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Well, mind you, I really liked (heck, maybe even loved) POTC 2, but it was basically an extended trailer for POTC 3...so POTC 3 better be awesome.

I don't agree with that statment, the correct one is more like, a sign of things to come. It was really pt. 1 of a 2 part movie, or maybe we will come to find out, pt 2 of a 3 pt movie, but Curse stands on its own nicely.

DMC left a lot of threads untied, but to say it is mearly a trailer diminishes what they actually did. The problem with DMC is the fact that there is no one accurate review on the film, even those who gave it a positive review, and reviewed it as pt 1 of a 2 part movie, still have yet to give an accurate review. Once AWE is out, and we can see how the stories, and character's arc's wrap up, then DMC can finally be given its proper grade
 
AWE article in the new Starlog magazine....

Pirates of the Caribbean At World’s End
by Bill Warren
Starlog Issue #356
June 2007

Producer Jerry Bruckheimer reveals a few secrets of the new swashbuckling fantasy adventure.

Jerry Bruckheimer has a message for STARLOG readers: “I want to thank them so much for their support and the fact that they love movies as much as we do. That’s the fun of it.”

Bruckheimer was born in Detroit, and received a degree in Psychology from the University of Arizona. He began his career at an advertising agency, but was always interested in films. His first movie in a producing capacity was The Culpepper Cattle Company in 1972. Such memorable films as Farewell, My Lovely (1975), American Gigolo (1980), and Thief (1981) followed. Then, in 1983, he joined forces with Don Simpson, and the pair quickly became one of the hottest producing teams in Hollywood.

Their hits included Flashdance, the first two Beverly Hills Cops, Top Gun, Days of Thunder, Bad Boys and Crimson Tide, among others. Their last film together was The Rock (1996), released the year Simpson died. Bruckheimer soldiered on, turning out a wide range of movies including Armageddon (which he discussed in STARLOG #253), Con Air, Pearl Harbor, Black Hawk Down, National Treasure and Déjà Vu.

Bruckheimer branched out into television in 1997 with Soldier of Fortune, Inc., and scored hits with the three CSI series as well as Without a Trace and Cold Case. But rarely has Bruckheimer scored as hugely as he did with Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl and its sequel Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man’s Chest—a follow-up that did even better at the box office than the original. And now, Bruckheimer gives eager audiences the third entry in the swashbuckling saga, Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End (which launches May 25).

Surprisingly, when the producer was first approached by Chairman of the Walt Disney Studios Richard Cook to turn the classic Disneyland ride Pirates of the Caribbean into a movie, it didn’t sound that promising. “I remembered what happened to the Country Bears,” recalls Bruckheimer of the film flop based on that Disney attraction. “And I thought, ‘Boy, there goes my career!’”

Instead, Pirates of the Caribbean pulled in a treasure trove of money during summer 2003, earning more than $300 million in the U.S. alone and landing star Johnny Depp an Oscar nomination. Dead Man’s Chest was an even bigger success, topping the 2006 charts with its 400 million-plus box office returns. Obviously, expectations are high for At World’s End, but Bruckheimer didn’t get where he is by spilling the beans. So he’s pretty cagey about revealing too much about the latest Pirates picture.

“First of all, it’s a quest to bring Captain Jack Sparrow back,” Bruckheimer begins. “He was eaten by the Kraken, and was taken to Davy Jones’ Locker. Now, he has to get out, and the others go on a journey to find him.”

But where do they have to go? The trailers show pirate ships of many types, plus an alarming shot of an entire sea pouring off the edge—of what? Ancients thought the Earth was wide and flat, and that the seas poured away in gigantic waterfalls, cascading down into eternity. Bruckheimer allows that this edge-of-the world stuff has something to do with Davy Jones’ Locker, which was mentioned but never seen in the second film.

When asked if the rescue mission includes sailing to the Far East-Asian pirates are seen in the trailer, and Chow Yun-Fat costars in the sequel—he cautiously comments. “I didn’t say that. You said that. But they do go to the Far East.” So they somehow go to Asia—in ships—without actually sailing there? Neat trick.

