "Sinestro was once the greatest Green Lantern of all, and will again be"[/blackout]
 
DAAAYYYM, that's whack.

But it makes perfect sense. Like rigid totalitarian rule. The Lords of Order were like that (and always in white, too).

I can see the rebellion now...

So what's the opposite of Order? Chaos! As in magic. And we know what Lantern holds THAT key! :cwink:
 
[BLACKOUT]Are you sure? The Brightest Day issues don't seem to imply it and we already saw a cover where Sinestro is back to normal, not to mention it seems Sinestro is trying to find out where Parallax Disappeared to, which we now know Parallax might be where Hector Hammond is.[/BLACKOUT]
I do not know about that, he said "it has it", so I doubt Hammod has Parallax.
[BLACKOUT]I find Sinestro being the white Lantern highly unexpected. I find it "logical" in the G.Johns mind maybe, ok, but I would not have done that at all, it seemed that Ganther or Kyle was best suited for that. In my mind. because white = peace. Not order. anyway. What a revelation! :wow: Did not see that coming AT ALL.[/BLACKOUT]
[BLACKOUT]Haha indeed it's funny how mostly everyone (including myself) just ignored all these clues and hints. :D[/BLACKOUT]
Well indeed "mostly" maybe, but I'm not sure about that. Not me anyway. Of course I can not predict what will happen, but come on, even without being super smart (in my case, being a plain big idiot), it is not that difficult to see how G.Johns plants seeds of the future in everything he writes. That is something that bugs me: There is no natural talk IMO, everyone always say what they are supposed to say. Like robots, always with a double meaning.
Luthor explaining the black and orange rings work the same way, Atrocitus predicting that the orange one will betray them all, the question Hal wanted to ask Sinestro since the beginning, Sinestro saying "I can not do it without you" to Hal, the Predator escaping and Queen Agapo talking about Carol being the ultimate Star Sapphire, etc..." Not too difficult.
 
Cover of GLC #46

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You know, I'm surprised there hasn't been more focus on the fact that Sinestro and Nekron's views differ only in degree and scope, and not in style. Sinestro was more than willing to set up a totalitarian state on Korugar and sacrifice the population's freedom. Is Nekron not doing the same thing here? By sacrificing all freedom in favor of order?
 
Pretty much yeah, making everyone equal too and whatnot. Tho i loved Sinestro's speech about the Guardians. Really this was the best issue of the event and i can't wait for the conclusion.
 
While I like the Sinestro angle, it's about time to wrap up the sparklefest. The concept is close to getting away from the creative staff. So the "white" entity is helpless (like ION). Not sure about Predator. Don't know why these entities are so weak on their own, either. Do they have souls? Or is Nekron the only soulless one? My understanding was Nekron was another dark overlord, so since when does he embody the ultimate "peace"?"

Initially the Orange light hijinks with Larfleeze and Luthor were funny, but now you see how limited and pathetic the orange light really is. How strong can a unit of one be, with no other focus? It's as pointless as it sounds.


I'll keep on my politically correct hat until the results of the 'color' war are made known. I see a 'white saves all' trope around the corner. However, with Sinestro involved there's bound to be a twist to that. And we really don't know the entities' motives. Life is just that, not good or bad.


So now we've covered the emotions, states of mind, and death/life. What's left? Why, evil and good! So...where are the entities of EVIL AND GOOD? What are their colors?

Does this mean Dr. Hurt pops up, along with the Overmonitor? See how out of control this thing is getting?

And Black Hand is an idiot...he was good looking until his own self demise into the ugly thing he is now. Jealous of beauty, bleh. Don't mess yourself up then, dimwit.

No brown, beige or gray lanterns?

Let's see, DEMONICUS is the embodiment of evil.
RAPTURE is the embodiment of good.

Let's roll with it. :awesome:
 
i can't wait for the conclusion.

I'm with you there...though probably for different reasons.

Also since Marvel & DC have a habit of doing very similar things, I hope DC takes a cue from Siege and goes the "less issues" route with their next big event...
 
Yeah, I'm definitely in favor of smaller events. I don't mind events in general, but waiting 8 months while the quality of the event and its tie-ins fluctuate wildly is just not something I'm interested in doing over and over again.
 
While I like the Sinestro angle, it's about time to wrap up the sparklefest. The concept is close to getting away from the creative staff. So the "white" entity is helpless (like ION). Not sure about Predator. Don't know why these entities are so weak on their own, either. Do they have souls? Or is Nekron the only soulless one? My understanding was Nekron was another dark overlord, so since when does he embody the ultimate "peace"?"

Nekron is a being beyond time. As in, he's been around since the Entity was around. Not to mention that they already said he really isn't a being either, more or less just the embodiment of death, much like Ion is the embodiment of Will, Parallax the embodiment of Fear, so on and so forth. What makes Nekron different from the other entities? Who knows. Maybe every living thing that has ever died has given power to Nekron and throughout all these years it was finally time for him to rise and take over?

