The Official PS4 Thread

[Benstamania]

His edit:

Also the word "Sacrifices" is being blown out of proportion. There are sacrifices made when making a console version of a game as compared to a PC game or when making an XB1 game as compared to a PS4 game. Don't expect PS4 games to all of a sudden become **** just expect them to run better on PS4K. I would expect a game that is really pushing the graphics envelope to run at 1080p 60fps on PS4K while the same game might run at 900p 60/30fps on PS4. Just the way I took it.

His original post.:

It was stated plainly and with no room for interpretation that there are developers that already have development kits for the PS4K and that they are making games that will directly target and take advantage of the higher specs of the PS4K. It was also stated that these games will in fact work for the PS4 but with considerable sacrifices made to performance. ]

It seems to me like his edit is a damage control spin. You can't tell people "Considerable sacrifices" and the say people are blowing it up and it won't be anything major. Those are two completely different things.

 

[Iceman]

I think Benstamania is on there too.

Lol cute cat. I want it.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

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His original post.:



It seems to me like his edit is a damage control spin. You can't tell people "Considerable sacrifices" and the say people are blowing it up and it won't be anything major. Those are two completely different things.

yeah that's exactly what i was saying. it's damage control.

eff this.

 

[Dave McFly]

picked up Life is Strange interesting game liking it so far the reverse time thing is cool (I like how you can use something you learned the first time around after you to the rewind thing).

 

[Benstamania]

I think Benstamania is on there too.

Lol cute cat. I want it.

Haha. No I don't post at Gaf. I just lurk.

 

[Tron Bonne]

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His original post.:



It seems to me like his edit is a damage control spin. You can't tell people "Considerable sacrifices" and the say people are blowing it up and it won't be anything major. Those are two completely different things.

Why would he be damaging control something he has no involvement with lol. Unless he's some type of stealth Sony PR man that doesn't even make sense.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Why would he be damaging control something he has no involvement with lol. Unless he's some type of stealth Sony PR man that doesn't even make sense.

he's the one who's delivering the information so he's bearing the responsibility of the news.

 

[Tron Bonne]

he's the one who's delivering the information so he's bearing the responsibility of the news.

Unless he's directly associated with Sony, there's no reason to "damage control" anything. Hell, even if he is, he's giving this information anonymously. So, there's no reason for he to spin anything good or bad.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Unless he's directly associated with Sony, there's no reason to "damage control" anything. Hell, even if he is, he's giving this information anonymously. So, there's no reason for he to spin anything good or bad.

if that's the case why did he take it upon himself to do, what essentially was, damage control?

 

[Tron Bonne]

Because it's not damage control. That's...what I was getting at,

 

[X Knight]

PS4 3.5 Update out tomorrow, 4/6/16!!

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/04/05/playstation-3-50-system-software-update-out-tomorrow/

Main features include:

1. Remote Play to PC AND Mac

2. Ability to appear offline

3. Notification when friends appears online ( finally!! )

Sadly, still no custom backgrounds.

 

[Iceman]

Haha. No I don't post at Gaf. I just lurk.

Oh right.

His edit:



His original post.:



It seems to me like his edit is a damage control spin. You can't tell people "Considerable sacrifices" and the say people are blowing it up and it won't be anything major. Those are two completely different things.

Is the guy leaking it a pro-Sony guy? I don't really get the motivation of these leakers as it seems all they're getting is internet-cred on Neogaf at the cost of undermining Sony and potentially their own career if somehow found out. And if the intention was to make Sony look good I don't know how they would accidentally use the term 'considerable sacrifices'.

It's like if you killed someone last night you wouldn't mention anything to do with killing or your activities last night whereas if you didn't kill anyone there is a chance you might make a joke about the subject. So if he was trying to make it look good why mention any thing at all that could be negatively construed (and in a place like that always 100 times more negatively than intended!). No need to mention sacrifices, just talk about the positives of the PS4K. Anyways I guess it's difficult to know for sure and is being interpreted in different ways by different people. I'm not reading it any more so I'll let you guys keep me up to date on whatever comes of it.