Cutthroat Casts

Virtually the entire cast from Dead Man’s Chest is on deck for At World’s End: Orlando Bloom as Will Turner, Keira Knightley as Elizabeth Swann, Jonathan Pryce as Governor Weatherby Swann, Jack Davenport as admiral-turned-pirate James Norrington, Naomie Harris as voodoo queen Tia Dalma, Geoffrey Rush as Captain Barbossa (who turned up unexpectedly at the very end of Dead Man’s Chest), Stellan Skarsgard as Will’s undead father “Bootstrap” Bill Turner and , of course, Depp as the shifty, vain and eccentric Captain Jack Sparrow.

The bad guys include squid-faced Davy Jones (Bill Nighy), now employed by Lord Cutler Beckett (Tom Hollander), who’s out to gain a monopoly on the entire planet on behalf of the East India Trading Company. Joining them in their evil endeavor this go-round is Crouching Tiger-Hidden Dragon’s Yun-Fat as pirate captain Sao Feng.

“Each character has an agenda,” says Bruckheimer. “Jack doesn’t want to go back to Davy Jones’ Locker. Elizabeth wants to be with Will. And Will wants to save his father. Then you have Lord Beckett, head of the East India Trading Company. Now that he has Davy Jones working for him, Lord Beckett has taken over the seas and is trying to extinguish all pirates. So the pirates have to band together to take on Lord Beckett.”

As for how Sao Feng gets into the act, Bruckheimer will only reveal, “There are pirates from around the world—every country.” He adds that many of the pirates in the movie are, like the East India Trading Company drawn from real life. “We take on history,” he asserts.

When questioned if the dog with the keys—taken directly from the Disneyland ride—makes another appearance after turning up in Dead Man’s Chest, Bruckheimer evasively suggests that people should see the film and find out.

It wouldn’t be a Pirates movie if there weren’t plenty of battles and amazing action sequences. “There are some conflicts,” Bruckheimer carefully admits. “Certain people are always trying to serve their own agendas, and that doesn’t always work with other people’s agenda’s.”

He’s even reluctant to acknowledge anything about the action scenes or if there’s a sequence equivalent to the show-stopping swordfight atop a rolling water wheel as seen in Dead Man’s Chest. “We have a battle at the end,” Bruckheimer says. “That’s one of the most spectacular things I’ve ever been involved in.”

Pirates fans were surprised when it was announced that Asian star Yun-Fat would be part of At World’s End. “He’s a fan of the first two, he liked the character we created for him and so she signed on,” Bruckheimer explains. “Chow wanted to work with Johnny and the rest of our group—Geoffrey, Keira, Orlando and so on. It certainly intrigues an actor when they get to work with other premier actors. Chow plays a wonderful character in this, and has done an amazing job. I’ll leave it up to the audience [to judge] after they see it.”

Harris’ role is larger in Dead Man’s Chest. “Voodoo has been around a long time,” Bruckheimer notes. “It’s part of New Orleans and the Caribbean, and pirates always inhabited those places. Pirates were colorful characters—the whole period was very colorful—and we’ve used that to create these characters, the whole background and this world they live in.”

Still, the pirates in these films are more like the charming marauders in the Disneyland ride than the real-life rogues who terrorized the high seas. “We draw on their real names; we don’t draw on all their deeds,” Bruckheimer explains.

Swashbuckling Stories

In the 1940s and the early ‘50s, pirate movies were frequently turned out by Hollywood studios (Captain Blood, The Black Swann, The Crimson Pirate, etc.). Since then, they’ve mostly vanished, and later efforts to revive them—such as Swashbuckler, Yellowbeard, Roman Polanski’s Pirates and Cutthroat Island—didn’t exactly burn up the box office. In fact, pirate pictures—like Westerns—were considered a dead genre. But Curse of the Black Pearl and Dead Man’s Chest have altered that perception.

Bruckheimer can’t explain why pirates are back in a big way, just as he doesn’t have any specific answers as to why he has enjoyed such a remarkable string of TV and movie successes. “It always comes down to the story you’re telling,” he says. “And this story, these actors and this director [Gore Verbinski] hit a nerve with audiences. That’s what you try to do.”

