The Official Mighty Avengers Thread

Slott's Farewell to “Mighty Avengers”

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CBR: Dan, you began your run on “Mighty Avengers” a year-and-a-half ago when you brought together Hank Pym, Hercules, U.S. Agent, Quicksilver, Amadeus Cho, the female robot Jocasta, and the Young Avengers Stature and Vision to form the Mighty Avengers. How does it feel now that book is about to come to an end?

DAN SLOTT: “Mighty Avengers” has been a very strange book. In the beginning, I was trying to put together the most Avengers-like team I could from all the available pieces in the Marvel Universe. It was very hard to find and assemble those. It's like someone says, “You get to write the Avengers” and in your heart of hearts you think, “That's great. I'll have Hawkeye and Wonder Man and Beast.” Then you find out almost all of those guys are taken. So that kind of became part of the fun of the book. I really associated with Hank as the leader of the team, that’s why, throughout the book, he’s constantly saying things like, “This is the best team that I could put together.”



And I think it's a credit to Khoi, the rest of the team and myself that we kept the book going with the cast we had: Hank Pym, Jocasta, and two Young Avengers whose stories we couldn't move along too much because Allan Heinberg had stuff that he wanted to do with them in “ Avengers: The Children's Crusade.” So it was a very bizarre cast to manipulate and move around. I'm very proud that we kept this book in the top 30s without guys like Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Wolverine, and Spider-Man.


You're ready to give your cast a hell of a send off in issue #36, especially Hank Pym. Much of your work on “Mighty” has been about the redemption of Hank Pym as he's worked through a lot of issues from his past. How does Hank feel now that he's being forced to confront his greatest mistake, Ultron?

This story isn't about Hank taking on his mistake. It's more about Ultron assuming the role of Hank's son. He's the heir apparent. He wants to take over all of Hank's new great achievements. He's attempting to seize control of the Infinite Avengers Mansion, which we now know is Hank's attempt to bring back Janet Van Dyne, the original Wasp. Ultron is out to corrupt that for his own nefarious purposes.

Does Ultron have an Oedipus Complex?

His relationship with Hank is very Oedipal, especially when you add Jocasta and her history with both characters into the mix. That whole family tree it's just a wonderful and entertaining mess.

Speaking of Infinite Avengers Mansion, in “Mighty Avengers” #35 you reveal that the Mansion exists in a realm known as Underspace. What else you can tell us about this dimension?

We know what Underspace is, it's the space below the Microverse. Dimension-wise, it's the lowest spot you can reach in the Marvel Universe. Overspace, where Eternity manifests, is the highest spot. So it's a sister dimension to Overspace and through it you can reach any spot in the Marvel U if you fashion a door for it.

The rule governing travel through Underspace was going to be revealed but I believe it ended up on the cutting room floor because we didn't want to give away the reveal that Janet was trapped in it. That rule was you could only use Underspace to travel to places that Janet had been to -- though you could establish another door to it once you’d been there. Does that make sense? So there are limitations even though we didn't quite tell everybody. Hank has been exploring this other dimension with the ultimate goal of restoring Janet, who was transported here at the end of “Secret Invasion.”

The other Mighty Avengers have also been featured recently in Jeff Parker's “Thunderbolts” series, where they've been trying to keep the title characters from stealing one of Asgard's most powerful weapons. Will their “Siege” tie-in adventure continue in “Mighty” #36?

Definitely. I think one of the fun things is looking at just how well Jeff and I have coordinated these stories. It fits together like a nice little puzzle, which is neat. There's some really tight back-and-forth going on here between what's going on with the Thunderbolts and the Mighty Avengers, who now have just gone, “Screw you, Hank Pym! We're going off to Asgard.”

The stories in both books are totally independent, but at the same time if you read both of them it fleshes out to this bigger, richer story, which I think is pretty cool too. Also, by the time you get to the end of “Mighty Avengers” #36, you'll see tie-ins to “Siege” #4. Because of the way books are coming out, there may be a spoiler for something that happens in “Siege” #4 in “Mighty” #36. So a slight heads-up about that. It doesn't tell you how “Siege” ends, but there is a beat in “Siege” #4 that you will see. It does not spoil the final conflict, though.

