Sequels The Official Kraven in Spider-Man 4 thread

[Kahoot]

Yeah, Batman Begins was terrible.

Exception to every rule...

 

[shogunrua]

Kraven would be nice on a SP movie, and the whole "urban jungle" it could bring to the movie might be cool on screen. The way I would see him, would be a mix between his comic costume and a "crocodile dundee"-like costume, maybe with some patterns on his suit coming from his comic suit, just an idea.

 

[faceplant]

kraven is my all time favorite spidey villain, but it wouldn't make sense to do a movie with him and the lizard. Kraven and chameleon is the movie, if you read the comics you know why.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

kraven is my all time favorite spidey villain, but it wouldn't make sense to do a movie with him and the lizard. Kraven and chameleon is the movie, if you read the comics you know why.

well Chameleon was a half brother to Kraven in the Comics but I still don't think Chameleon should be with Kraven in a Spidey Film. Kraven and the Lizard make more sense because Kraven hunts animals and He could consider the Lizard an animal and kill him to add to his defeated animals collection.

 

[faceplant]

well Chameleon was a half brother to Kraven in the Comics but I still don't think Chameleon should be with Kraven in a Spidey Film. Kraven and the Lizard make more sense because Kraven hunts animals and He could consider the Lizard an animal and kill him to add to his defeated animals collection.

kraven and the lizard makes no sense to me. why would spidey have a problem with kraven if he were trying to capture the lizard? kraven would only work w/ the chameleon. the family tension and resentment, the fact that the only reason chameleon contacted kraven again was to team up against spidey, etc....it all makes for great cinematic drama. just throwing kraven in to hunt the lizard sounds kind of bland to me.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

kraven and the lizard makes no sense to me. why would spidey have a problem with kraven if he were trying to capture the lizard? kraven would only work w/ the chameleon. the family tension and resentment, the fact that the only reason chameleon contacted kraven again was to team up against spidey, etc....it all makes for great cinematic drama. just throwing kraven in to hunt the lizard sounds kind of bland to me.

Once Kraven tries to hunt The Lizard Spidey can try to protect the Lizard and they get in a fight. either that or have Kraven wanting to Hunt Spidey so then it turns into, Spidey vs. the Lizard vs. Kraven. Either is fine with me.

 

[Spider-Fan]

kraven and the lizard makes no sense to me. why would spidey have a problem with kraven if he were trying to capture the lizard? kraven would only work w/ the chameleon. the family tension and resentment, the fact that the only reason chameleon contacted kraven again was to team up against spidey, etc....it all makes for great cinematic drama. just throwing kraven in to hunt the lizard sounds kind of bland to me.

Connors is the Lizard...of course he wouldn't want Kraven to catch/kill him.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Connors is the Lizard...of course he wouldn't want Kraven to catch/kill him.

And that is my reason why I think Spidey should be protecting the Lizard from Kraven. It would make for not only a great Storyline but a great battle as well!

 

[Spider-Fan]

And that is my reason why I think Spidey should be protecting the Lizard from Kraven. It would make for not only a great Storyline but a great battle as well!

I agree 100%.

Lizard and Kraven makes a ton of sense, and could make a great climax.

 

[faceplant]

ugh, you two want to butcher my man kraven...as a HUGE kraven fan i must say your ideas don't do him justice. you're just throwing him in there w/ his only purpose being hunting the lizard? There is much much more to him that merits a better story line.

 

[chaseter]

I love the idea of Lizard and Kraven. Lizard is a real threat but Spider-Man knows that it is his mentor Connors behind the scales and he doesn't want to hurt him but find a way to cure him. Kraven is out for the kill and warns Spider-Man not to get in his way. Spider-Man must fight and protect Lizard from harming others and being harmed by Kraven. Perfect storyline...

 

[Sebastos]

^ Agreed. They should be the villains for the fourth.

 

[Spiderine]

kraven and the lizard makes no sense to me. why would spidey have a problem with kraven if he were trying to capture the lizard? kraven would only work w/ the chameleon. the family tension and resentment, the fact that the only reason chameleon contacted kraven again was to team up against spidey, etc....it all makes for great cinematic drama. just throwing kraven in to hunt the lizard sounds kind of bland to me.

Why would Spiderman want Kraven to hunt and kill his friend Dr. Connors....think about it.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I love the idea of Lizard and Kraven. Lizard is a real threat but Spider-Man knows that it is his mentor Connors behind the scales and he doesn't want to hurt him but find a way to cure him. Kraven is out for the kill and warns Spider-Man not to get in his way. Spider-Man must fight and protect Lizard from harming others and being harmed by Kraven. Perfect storyline...

Agreed. I'm sure Sam would love that idea!