He agrees that people’s image and impression of pirates—swarthy guys with eyepatches and peglegs who grumble “Arrgghh!” all the time—comes largely from Robert Newton’s portrayal of the rascally Long John Silver in Disney’s classic version of Treasure Island (1950). Newton played Silver again in a sequel and an Australian-made TV series, and also starred as the titular character in the 1952 film Blackbeard, the Pirate. “Gore is a fan of those films, and looked at every pirate movie ever made before starting on the first Pirates,” Bruckheimer comments.

Screenwriters Ted Elliott and Terry Rossio—who penned all three Pirates—watched a great deal of swashbuckling fare as well, and cite the Richard Lester-directed Musketeers movies as additional influences. “The first Pirates was originated by a couple of other writers who did a screenplay, but it was a much different movie until Ted and Terry got involved,” Bruckheimer says. “They brought in the supernatural element. And they’re great storytellers; that’s their strength. They do brilliant dialogue and fascinating characters. Ted and Terry are students of film and the history of film, so they have lots to draw on when they write something. They do an enormous amount of research, too.”

Bruckheimer has similar praise for Verbinski. “Gore is a very imaginative, bright young man and another great storyteller,” he extols. “You look at his body of work from Mouse Hunt on to the other films he has done, and you can see he has amazing range. [On Curse of the Black Pearl], we were looking for somebody who could not only handle action and tell a wonderful story, but who had a great sense of humor. And Gore has that.”

Like a good seaman, Verbinski keeps a steady hand at the helm, too. “He’s a real general out there,” Bruckheimer states. “Gore has command of the set, and he maintains a very happy set. There’s no anxiety when you’re working with Gore, and he gives the actors lots of room and range to do what they want to do. And still, Gore gets what he feels is appropriate.”

But these Pirates films aren’t one-man shows. “The behind-the-scenes team is fabulous, and [composer] Hans Zimmer has added enormous contributions,” Bruckheimer points out. “Hans isn’t exactly unsung, but he has given us so much. Rich Heinrichs is another one—he has added a tremendous amount to the process with his brilliant production designs.”

Caribbean Cruises

All three Pirates were largely filmed—where else?—in the Caribbean. While this gives the movies an undeniably authentic look and gorgeous sea- and landscapes, it doesn’t make things easier. In fact, Bruckheimer says location lensing was the biggest challenge on the second film. “Just dealing with the weather and the ships—anytime you work on water, you have problems, and that was very difficult to coordinate. We certainly hit some big storms.

“Part of the At World’s End production was done in the Caribbean,” Bruckheimer continues, “so we had the same problems. But for this third one, we didn’t work on the water quite as much.” A large portion was safely shot on the Disney stages in Burbank.

Even as At World’s End heads for release, Bruckheimer is knee-deep in another large scale production, National Treasure: Book of Secrets. The sequel to the 2004 hit reunites director Joe Turteltaub with stars Nicolas Cage, Diane Kruger, Jon Voight and Harvey Keitel; Helen Mirren, fresh off her Oscar win for The Queen, has also joined the cast. “We’re going to keep making these big family movies,” Bruckheimer promises.

The Monstrous Memoirs of a Mighty McFearless—based on the Young Adult book by Ahmet Zappa—falls under that category. The film is being developed as an animated feature, but Bruckheimer cautions, “We’re still working on the screenplay. It’s a long process. These things take a while.”

There are, as always, other future possibilities. As a kid, Bruckheimer was into cowboys as much as pirates. “The first picture I ever made was a Western—The Culpepper Cattle Company. I hope I can make a big-scale Western someday.”

But the Pirates franchise has been something special, almost creating its own subgenre: the action-fantasy-pirate-comedy adventure. “[These films do so well] because of the family aspect,” Bruckheimer says. “And the supernatural parts stretch the imagination. We took a genre that was always [somewhat grounded] in realism, and we put a supernatural twist on it that takes you into a whole other arena.”

However, the filmmakers aren’t ignoring the Disneyland attraction that gave birth to these mega-movies. “We keep mining things from the ride,” Bruckheimer assures. “When people see At World’s End, they’ll notice stuff pulled from the ride. And they’ll say, ‘Ohmigosh’, they got that, too.’”

For those who haven’t watched the first two Pirates yet, Jerry Bruckheimer recommends seeing them before attending this latest installment. “It’s a much better experience if you know the backstory. I would urge people to check out the first two on DVD, and then go see At World’s End.”
 