It's easy to see what Hank has to offer the next generation of Avengers, but what do you think Quicksilver has to offer the students of “Avengers Academy?”

In a kind of Goofus and Gallant way, Pietro has probably seen all the worst things that can happen to an Avenger [laughs]. Though he was lovingly raised by gypsies in the shadows of Mount Wundagore, he was trained by the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants under Magneto. Here's somebody who had a pretty nasty taskmaster when it comes to training a super powered kid.
On the flip side, he was also someone who, by becoming a member of the Avengers, was given a second chance and trained by Captain America. So between Magneto and Cap, that’s a pretty broad range of experience. If there are any troubled kids in Avengers Academy, Quicksilver is someone who may have a sympathetic ear for them.

A bigger question is why would Pietro want to be a teacher in the first place? He's not exactly known for his patience and understanding.

Look at the arc that Quicksilver has had since coming into “Mighty Avengers.” First he's used by Cthon. Then, when he comes out of it, he thinks his sister is back and he's constantly using the Mighty Avengers as a way to try and find his sister. That's forcing him to run these paces and be an Avenger again. Then, when he has his falling out in #34 and he's left to his own devices, he thinks, “I was doing good! I had purpose as an Avenger. This is what I should be doing.” And I think we've got a very nice beat in issue #35 with him going to join his teammates in Asgard and he's thinking, “I'm going to the fight. The Avengers need me. Once an Avenger always an Avenger.”

This is a character who has always wanted to be part of a family and now, with the Scarlet Witch gone and his daughter distanced from him, he's rudderless. What family does he have outside of Magneto? The Avengers. So I think there's a lot of fun stuff involving Pietro for Christos to play with in “Avengers Academy.”

Another thing to think about: Quicksilver and Hank Pym will be working together at Avengers Academy, but right now everyone he’s got some pretty bad feelings about Hank. So something has got to change for that to happen.

Will any other elements of “Mighty Avengers” be carried over to “Avengers Academy?”

Yes, you see Hank and Quicksilver along with some other surprises. They'll be interacting with the new Avengers Academy characters and some classic Marvel characters like Tigra, Justice and Speedball. This is all new, though. This isn't “Avengers: The Initiative.” This is Chris Gage doing his own thing, which is awesome. I can't wait to read that book!
This is a golden time to be an “Avengers” fan. In addition to “Avengers Academy,” you have these two powerhouse books by Brian Michael Bendis. “Avengers” and “New Avengers” are going to be must-reads! Out of all the Heroic Age titles, I think the book I'm most excited for is “Secret Avengers.” It’s gonna be brilliant! It's got War Machine and Moon Knight and Steve Rogers. Plus, it's from Ed Brubaker and Mike Deodato. All the creative teams on all these books are amazing. I also think of “Thunderbolts” now as an Avengers book because of the upcoming Luke Cage involvement. So you have these very strong Avengers titles coming out and it's going to be pretty darn cool.
Looking back, what are you most proud of and what did you most enjoy about your “Mighty Avengers” run?

I really enjoyed working with such a strong team of artists. It was a real pleasure to work with Khoi and I'm expecting him to move on to bigger things now that people have seen what he can do with these “scrappy Avengers.” Rafa Sandoval, Stephen Segovia, Sean Chen and Neil Edwards did some stunning work for us as well. It was fun working with Khoi and this great big mix of creators. I'm going to miss that.

Also, I loved playing in the big tapestry of the Marvel Universe. Once we got past the first arc and our cast was together I think we had some fun stuff in there. I loved doing the two-part FF/Avengers fight. And the Reed Richards-Hank Pym duel was a blast to write. I had a great time with all of the Avengers coming together to face off against the Unspoken. I especially loved the scene with Clint and Cassie on the arrow. Plus, the recent Hank versus Norman battle for the Cosmic Cube was a hoot. I got to have so much fun on this book, especially once we brought in the big toys.
I'm also very proud of where we moved the bar on the character of Hank Pym. We didn't run away from his craziness.