Initially the Orange light hijinks with Larfleeze and Luthor were funny, but now you see how limited and pathetic the orange light really is. How strong can a unit of one be, with no other focus? It's as pointless as it sounds.

That's the whole point. The Ornage Lanterns are petty, greedy, and care nothing for whats going on other than their own greed. However, we've seen how strong a "unit of one" can be. He can hold off the entire GLC main cast, while having a battle of wits with Jordan underground. You try and take his Lantern and that's enough focus for Larfleeze to destroy you and steal your soul.

I'll keep on my politically correct hat until the results of the 'color' war are made known. I see a 'white saves all' trope around the corner. However, with Sinestro involved there's bound to be a twist to that. And we really don't know the entities' motives. Life is just that, not good or bad.

:whatever::whatever::whatever:
White has universally and nearly always been associated with Life while Black with Death. This isn't some social commentary on how the world works where Black People are slaves to one master and white people are constantly putting them down. If that's not what you're getting at, then my bad, but the amount of poeple who come in and go RACISM! just cause they use the colors blakc and white astonishes me. Why not cry "well no japs are scary so why would the color of fear be yellow?"


So now we've covered the emotions, states of mind, and death/life. What's left? Why, evil and good! So...where are the entities of EVIL AND GOOD? What are their colors?

The whole point of this story is that it's transcending "good and evil". Nekron isn't evil in the way that Darkseid or Joker is. He's not trying to kill out of spite, or hatred. He's destroying all of reality simply because he grows bored of it and wishes to be alone.

Does this mean Dr. Hurt pops up, along with the Overmonitor? See how out of control this thing is getting?

I hope not. Already muddled enough with how many allstars they're pulling out here, doesn't need any more high enders.


And Black Hand is an idiot...he was good looking until his own self demise into the ugly thing he is now. Jealous of beauty, bleh. Don't mess yourself up then, dimwit.

The dude was a psychopathic killer at age 13.Constantly picked on in school / abused, that kind of thing. Of course he'll see every day in another life as beautiful and death as a sweet sweet release.

No brown, beige or gray lanterns?

Let's see, DEMONICUS is the embodiment of evil.
RAPTURE is the embodiment of good.

Let's roll with it. :awesome:
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No thanks. I like the idea of the rainbow corps. I like how they made it all fit, but it's already getting to the point where it's a little silly. Hopefully when this is all said and done (Brightest Day) it'll lower the amount of corps, make them actual entities (how the Sinestro Corps was before the war of light) for fighting evil or good, and then occasionally tells stories about what happens when a group of greens encounters a rogue pack of reds or something.
 
Maybe it's just some metaphysical irony that all the entities of "life's colors" aren't really alive until someone takes control of them while Nekron, the entity of death, is "alive" all on his own.

But I thought Johns said a while ago that Black Hand either was the black entity himself or was in control of the black entity. :huh:
 
Nekron is a being beyond time. As in, he's been around since the Entity was around. Not to mention that they already said he really isn't a being either, more or less just the embodiment of death, much like Ion is the embodiment of Will, Parallax the embodiment of Fear, so on and so forth. What makes Nekron different from the other entities? Who knows. Maybe every living thing that has ever died has given power to Nekron and throughout all these years it was finally time for him to rise and take over?

Seems like there's a lot of primal entities around since the beginning. Things are getting a little cluttered by definition, IMO. Beings, entities, whatever they call themselves. Self aware sentients. Nekron has also changed his appearance (I last saw him in FATE). Now whether he's channeling primordial darkness to boost himself isn't clear. I'm wondering if the Starheart is the thief, the entity of magic.

That's the whole point. The Ornage Lanterns are petty, greedy, and care nothing for whats going on other than their own greed. However, we've seen how strong a "unit of one" can be. He can hold off the entire GLC main cast, while having a battle of wits with Jordan underground. You try and take his Lantern and that's enough focus for Larfleeze to destroy you and steal your soul.

The Orange is nowhere unless those aliens in the Vega system make the Orange a legit corps. Otherwise I don't see it surviving. Larfleeze and/or Luthor clutching one lantern is hardly the ticket to...what, exactly? Collecting everything and doing nothing with it?

:whatever::whatever::whatever:
White has universally and nearly always been associated with Life while Black with Death. This isn't some social commentary on how the world works where Black People are slaves to one master and white people are constantly putting them down. If that's not what you're getting at, then my bad, but the amount of poeple who come in and go RACISM! just cause they use the colors blakc and white astonishes me. Why not cry "well no japs are scary so why would the color of fear be yellow?"