AWE article in the new Starlog magazine....

He’s even reluctant to acknowledge anything about the action scenes or if there’s a sequence equivalent to the show-stopping swordfight atop a rolling water wheel as seen in Dead Man’s Chest. “We have a battle at the end,” Bruckheimer says. “That’s one of the most spectacular things I’ve ever been involved in.”
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My friend kept bugging me to go with him to see Spiderman 3 so i went. He was certain it would be better then i said. His reaction was that it was ok but not worthy of the boxx office total. My point was before we went we stopped at wal mart and there are at worlds end figurines there. And on the tvs there were playing the pirates 3 trailer. At Walmart. Just thaught i'd mention this.
 
I don't agree with that statment, the correct one is more like, a sign of things to come. It was really pt. 1 of a 2 part movie, or maybe we will come to find out, pt 2 of a 3 pt movie, but Curse stands on its own nicely.

DMC left a lot of threads untied, but to say it is mearly a trailer diminishes what they actually did. The problem with DMC is the fact that there is no one accurate review on the film, even those who gave it a positive review, and reviewed it as pt 1 of a 2 part movie, still have yet to give an accurate review. Once AWE is out, and we can see how the stories, and character's arc's wrap up, then DMC can finally be given its proper grade

Well, a sign of things to come falls in line with my statement. Even though it is the first part of one long movie, it should be able to stand on its own as well. Now, mind you, I really liked the movie so I'm not knocking it, just pointing out that it doesn't hold up to that standard. It reminds me of the Matrix, as that was similar in a way. LOTR did this right, where each film was able to stand on its own as well as continue the story right into the next film. Maybe my statement is a tad harsh, as there are moments that do stand on their own, but it wasn't as cohesive. I think if they would have cut the whole cannibal island sequence and had a tighter edit of the rest of the film, it would have stood on its own better.

Either way, one cannot deny the fun and adventure the film provides, I'm just trying to say that it could have been edited better.
 
My friend kept bugging me to go with him to see Spiderman 3 so i went. He was certain it would be better then i said. His reaction was that it was ok but not worthy of the boxx office total. My point was before we went we stopped at wal mart and there are at worlds end figurines there. And on the tvs there were playing the pirates 3 trailer. At Walmart. Just thaught i'd mention this.

Sweet.
 
Well, a sign of things to come falls in line with my statement. Even though it is the first part of one long movie, it should be able to stand on its own as well. Now, mind you, I really liked the movie so I'm not knocking it, just pointing out that it doesn't hold up to that standard. It reminds me of the Matrix, as that was similar in a way. LOTR did this right, where each film was able to stand on its own as well as continue the story right into the next film. Maybe my statement is a tad harsh, as there are moments that do stand on their own, but it wasn't as cohesive. I think if they would have cut the whole cannibal island sequence and had a tighter edit of the rest of the film, it would have stood on its own better.

Either way, one cannot deny the fun and adventure the film provides, I'm just trying to say that it could have been edited better.

The difference with LOTR is they are three seperate books, and three seperate stories that cumulate to one, where as this is just one story, like if tolkien had wanted to make it one story, he would have just wrote one book, but instead he has 3 different stories that cumulate to one mega story, where as DMC+AWE is one story, and you can't just make a 5 hour movie, like you can make a long book

but the way I see DMC is, if you wanna break it down to what is the main plot of DMC as in, DMC is one movie, but yeah it has threads for a franchise to be built off of. The plot of DMC is Jack trying to best the devil, trying to get out of his deal with Jones, and what is Davy Jones last line in the movie? "Our debt is settled" I see that as the main, completed story of Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest, and the rest is all threads for the trilogy to be built off of
 
The final effects shot's we're added today, the film is officially complete.

Yeah can't wait to see it!

Total Film is a Pirates cover got it today, good interviews inside as well.

And the london premier is 21st May, hows going as well?
 
Yeah can't wait to see it!

Total Film is a Pirates cover got it today, good interviews inside as well.

And the london premier is 21st May, hows going as well?

I'm going, I can't wait! I'm going as a pirate, of course! lol
 
Pirates World's End: Johnny Depp's Farewell?
Johnny Depp, Orlando Bloom, Keira Knightley, and Geoffrey Rush reunite in "Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End," a new epic in the blockbuster series chronicling the adventures of Captain Jack Sparrow, Captain Barbossa, Will Turner, and Elizabeth Swann.

