Age of Ultron The Official Hulkbuster!! Thread

[docdoc]

So excited!!! Hulkbuster will be featured in Avengers: Age of Ultron without a doubt. I wonder how things will play out this time, like what will lead to yet another internal conflict among The Avengers themselves? Some suggest the suit is controlled by Ultron?

And I love how we can see the Mark 38 from Iron Man 3 as an early development/testing phase of this Hulkbuster in Avengers 2.

 

[Mjölnir]

Feels like it's the most logical if the suit gets out of control due to Ultron. There shouldn't be that much need for the suit when they have Thor there.

 

[DaddlerTheDalek]

Ultron... Scarlett Witch... Vision... anf now the Hulkbuster!
Everything I wanted in a Avengers Sequel!!

 

[johnrain]

Wouldn't Banner be upset at Stark for creating such a thing?

 

[DaddlerTheDalek]

Wouldn't Banner be upset at Stark for creating such a thing?

Good Question...

 

[cherokeesam]

Wouldn't Banner be upset at Stark for creating such a thing?

Who's to say Tony creates it?
Yeah, he *probably* does, and the post-credit scene from TIH hinted at that eventual clash; but I think there's a high likelihood that a lot of AOU's plot will revolve around Ultron hacking and taking control of Tony Stark's creations, including JARVIS and all of his armors.

Could be that Ultron creates the Hulkbuster on his own, evolving it from some of Tony's earlier armors (including the Mk. 39 from IM3).

 

[NHawk19]

Or who says Bruce doesn't help build it?

Bruce knows better than anyone what "the other guy" is capable of when he's unleashed. He broke well Harlem, and did try to end it all himself once.

He may have helped Tony build it as a precaution in case he ever got so enraged or out of control that extreme measures had to be taken.

 

[hoy-small-fry]

Awwww yeah

As an added bonus, this confirms Iron Man (rather than Tony Stark) is in Ultron in some capacity

 

[ares834]

Or who says Bruce doesn't help build it?

Bruce knows better than anyone what "the other guy" is capable of when he's unleashed. He broke well Harlem, and did try to end it all himself once.

He may have helped Tony build it as a precaution in case he ever got so enraged or out of control that extreme measures had to be taken.

Makes perfect sense to me. I'd love to see this idea explored in the films.

 

[Tony Stark]

They left the last film with this seed planted that not everyone was happy with the Avengers, in fact some were blaming them for what happened. We are going to get Major Talbot played by Adrian Pasdar in AoS, so I'm sure he and Ross still have it out for the Hulk and have influence.

It would make sense that Tony would create a fail safe, or even as you say have Bruce help him with a fail safe to keep Hulk from creating too much collateral damage. Tony if anything is always worried about self image, and he's a control freak, it would make sense for him to make sure things were kept in check.

 

[NickNitro]

Wouldn't Banner be upset at Stark for creating such a thing?

Or who says Bruce doesn't help build it?

Bruce knows better than anyone what "the other guy" is capable of when he's unleashed. He broke well Harlem, and did try to end it all himself once.

He may have helped Tony build it as a precaution in case he ever got so enraged or out of control that extreme measures had to be taken.

I like this theory. Banner knows more than anyone how uncontrollable he is when he's The Hulk. Even if he did show some sense of comradery during The Avengers he still may be extremely afraid for the lives of his companions now that he is a constant part of the team.

 

[CoherentChaos]

If Bruce is snapping and going on a rampage, then I really hope the context is reasonable. I realize Hulk is volatile, but his last portrayal was that of a hero, that's capable of working alongside others. Even when he freaked out aboard the Helicarrier, he refrained from turning Widow into a smear on the wall, and then Thor intervened and reignited his aggression.

Hulk is a misunderstood monster, and so I'm hoping if Tony feels like he needs to bring out the big gun, it's because of a huge misunderstanding.

Or.. maybe Whedon will pull a huge irony card and have Tony demonstrating the armor (surely it can have other applications, like how Igor was for heavy lifting), but Ultron hacks it and turns it basically into an ED 209, fully ready to slaughter civilians with no distinction between friend and foe. Bruce gets his '10 seconds to comply', but instead ends up being the only one capable of stopping the malfunctioning machine.