Okay, I'm not getting into any great debate about racism. The color symbolism used is based on western culture. White is the color of death in some cultures around the world. And dead things aren't black, they lose color. No more so than avarice has anything to do with orange. Does anyone ever really see 'red' when they're angry? What does blue have to do with hope, indigo compassion? Nothing. They're devices to give substance to emotions/states of mind for the storyline. The only accurate statement regarding color in this entire rainbow sparklefest is when the Blue Lantern stated that their light burns brightest of all. This is actually true in the real universe. Blue stars are the hottest and brightest.

My comment about the white is this: there's a 'great white father' trope that dates back to the 1600s or so, regarding any non whites and whites. (Spain, Portugal, Africa, etc) It's from the days of 'civilizing' and controlling various cultures and bringing them to the 'light' of christianity. Their souls had to be saved from savagery, idol worship and chaos. Sound familiar? It should. This trope was in every tarzan movie during hollywood's golden era. It's primarily patriarchal and order based. This is Sinestro to his core! Tropes are so prevalent in all media (movies/radio/tv, etc) you'd be surprised. There's even a specific trope for the Batman family by member. Check out a really good site called Tropes.com. Very, very good. Goes by decade and subject matter. In fact, Talia Al Ghul is the Dragon Lady Snake trope.


The whole point of this story is that it's transcending "good and evil". Nekron isn't evil in the way that Darkseid or Joker is. He's not trying to kill out of spite, or hatred. He's destroying all of reality simply because he grows bored of it and wishes to be alone.

They don't transcend anything, they're part of the tapestry of the universe like the other beings. Good and evil are part of that tapestry and should be represented for accuracy. Just like life isn't good or evil, neither is death. Or emotions. They can be used in either direction, but they don't represent good or evil incarnate. So why not stick in Hurt and Overmonitor? They've jammed everyone else in there. And magic also is not represented (another part of existence). Just sayin.'


I hope not. Already muddled enough with how many allstars they're pulling out here, doesn't need any more high enders.


I agree it's getting out of control. Which is why the last issue is almost welcome at this point.
The dude was a psychopathic killer at age 13.Constantly picked on in school / abused, that kind of thing. Of course he'll see every day in another life as beautiful and death as a sweet sweet release.

Possibly. All the death absorption probably has screwed up his psyche, too.

No thanks. I like the idea of the rainbow corps. I like how they made it all fit, but it's already getting to the point where it's a little silly. Hopefully when this is all said and done (Brightest Day) it'll lower the amount of corps, make them actual entities (how the Sinestro Corps was before the war of light) for fighting evil or good, and then occasionally tells stories about what happens when a group of greens encounters a rogue pack of reds or something.[/QUOTE]

We'll have to see how this ends up. I have a feeling this white light isn't necessarily what everyone thinks it is.
 
Maybe it's just some metaphysical irony that all the entities of "life's colors" aren't really alive until someone takes control of them while Nekron, the entity of death, is "alive" all on his own.

But I thought Johns said a while ago that Black Hand either was the black entity himself or was in control of the black entity. :huh:

He did, but as you'll see from my chart....
Nekron:Black Hand
The Guardians: White Entity

And if not the Guardians, than some other being that is the anti-thesis of Nekron. Maybe God. I don't know.

It would make sense that next issue if Sinestro v. Black Hand.


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Thinking about it, it would have made more sense for all the other entities to come together to form Megazord the White Entity. Seems unbalanced that there can be the entity of white light and the entities of the splinterd light co-existing.
 
Nekron is a being beyond time. As in, he's been around since the Entity was around. Not to mention that they already said he really isn't a being either, more or less just the embodiment of death, much like Ion is the embodiment of Will, Parallax the embodiment of Fear, so on and so forth. What makes Nekron different from the other entities? Who knows. Maybe every living thing that has ever died has given power to Nekron and throughout all these years it was finally time for him to rise and take over?
No SouLeSS, Nekron is just a representation of Darkness in the universe. It is not the avatar. Black Hand is. Black Hand is like Ion or Parallax.
As I see things, Darkness was here, life arrived and to "fight back" darkness took a shape most would recognize as darkness/death. Nekron is as empty as present I think. the real "threat" is Black Hand. Now we have the counter part being White Sinestro.
Yeah, I'm definitely in favor of smaller events. I don't mind events in general, but waiting 8 months while the quality of the event and its tie-ins fluctuate wildly is just not something I'm interested in doing over and over again.
I agree with you but at the same time I'm not sure about that. I liked BN whole organization a lot more than "big" events like Final Crisis. I think BN was ok, and the useless tie-ins were in fact not so useless to me, well, BN Flash was good, but the Rogues are always good for me.
I'm all for big big events like BN if it touches all the DC universe, like it is the case here. Any other event should be shorter, yes.
 
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March 8, 2010 -
Green Lantern Corps #46
Written by: Pete Tomasi
Art by: Patrick Gleason
Price: $2.99
Release Date: March 10, 2010

Blackest Night comes to its epic and stunning conclusion in this over-sized issue as the Green Lantern Corps descends on Earth to make their final stand against Nekron and the Black Lanterns!

- DC Comics
 
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