This time around, the quartet is joined by international superstar Chow Yun-Fat as Captain Sao Feng, the pirate lord of Singapore.

Since the first movie, all the actors have gained stature, popularity, and Oscar nominations too. Johnny Depp is now a two time-Oscar nominee, for the first "Pirate" in 2003, as well as for "Finding Neverland," in which he played "Peter Pan" creator J. M. Barrie.

As Will Turner, British heartthrob Orlando Bloom, has since appeared in the last segment of "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King," which swept the 2003 Oscars, and "Kingdom of Heaven." Young and beautiful Keira Knightley, who returns to the second installment in the role of Elizabeth Swann, was nominated last year for the Best Actress Oscar in "Pride & Prejudice."

But the series belong to the multi-gifted Depp, as the decidedly eccentric Captain Jack Sparrow, caught up in another tangled web of supernatural intrigues. With the Pirates movies, Depp has instantaneously created an authentic screen icon, embraced by the entire world. Depp, as is know by now, in one of the world's most popular and acclaimed actors, with a hugely versatile range of performances marking his outstanding career.

Captain Jack Sparrow is the only truly iconic screen character to have yet come out of this new millennium. It's a wholly original and thrillingly eccentric creation, conjured by the famous shape-shifter Depp, as the ducking, weaving, highly superstitious pirate captain of dubious morality and personal hygiene. Depp has become the screen anti-hero for a new century of moviegoers.

While most of the actors undergo some changes, Johnny Depp's Captain Jack does not. Director Gore Verbinski and Depp both agreed early on that he has to be exactly who he is, without changes. Even so, knowing what an original actor Depp is, prepare yourselves for some big surprises, including the appearance of Keith Richards, Depp's friend, in a major role.

Casting Keith Richards

One of the burning questions was, who would be chosen as Captain Teague, Keeper of the Code, the "Pirata Codex," to which even the most dastardly scalawag must religiously adhere, at the peril of his own body and soul.

The casting was pre-ordained. For nearly a year, rumors flew hither and yon that it would be none other than Keith Richards, legendary guitarist of the Rolling Stones, and a close mate of Johnny Depp. Depp had modeled some of Captain Jack Sparrow's style and characteristics on his great and good friend. And the rumors, for a change, were true.

Says Richards: "It's about freedom, baby. Open the cage, let the tigers out. Somebody's gotta do the naughty work. It's not so much about destroying the establishment. It's to prevent them from destroying you."

Richards was understandably wary at first of accepting the role of Captain Teague, noting: "When I first heard about it, I was thinking, 'Oh my God, this is an Elvis Presley thing. You pop in and thing. But when I saw how it fit into the whole scenario, then it felt quite natural to do it. And they've also made me a lovely guitar."

Pirates as Rock Stars

Depp: "The sort of connection I made when first thinking about Captain Jack was that idea that pirates were the rock and roll stars of that era. Their myths or legends would arrive months before they would ever make port, much like rock stars."

Strumming the Guitar

Strumming the guitar—especially designed and built for him by the legendary instrument maker Danny Farington at the request of popmaster Kris peck—and wielding a mean flintlock pistol, Richards took the company, and the days on which he filmed, by hurricane force.

Depp recalls: "It was kind of a long shot to even think about getting Keith to do this. The fact that he agreed was above and beyond a dream come true. Experiencing his arrival on set was unbelievable. Every single person on the crew, including people you hadn't seen in months, suddenly showed up. It was a beautiful, perfect symmetry."

Captains Jack and Teague

Depp: There was a unique connection between Captains Jack and Teague. You get the feeling that there was a real tough love relationship there. Teague is one of those pirates who would give you a hug one minute, and blow you away the next. Or maybe he'll blow you away and then give you a hug. You don't know what to expect from him."

Torrential Hurricane

Depp recalls: "The Maelstrom is like the biblical whirlpool from hell, and we're shooting it the way Cecil B. DeMille probably would have. We were running away from hurricanes in the Bahamas, shooting in Dominica during the rainy season in a rain forest, and then we went to the desert, in Palmdale, filming in a torrential downpour and about 75 knots of wind inside of a massive facility on a ship tilted to a 15 percent rake on the gimbal.