 

[metaphysician]

I think I'm going to go with the following theories:

1. Tony *did* build the Hulkbuster armor, though the intent was probably less "The Hulk is a horrible threat and I need a weapon to take him out" and more "In case the Hulk gets out of control, I need an armor that can let me occupy his attention until he cools off"

2. Its not the Hulk that gets out of control, but the *Hulkbuster*, via Ultron hacking.

 

[Hulk]

This Hulk vs hulkbuster pic made my day!!

 

[cherokeesam]

I think I'm going to go with the following theories:

1. Tony *did* build the Hulkbuster armor, though the intent was probably less "The Hulk is a horrible threat and I need a weapon to take him out" and more "In case the Hulk gets out of control, I need an armor that can let me occupy his attention until he cools off"

2. Its not the Hulk that gets out of control, but the *Hulkbuster*, via Ultron hacking.

Yeah, I'm liking a combination of the theories that we're putting together in this thread. Bruce and Tony work together to create the armor as a failsafe against a future Hulk-out, but then Ultron hacks into Tony's armor(s), and Bruce winds up having to stop the Hulkbuster from rampaging instead of vice versa.

 

[Hulk]

Yeah, I'm liking a combination of the theories that we're putting together in this thread. Bruce and Tony work together to create the armor as a failsafe against a future Hulk-out, but then Ultron hacks into Tony's armor(s), and Bruce winds up having to stop the Hulkbuster from rampaging instead of vice versa.

That's what I think it'll happen.

 

[afan]

Makes sense... Ultron is AI first and foremost, and as such takes possession of the HulkBuster...and it's up to the Hulk to do the Busting!..."Dr Banner, now would be another good time for you to get angry."

As I see it "AVENGERS" Hulk works this way....Banner still involuntarily transforms due to uncontrolled stimulus(on the Heli-Carrier), but he can also transform at will. Once Hulked he can exist on two levels relatively calm and somewhat rational or lost in a mindless rage. The mindless rage occurrs when the threat to Hulk is imminenet and very powerful, a trasformation due to uncontrolled stimulus also brings forth an already enraged Hulk. A transformation at will results in the calmer state until a threat is faced. The rage is always focussed entirely on the threat, and once the threat is removed the calm state quickly returns......and once all is quiet and peaceful, Banner returns. Given this we can still get our cake and eat it to.....an out of control rage driven Hulk while he battles the HulkBuster(perhaps under Ultron's control) suit.

BTW , I hope during the fight he saves a puppy.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Yeah, I'm liking a combination of the theories that we're putting together in this thread. Bruce and Tony work together to create the armor as a failsafe against a future Hulk-out, but then Ultron hacks into Tony's armor(s), and Bruce winds up having to stop the Hulkbuster from rampaging instead of vice versa.

I really think it'll be close to this

 

[Mr. Dent]

It's too early in the movie for Ultron to hack the armor. It's more likely that Scarlet Witch or Strucker (with Loki's staff) is controlling Banner/Hulk's mind and causing him to rage out.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Hmmm I kinda hope not.

 

[NickNitro]

What if the first thing Ultron does as its act of violence against the Avengers is take control of Tony's Hulkbuster. Then when that potentially fails (Hulk smashes the HulkBuster uniform) Ultron escapes, goes into hiding and makes duplicates of itself to come back at The Avengers in full force.

 

[Kirmit]

What if Ultron starts off as a virus, infecting the armours AI before creating his own body.

 

[Rorschach2012]

What if Ultron takes over the Hulkbuster armor, and tries to turn Hulk against Tony by exposing how Tony created armor specifically to take down Hulk?

 

[cherokeesam]

It's too early in the movie for Ultron to hack the armor. It's more likely that Scarlet Witch or Strucker (with Loki's staff) is controlling Banner/Hulk's mind and causing him to rage out.

It's not too early in the movie if it's in media res. (Plus, nobody has independently verified that the Jo-burg shoots are supposed to be the beginning of the film.) Remember, Joss originally filmed Avengers 1 to start in media res --- actually, *after* the Battle of Manhattan, with the WSC grilling Maria Hill about events we hadn't seen yet. So we know Joss likes that conceit, and might open Avengers 2 with the war against Ultron already on, then use flashbacks to bring the audience up to speed.

 

[Mr. Dent]

Again, unless they literally create Ultron in the first 5-10 minutes of the film and somehow have that play into the Avengers fighting Strucker/Scarlet Witch/Quicksilver, Ultron should not have anything to do with that Hulkbuster scene.