The Official Stupid Question Thread: Marvel Edition - Part 4

[Havok83]

Has Apocalypse fought anyone other than the X-Men? Have the Avengers ever had to deal with him our is he not considered a big enough threat for them?

The Avengers showed up to fight him Blood of Apocalypse, which ran in the pages of X-men v2

 

[Varient]

Magic, usually It also depends on the artist. Some will show it heading straight back to him and others have it do a big 360 loop when he throws it.

Kang once sent it into another dimension and it still returned. I suppose it might simply follow the path of least resistance. If it is on a curved arc it stays on one if it was traveling straight it returns by a straight path.

It's a magic possibly sentient weapon. It comes anyway it damn well pleases.

It's probably the most powerful weapon next to the Infinity Gauntlet.....anyone else agree?

My personal fave is Cap's shield. That thing returns to it's owner without the help of magic. It's pure skill, baby!

Thor's hammer is bonded to Thor in an undefined way. As Silicon Surfer pointed out, it returns even if it's in another dimension. Most recently, Thor died with Mjolnir in Asgard, Don Blake popped back into existence, and Mjolnir tore through dimensional barriers to land on Earth near Blake.

Causing Doom to break out of Hell to try and find it.

thank you?

Well I would now buy a story where the hammer emotes an opinion or does a return that indicates that it has a concern for it's return path.

Based on what feats I've seen,.. Time and distance don't seem to be issues, and depending on the writer, it also ignores inertia as Thor touches it.

................ Yup,.. Magic at the least.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Apocalypse fought Thor in a story set in the past two issues ago in Uncanny Avengers

He also fought some Eternals in an Eternals one-shot somewhere. And he also had a brief fight with Loki in X-Factor 50 I think.

 

[runawayboulder]

I think the Loki/Apocalypse dust up was a brief thing for Acts of Vengeance. Loki was trying to get him to join his group to attack the heroes that weren't his normal adversaries. He wasn't interested and they briefly fought.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Yeah, I remember it was barely a thing. I was pretty disappointed.

 

[Lobo]

The Avengers showed up to fight him Blood of Apocalypse, which ran in the pages of X-men v2

Apocalypse fought Thor in a story set in the past two issues ago in Uncanny Avengers

He also fought some Eternals in an Eternals one-shot somewhere. And he also had a brief fight with Loki in X-Factor 50 I think.

I think the Loki/Apocalypse dust up was a brief thing for Acts of Vengeance. Loki was trying to get him to join his group to attack the heroes that weren't his normal adversaries. He wasn't interested and they briefly fought.

Thanks guys.

New question

How's Falcon as a character? I don't think I've read anything with him other than a random Cap or Avengers issue I have. Is there essential Falcon reading? Who are his rogues?

 

[runawayboulder]

Falcon is a great character. As far as essential reading....? There was an era of Cap vol 1 during the 70's when the book was named Captain America and Falcon. There was also the Cap Quits era when he played an important role. There was also the series called Captain America and Falcon in 2004.

He doesn't really have his own rogues, he pretty much shares the ones Cap has.

 

[Anubis]

Yeah, Falcon's awesome.

 

[Cyclops3235]

Hey Guys,

I really want to start reading more about Wonder Man, and was wondering what some of his great story arcs in Avengers are. Thanks!

 

[runawayboulder]

Wonder Man actually had a solo series in the 90's that went for about 30 issues or so. He was also a founding member of the West Coast Avengers and had some key character moments during the story where the Vision was disassembled. Busiek also made him a major player during his run and re-evaluated the Wonder Man/Scarlet Witch/Vision relationship there.

 

[Xeno-noesis]

Hey everyone.

OK, I just recently became obsessed with Silver Surfer (and the rest of Marvel Cosmic and Fantastic Four). I just started reading volume 1 of the SS Masterworks. So my dumb question is, are there any plans by Marvel to reboot/bring back SS? Any miniseries in the works?

 

[runawayboulder]

There was a mini series by Greg Pak a couple of years ago and it was pretty frigging good. I don't think there's any plans for him but I'm hoping he appears in the upcoming Infinity event.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I think they've actually teased a potential return for the Surfer soon. The teases were enough, by enough people, to assume it's happening.

Also, prior to the mini by Pak, he was in an arc of Mighty Thor that was supposedly really good. I never read it, though.

 

[Panthro]

Has Iceman had an obligatory "Death of..." story yet?