"Once again, this is another one of those situations where it's so weird that you just don't question it anymore. 'Johnny, we're going drive you an hour and a half up to the desert, you're going to climb aboard the Black Pearl and Flying Dutchman built on gigantic rigs, and we're going to drench you in high winds while you swordfight at a steep angle.' And you just kind of go, 'Okay, fine. No Problem.'"

Will there be Pirates 4

Depp: There's a lot more territory I would love to explore as Captain Jack. I would definitely consider doing another one if all the ingredients are there, like director Gore Verbinski and writer Terry Rossio.

Approach to Acting

Depp: Whether I work from the outside in or inside out depend on the film, on the texture, and sometimes on a particular scene and the substance of the moment, where I want to be. I could also be going from exterior to interior and vice versa within the same scene. I do a little of everything. It's really a mixed bag, like a stew that's made of leftovers.

Inspiration and Starting Point

Depp: Captain Jack was born out of a couple of inspirations, out of the idea but not imitation of Keith Richards and the myth of rock n/ roll, combined with cartoon characters that I really have loved over the years and also experienced by watching with my kiddies—just being a daddy. He was also born out of spending time on the sea, rough sea, where you can't get your balance, and intense heat. I closed myself off in a sauna for a long period to see what effect the heat would have on me. It was most helpful for the way that Captain Jack moves.
Reel Impact

What I set out to do was to try and make Captain Jack appeal to little kids as well as the most hardened adult intellectuals. Perplexed by the success and impact of the first Pirates movie, Depp says: "It is beyond me how such a character has sort of taken root in some people's heart. It's still shocking to me.

Last Day of Shooting

On the last two days of the combined "Dead Man's Chest and "At World's End" shoot, the usual raucous and explosively noisy atmosphere of filming inside the "Site 9" hangar gave way to a hushed, almost cathedral-like mood. Only Johnny Depp was working on those days. The hundreds of extras and stunt players that usually populate the set were taking a day of rest. It was remarkably peaceful and quiet.

On both days, members of the crew had almost confused looks on their faces, as the realization dawned that incredibly, the impending departure of Depp proferred some kind of proof that filming was, incredibly, drawing to an inexorable finale.

"It's not a gig, it's a lifestyle," was a refrain often heard amidst the company. You wake up, you get dressed, you go pirating for 12 to 14 hours a day, and you just keep doing it week after week, month after month, and, for that matter, year after year.

Depp Free to Go

Though Depp completed his last scene at about noon, he was put into a holding pattern until director Verbinski learned whether or not some footage sot the day before has made it cleanly from the camera to the processing in the lab. Six hours later, the word came in that all looked fine. Which meant Johnny Depp was free to leave.

Captain Jack Makes Me Smile

But four years, one month and 8 days after "The Curse of the Black Pearl" first commenced shooting, Depp was not quite sure that he wanted to leave the set. Says Depp: "The possibility of saying goodbye to Captain Jack perhaps forever is one I look forward to. But if that is the case, we had a good run. I know Captain Jack will always make me smile

Intense Pure Joy

Depp: "The Pirates movies have done a lot for me, and in every way you can imagine. But most importantly, what I've felt is this intense, pure joy. Playing this character and delivering this character will always bring a smile to my face, always make me happy and proud."

Farewell Pastry Party

In the hangar, a large pastry, which looked for all the world like the birthday cake for a little boy who's crazy about pirates, replete with toy figures and little ships, was positioned next to the shooting set. It read: Dearest Captain Jack, May Your Compass Always Lead You Back to Us. Thank You."

The group exploded into cheers and applause at Depp's appearance in the hangar. Depp then told his friends and comrades: "I'll be incredibly brief, because I may weep. You guys have made this the most amazing experience in my life, except for having my kids. I'd go to war with any of you."

Hiatus: Can't Say Goodbye

Depp: I'm going to call this a break, or a hiatus, or something…. It's happened to us before, hasn't it? But I don't feel like I can say goodbye, certainly not to to any of you, and not to Captain Jack either. Thanks for the ride."

Thank you, Johnny Depp, for bringing pirates back to Hollywood in a big, personal way!
 
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