 

[Spider-Vader]

I say yes. Though there's way too many villians to put in 3 movies. Rami totally screwed up putting only 1 villian in the first 2 movies.

Here's all the villians still needed:
Lizard
Kraven
Scorpion
Vulture
Mysterio
Shocker
Electro
Rhino
Carnage

 

[Green Goblin 1964]

I say yes. Though there's way too many villians to put in 3 movies. Rami totally screwed up putting only 1 villian in the first 2 movies.

Here's all the villians still needed:
Lizard
Kraven
Scorpion
Vulture
Mysterio
Shocker
Electro
Rhino
Carnage

Lizard
Kraven
Mysterio
Electro
Vulture


The others are useless and not worth being in the movies IMO.

 

[venom892]

I say yes. Though there's way too many villians to put in 3 movies. Rami totally screwed up putting only 1 villian in the first 2 movies.

Here's all the villians still needed:
Lizard
Kraven
Scorpion
Vulture
Mysterio
Shocker
Electro
Rhino
Carnage

I believe the opposite rami completely screwed up trying to do 3 enemies in one film.The first two are gold.Anyways as I've said The Kraven/Lizard Combo is perfect.They can adapt certain aspects from kraven's last hunt replacing Vermin with Lizard.

 

[KangConquers]

Double post...sorry.

 

[KangConquers]

I believe the opposite rami completely screwed up trying to do 3 enemies in one film.The first two are gold.Anyways as I've said The Kraven/Lizard Combo is perfect.They can adapt certain aspects from kraven's last hunt replacing Vermin with Lizard.

They could also have it be revealed that Kraven has cancer, instead of having him commit suicide, thus the reason why it's his last hunt.

Then they could release the unrated version where he does commit suicide (A'la Last Hunt.)

 

[KangConquers]

well Chameleon was a half brother to Kraven in the Comics but I still don't think Chameleon should be with Kraven in a Spidey Film. Kraven and the Lizard make more sense because Kraven hunts animals and He could consider the Lizard an animal and kill him to add to his defeated animals collection.

Chameleon should be in the next movie (SM5) after Kraven dies, tracking down Spidey for Kraven's death. He could have someone like Electro as his hired thug who does all the physical damage, while Chameleon does the psychological damage to Parker.

It could also turn out that Chameleon killed Peter's Parents (instead of the Red Skull.)

 

[venom892]

I like that idea.t:

 

[chaseter]

I say yes. Though there's way too many villians to put in 3 movies. Rami totally screwed up putting only 1 villian in the first 2 movies.

Here's all the villians still needed:
Lizard
Kraven
Scorpion
Vulture
Mysterio
Shocker
Electro
Rhino
Carnage

Carnage is a hack, Vulture IMO would be lame, Rhino is useless and so is Shocker. Shocker could never be a main villian. Lizard, Kraven, Scorpion, Electro, and Mysterio are the only ones left I want to see. The rest can stay in cartoon form or on paper.

 

[chaseter]

Chameleon should be in the next movie (SM5) after Kraven dies, tracking down Spidey for Kraven's death. He could have someone like Electro as his hired thug who does all the physical damage, while Chameleon does the psychological damage to Parker.

It could also turn out that Chameleon killed Peter's Parents (instead of the Red Skull.)

I think we have had enough of retconning Peter's family deaths. I highly doubt if they will ever take Peter's parents more than a mention or memory. Aunt May's death is imminent and will probably be in 4 or 5.

 

[Spiderine]

Chameleon should be in the next movie (SM5) after Kraven dies, tracking down Spidey for Kraven's death. He could have someone like Electro as his hired thug who does all the physical damage, while Chameleon does the psychological damage to Parker.

It could also turn out that Chameleon killed Peter's Parents (instead of the Red Skull.)

Oh God no.

 

[Flash-er]

I figured someone would've made a post about this and yes, Kraven's Last Hunt would be the only real Kraven story to tell. Give him more of tactical look (something like New GG's, but ditch the gadgets. Kraven's a hunting purist). And they'd have to lose the suicide thing I think... It's too dark for the SM movies demographic. So here's what I see and someone already hit on it a lot...

Conners becomes Lizard. A giant croc? Natural draw for Kraven. He'd hunt Lizard, SM would get involved. Kraven would realize that Lizard would be nothing compared to hunting SM. Goes after him, beats him, takes his front symbol as a trophy (I think he'd respect the mask, besides to take down an icon is legendary. To take down just a man, no matter how powerful... that's just common), buries him(maybe, I think that'd still be in PG 13 range), then goes after Lizard. While Kraven's hunting, SM digs his way out, and the chase is on. SM finds them, but as he approaches, each lands a killing blow. Conners doesn't really die. Kraven on the other hand, sees SM as he's dying and laughs at the irony that his greatest hunt was one that he'll never finish.