 

[runawayboulder]

I think they've actually teased a potential return for the Surfer soon. The teases were enough, by enough people, to assume it's happening.

Also, prior to the mini by Pak, he was in an arc of Mighty Thor that was supposedly really good. I never read it, though.

I think the mini actually came before the Thor arc. The mini laid the groundwork for why he was back with Galactus.

Has Iceman had an obligatory "Death of..." story yet?

No, but he was (temporarily) depowered during M-Day which was a sentence just as bad as death.

 

[Specter313]

Iceman's also got a story arc starting this Wednesday in Astonishing X-Men, dealing with the fallout from X-Termination where he was infected with part of a death seed by Dark Beast and fears he's losing control of himself and turning evil.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I think the mini actually came before the Thor arc. The mini laid the groundwork for why he was back with Galactus.

Was it the mini? I thought he went back to being Galactus' herald all the way back in his Annihilation mini. As I recall, the Pak mini was more about him learning to deal with mortality as he lost his powers and got stuck on Earth again, or something like that.

As for the Thor thing, the first arc of Matt Fraction's The Mighty Thor features Galactus coming to Earth to claim this power source the Norse gods recently found as his own. The gods are like, "Pffff, yeah right!" and go to war with him. It's sort of a throwback to the old-school Lee/Kirby Thor comics, where cosmic threats like Galactus and Ego were as much part of Thor's world as the mythological stuff. Over the course of the story, Thor fights the Silver Surfer and Odin fights Galactus, both one-on-one. It's as awesome as it sounds and, to this day, stands as pretty much the only good thing to come out of Fraction's Thor run.

 

[runawayboulder]

I could have sworn the mini ended with him making a plea to Galactus to get his powers back to save that girl and in turn he lost all memories of his humanity. It's been a while since I read it...

 

[Havok83]

Iceman's also got a story arc starting this Wednesday in Astonishing X-Men, dealing with the fallout from X-Termination where he was infected with part of a death seed by Dark Beast and fears he's losing control of himself and turning evil.

Wow, I feel so out of the loop with the X-world. The only books Ive read this year are the two Bendis ones and even those Ive fallen behind on

 

[sdc10]

Ok so Im gonna pick up the Avengers vs Xmen collected edition and the consequences epilogue. What Im wondering is, for anyone who read them, is it worth getting any of the tie-in books? The one thing I hate about events is the amount of tie-ins and the feeling that if i dont read them ill be missing out on something.

 

[javi1024]

Ok so Im gonna pick up the Avengers vs Xmen collected edition and the consequences epilogue. What Im wondering is, for anyone who read them, is it worth getting any of the tie-in books? The one thing I hate about events is the amount of tie-ins and the feeling that if i dont read them ill be missing out on something.

I didn't read any of the Avengers stuff but the Uncanny X-Men and Wolverine and the X-Men tie-ins are worth reading. They have the character stuff that was sorely missing from the main story.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Eh, none of the tie-ins were all that important, really. The Avengers Academy one was okay because it saw the AvX thing play out among the Avengers' and X-Men's respective schools, with the staff of each school working together--even though their comrades were fighting each other--to show the kids that they shouldn't fight. Secret Avengers featured a "cosmic" team of Avengers trying to stop the Phoenix from even reaching Earth (hint: they don't do so well). New Avengers had kind of another part of that same story where Noh-Varr randomly betrays the Avengers because of Kree mind control and yet another kinda/sorta Mar-Vell resurrection (those are really becoming old hat).

The Avengers Academy one is the only story that's actually pretty good on its own merits, but then most of the schools' staff members go off to fight in AvX anyway, so it's sort of rendered irrelevant.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Yeah, while I enjoyed some of the tie-ins, none are necessary to the story. AvX stands on its own very well.

That said, probably the most essential (and barely that) were the Iron Fist issues of New Avengers (3 issues) and the Illuminati issue of Avengers. Also, Consequences picks up on some of the threads from the Uncanny X-Men tie-ins featuring Sinister (4 issues I believe).

So that's about it but nothing really too important. You can skip all that if you want.

 

[runawayboulder]

I wouldn't use the word "well" at any point in describing AvX. You don't need tie-ins to read the main event. I suggest skipping it all together and reading it's Wikipedia entry if you want to know what happened. If you're simply too curious and you have to see what went down, then go for it.....but you have been warned.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Well, yeah, I agree. The event had good moments but was overall a disappointment for me. But yes, it does stand alone without tie-ins.