We embraced it and at the same time, hopefully, we elevated him to where people go, “Wow. I never thought of Hank Pym like that.” He's really carried the burden of the Ultron screw up, his bad break up and abusiveness towards Janet, and the fallout from that. So many people have tried to run from that and I think we embraced it in a weird way. We knew he was a strange, quirky character. And I loved the Scientist Supreme bit that has caused so much, as my grandma would say, “tsuris” in the online community. It was a cool moment for me—Eternity, himself smacking Hank Pym around and then offering him a hand up. Seriously, what says Hank Pym more than the rest of the Universe kicking him when he’s down? That is my favorite sequence in the whole run. I hope people feel that with this book, I've told the story of Hank Pym finding a place for himself an interesting place for himself in the Marvel U and that he can move on to new exciting places from here. This is one of the first books in a long time where you had to have Hank stand on his own and I think that was great for the character. He was able to get the kind of focus that he wouldn't have if you had an Iron Man or a Cap or somebody else on the team to steal focus from him. So I think that was cool. Basically, I had a good 16 months telling the story of Hank Pym and his team.

With “Mighty Avengers” coming to an end, what's next for Dan Slott? Any upcoming projects that you can hint, tease, or talk about?

I'll have a story in all four issues of the upcoming “Age of Heroes” anthology, but I'm telling very, very, very short stories. These are one-pagers, modern day versions of Hostess Fruit Pie ads [laughs]. You're getting a six-to-nine-panel story on one page, but important things will happen in these stories. They'll have some things to say about this new Heroic Age. I've also got a one-shot coming up. I believe it will hit October, and it should be announced very soon.

So I'm off the grid for a little bit, but that doesn't mean I'm not working. In fact I think I’m working harder than ever now! The next step for me is huge, probably my biggest challenge in comics to date! There’ll probably be announcement about it around the time of [Comic-Con International in] San Diego. And when you hear about it, then you’ll know why I’m so pumped for this!
 
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He already seems to be there to me. "Once an Avenger..." and all. What else is he really gonna do at this point, anyway? He was just randomly checking Transia to see if Wanda might be there in this issue. Teaching new heroes is a lot more productive than just crisscrossing the globe searching at random for his sister, plus the guilt of his lie still weighs on him and I think deep down he wants to atone for it.

Yeah, Slott touches on that in his interview about the "once an Avenger" thing. The problem is working at the Academy isn't being a front line Avenger; it's staying still and telling kids what to hit or not hit. Although it will be interesting to see what Pietro brings to it. Will he be a hypocrite and tell young heroes not to do the things he does/did/is still doing? Or is he going to be that one hip counselor who tells you stuff like how to hide the empty beer bottles after keggers, because he's been there?

First thing's first, it's nice to see Jocasta/Jan slap Hank around for once.

Second, Hank wants his love Jocasta to be human and all he changes are her limbs? Dude, if he's gonna have carnal relations with her, why exclude the chest and babymaker? The best Hank is gonna get is an hj...

To be fair, keeping her head/chest metallic for now at least affords her enhanced durability from attack. If she was totally "flesh", she could be blasted apart like anyone else.

I've really enjoyed Hank's character since he's been back from SI. I'm way excited for Avengers Academy. Speedball (yes he's back!), Justice (reunited with Speedball) Tigra, Hank, and Quicksilver. Plus I hear that Finesse has the photographic reflexes ability which is one of my favorite abilities of all time. So I'm pretty stoked.

Yeah, it does look pretty good. I have liked what Slott has done with Pym since SI about 80%. There are those 20% times where I thought Slott pushed things a little too far to get a laugh or a shocker or a quirky panel/page, to the point where Pym came across as weird for weirdness sake. But overall I liked the idea of Pym not trying to atone for his weirdness or bottle it or deny it, but embracing it and letting his ideas run wild, which has produced some good gadgets and some clever strategies. I am looking forward to this conclusion.

