The Official Stupid Question Thread: Marvel Edition - Part 4

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"[insert bad guy] we would have words with thee".

"have at thee, fiend!"

 

[LiMoNiTe]

In What comic exactly did Capetian America get frozen? Nobody has given me a straight forward answer. *Side note* How did cable come back to (Earth-616), has it been explained?

 

[LiMoNiTe]

Also is there anymore Rpg forums?

 

[runawayboulder]

In What comic exactly did Capetian America get frozen? Nobody has given me a straight forward answer. *Side note* How did cable come back to (Earth-616), has it been explained?

There was no comic where he was actually frozen. His comics just ended due to low sales back in the 40's. When Stan Lee revived him in Avengers #4, he came up with the story of him being frozen to explain what happened to the character for 20yrs.

Cable came back in the X-Sanction limited series that was a lead in to AvX. Apparently he never dies at the end of second coming, he jumped to the future at the last second. He then returned in X-Sanction after learning of the Avengers/X-Men war in the future.

Also is there anymore Rpg forums?

Yeah, click forum jump towards the top of the page and their the last forums listed on the right.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh snap, the whole Baron Zemo/drone plane thing was a retcon too? I didn't know that. makes sense now that I think about it, though.

 

[Anubis]

You didn't know that?

It was one of the first Retconns of comicdom.

Right along side all the DC comics heroes from the late 30's and 40's being from Earth II.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

No, I thought maybe the last issue of the original Captain America series had Bucky and Cap fighting some Nazi guy and then Lee, at most, retconned in the drone plane ending and Baron Zemo.

 

[Anubis]

Nope.

Never happened.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I have no idea what Zemo/plane thingy you're talking about.

 

[Anubis]

you should be ashamed of your damn self.

 

[runawayboulder]

That's because it wasn't written by Bendis

 

[JewishHobbit]

Probably more to do with the fact that Captain America's pretty low on my list of "I give a crap" characters. I don't know that I've ever even done any research on his history.

And for the record... on a list of favorite writers, I doubt Bendis makes top 5. I just think he gets more flack than is deserved.

 

[Anubis]

That's like not knowing that Superman got rocketed to Earth by his father before the Krypton blew up.

It's comic nerd knowledge 101.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

I am not sure but I think that the original Captain America comics continued into the '50's.

 

[Anubis]

Yeah, and then it was later Retconned that the Cap in the 50's was two other people. One of which became one of Caps coolest villains.

 

[JewishHobbit]

That's like not knowing that Superman got rocketed to Earth by his father before the Krypton blew up.

It's comic nerd knowledge 101.

Not really. Superman getting rocketed to Earth by his father before Krypton blew up has been shown in movies and television fairly consistently for decades. People who don't read comics know that. Heck, I knew that when I was a kid without having ever touch a comic, let alone a DC comic.

People outside of comics barely knew who Captain America was prior to his movie coming out, and I guarantee you most of them don't know who Zemo is. And in comics outside of Captain America, it's never talked about. You know what is talked about often? The fact that he was frozen and recovered in a chunk of ice and joined the Avengers. No one ever talks about how he got there. I honestly don't know how he got there. In my 22 years of reading comics religiously, I've never once read a single comic that mentions HOW Cap got frozen. If you don't read Captain America, it's apparently a non-important issue. To be honest, up until a few years ago, I've never seen an on-panel reference to how Bucky died either. He just did.

 

[Lord]

Before i even touched comics i did know Captain America, and i'm not from the USA either, i knew him and Red Skull, not anything else from him though. As for Superman i didn't care for the character or ever read or watched anything with him when i was a kid, yet i knew most of the basis of the character, his origin, Lois Lane, Lex Luthor and Clark Kent.

 

[runawayboulder]

Cap and Bucky's story has been referenced numerous times outside of Captain America comics.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I'm sure it has, but not in anything I've read. From the Spider-Man and X-Men to New Warriors, Iron Fist, New Avengers, Proctor era Avengers, Night Thrasher, Nova, Annihilation era cosmic books, 90s Ghost Rider, etc. I've read all or large portions of these and a lot of other stuff besides, and never any real mention of Cap prior to being found. It's possible that I might have passed it at some point before I cared anything about Captain America, but in the decade or more since I've actually paid attention to that sort of thing, nothing that I can recall.

 

[runawayboulder]

You've pretty much named books that Cap has nothing to do with with the exception of the Bob Harras Proctor era of Avengers and that's because Cap wasn't involved in it for 90% of the run.

 

[Anubis]

So basically, he hates America.

 

[Varient]

Pardon,.. But is it true that the upcoming shield TV series is going to have Cage, Rand and Knight in it? That would be an excellent reason to get cable.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Just rumors at this point. A lot of people thought J. August Richards' character might be Luke Cage (because he's black and people have no imagination), but I believe they've definitively said he's not since then.

 

[Varient]

Just rumors at this point. A lot of people thought J. August Richards' character might be Luke Cage (because he's black and people have no imagination), but I believe they've definitively said he's not since then.

Shucks and thank you, (holding off on getting cable.)

 

[Varient]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3T-evQZiQo&feature=player_embedded
well,.. it's a cage feat,.. but,.... you rally can't say,..