 

[Iceman]

Why would he be damaging control something he has no involvement with lol. Unless he's some type of stealth Sony PR man that doesn't even make sense.

This is what confused me about a lot of the reactions there. If he's leaking stuff that Sony would probably want to reveal at their own pace and special events, and leaving unnecessary negative words in like 'considerable sacrifices', he's likely not really a 100% pro Sony guy and has no particular need to damage control.

 

[Benstamania]

A LOT of leakers, especially certified guys on Gaf work for Sony OR MS. Sometimes they get fed false info so Sony/MS can find them and fire them.. But sometimes theyre all legit.. More so the Bisch certified ones.

So yes. The guy 9 times out of 10 works for Sony.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

PS4 3.5 Update out tomorrow, 4/6/16!!

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/04/05/playstation-3-50-system-software-update-out-tomorrow/

Main features include:

1. Remote Play to PC AND Mac

2. Ability to appear offline

3. Notification when friends appears online ( finally!! )

Sadly, still no custom backgrounds.

remote play sounds dope doe

 

[Iceman]

I know that lol. Much harder to leak anything if you are outside the companies in question.

But as a leaker there's no reason to damage control. They've already taken all the risks that might make the company look bad (or good) just by leaking (which is not something they HAVE to do, except to look cool to some guys on the internet) and having info out there in an uncontrolled manner being commented on and analysed before it's probably even finalised. And the 'slip' in question doesn't make sense. He's either just putting out info neutrally or he has a bias. If he has a pro-Sony bias there's no way he would accidentally have put in that term in the first place. 'Look at all this cool new stuff, by the way the power pack is just terrible. Wait wait I didn't mean terrible, it's fine really. (note to self, next time I leak I won't say anything is terrible when I'm saying everything is cool)'. If he has a neutral or worse view then he wouldn't care.

Not that I care myself, I'm all for the PS4K and have no stake in the old PS4. Just thought this was being misread but like I said everyone seems to be interpreting it differently (which is fine).

 

[Rodrigo90]

I was one of the beta testers for the update. I think you'll like it

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Because it's not damage control. That's...what I was getting at,

what word/term would you use to describe what he's doing then? "damage control" best fits the scenario in my opinion

 

[Iceman]

what word/term would you use to describe what he's doing then? "damage control" best fits the scenario in my opinion

Clarification of misinterpretation.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Clarification of misinterpretation.

the misinterpretation caused a huge stir among those who read it and interpreted and I think the OP knew that.

 

[Iceman]

the misinterpretation caused a huge stir among those who read it and interpreted and I think the OP knew that.

Every other article causes a ridiculous uproar on Neogaf, often with people misinterpreting innocent statements without considering motivation. When MS/Sony execs make official statements that's one thing and it makes sense to scrutinise every term. This is a Sony leaker, who can say his opinion freely, no need to say a negative word in the first place if he wants to spin positively. And if he doesn't want to spin positively then no need to clarify afterwards. People explode first and finish reading and thinking about the issue after in that place. It has always been like that.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Every other article causes a ridiculous uproar on Neogaf, often with people misinterpreting innocent statements without considering motivation. When MS/Sony execs make official statements that's one thing and it makes sense to scrutinise every term. This is a Sony leaker, who can say his opinion freely, no need to say a negative word in the first place if he wants to spin positively. And if he doesn't want to spin positively then no need to clarify afterwards. People explode first and finish reading and thinking about the issue after in that place. It has always been like that.

i'm not saying maybe people ain't causing a ridiculous uproar, just that either way what's being done in responses is what i would constitute as damage control. even if it isn't necessary.

 

[Benstamania]

Personally.. I don't think any uproar is ridiculous..

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Personally.. I don't think any uproar is ridiculous..

I guess it depends on the uproar. I didn't think it was a big deal that a white person was black a black character in Uc4 but that turned into quite an uproar. One could say that was ridiculous.

 

[Benstamania]

Well yeah, I don't mean that. I mean people have a right to be pissed about the PS4K if it does more than 4K media.