Slott's next project (besides ASM work) sounds pretty big. Will it be the next Marvel event mini? Another AVENGERS book for him? THE THING vol. 3? :)
 
Slott answered your question about Pietro's reasons for teaching at the academy in that interview NightBeetle and runawayboulder posted. His sister's MIA, his daughter hates him, and his ex-wife is remarried. The Avengers and Magneto are his only family at this point, and family is important enough to him that he decides to stick with the Avengers (since Magneto's been a complete a**hole to him for his entire life). He feels like he has a purpose with the Avengers, as opposed to just bumming around feeling lonely on his own.
 
Well there's X-Factor too but we'll just ignore that...
 
He burnt some bridges with X-Factor too. The Avengers are really the only people that will have him.
 
X-Factor's not really "his" X-Factor anymore, either. Are Jamie and Siryn even that fond of him these days?
 
Slott answered your question about Pietro's reasons for teaching at the academy in that interview NightBeetle and runawayboulder posted. His sister's MIA, his daughter hates him, and his ex-wife is remarried. The Avengers and Magneto are his only family at this point, and family is important enough to him that he decides to stick with the Avengers (since Magneto's been a complete a**hole to him for his entire life). He feels like he has a purpose with the Avengers, as opposed to just bumming around feeling lonely on his own.
It explains why he sticks with the Avengers, not teach at the Academy. Im all for him staying with the team but I cant see him teaching. Why would he do that over fighting alongside the team?
 
Hank Pym, maybe? Hank offered him a second chance when he needed it most, so it's Hank's Avengers that he sticks with. If Hank goes to teach at the academy, Pietro goes too.

Gage'll probably have a better explanation waiting for us in the first arc of AA, though.
 
X-Factor's not really "his" X-Factor anymore, either. Are Jamie and Siryn even that fond of him these days?

Don't forget Strong Guy. And has anyone ever been fond of him, really? Crystal probably only @#$%ed him because of the whole "females like to screw jerks" thing. :hehe:
 
Heh, he is quite a "bad boy," at least as far as emotional availability goes. Besides, we all know he really wants to be f***ing Wanda. :csad:
 
I like what Slott did with Pym despite the weird Jocasta stuff and the fact I'm pretty sure this is like the third or fourth time a writer thinks Pym needs a redemption storyline.

I have a soft spot for Pym having read west coast avengers and liking characters that are sort of underdogs so I was glad to see the characater get some attention development.

I don't think I will pick up Avengers Academy though because I don't care about reading any Youth Avengers who are not the Young Avengers.
 
Slott answered your question about Pietro's reasons for teaching at the academy in that interview NightBeetle and runawayboulder posted. His sister's MIA, his daughter hates him, and his ex-wife is remarried. The Avengers and Magneto are his only family at this point, and family is important enough to him that he decides to stick with the Avengers (since Magneto's been a complete a**hole to him for his entire life). He feels like he has a purpose with the Avengers, as opposed to just bumming around feeling lonely on his own.

Wow, it must be a "Heroic Age"...here a super hero has a perfectly valid excuse to be emo, brooding, and a loner, and ISN'T taking it. What do they think this is? 1980? ;)

Now someone needs to go tell DC. Has Red Arrow at least put a band aid on his stump? Because in every cover I see him on, it is still bleeding. He'll get an infection that way. :p
 
Holy ****. Did Marvel seriously just spoil SIEGE for us?! WOW!! :cmad:
 
For real, that was quite a spoiler. And Siege #4 is still 2 goddamn weeks away. :facepalm:
 
SIEGE has been great, I'd consider it one of the recent best "events" but not when they can get 4 lousy issues out on time. F Coipel.
 
And of all the places, they spoil it in Mighty Avengers?! Hell, that should AT LEAST be in a Thor or New Avengers comic!
 
It wasn't an intentional spoiler or anything. Siege #4 was already supposed to have been out by now. :o
 
I'm glad that it happened in MA's finale. Slott got the shaft with the Heroic Age relaunch as far as I'm concerned.
 

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